View Full Version : Is using L1 & R1 as airbreaks eaiser or harder to use?
KronicReaper
13th March 2014, 06:52 PM
I don't know what control configuration you people use for the airbreaks on Wipeout HD Fury, but I don't know what is easier the default setting (L2-R2) or the original airbreak settings (L1-R1) from the old wipeout games?
idloveacupoft
13th March 2014, 07:48 PM
For me, it is far easier usig L1 and R1 :) The default just doesnt do it for me and i used them for quite a few hours!
scarfrogers
13th March 2014, 07:56 PM
L1 R1 everytime scĂ*aaaaaar sez
Snakenator1
13th March 2014, 07:59 PM
L2 R2 for me, I find L1 R1 apply to much pressure on the airbrakes for me. The triggers let me apply a set amount of pressure so I don't lose as much speed in the corners.
Mietepiet
13th March 2014, 09:10 PM
played for years on l2r2, resulting in sore indexfinger. changing to l1r1 took less than an hour getting used to. and now i'm a happy camper!
kleidoscopik_1er
13th March 2014, 10:31 PM
@snakenator: Yeah better pressure control for airbreaks with L2/R2, which i think is really important.
But i think using L2/R2 is a little "harder". You can fail a sideshift more easily than with L1/R1.
But it's just a metter of getting use to it i guess, even if you will fail a little more with it. And i don't like using L2 or R2 to reset a lap, i don't find it intuitive.
I tred 2 times to play with L1/R1 but without success, i'm too used to L2/R2. And i feel that using L2/R2 gives me a way better position for my left thumb and so barrel rolling, using d-pad, which is my case.
(L1/R1 gives a more comfortable fingers position for those who use joysticks, i think. Correct me if i'm wrong)
So L2/R2 for me, definitly.
yeldar2097
13th March 2014, 10:52 PM
Small hands and carpal tunnel, so L1 R1 :)
marcingru
13th March 2014, 11:12 PM
Definitely L1/R1 and d-pad, mandatory :)
@Kieldoskopik_1er : need to try this L2/R2 with d-pad , coz i have problem to SS left and br , other way is much better , that can be "life savior" ;)
Mietepiet
14th March 2014, 06:31 AM
I think everybody has trouble with the left SS br. Since you have to do all command with 1 hand, it's just a harder trick to pull off.
blackwiggle
14th March 2014, 02:30 PM
I use L1R1 like most of the really old WO pilots around here that started playing WO when there was NO L2R2 on a PS controller.
The thing is, although it is easier to use L1R1, those controls are digital, and as such, the finesse available in braking is less than the Analog L2R2.
If only it was possible to switch Analog braking to the L1R1 buttons .... Dreaming !
Mitchemous
14th March 2014, 02:51 PM
I prefer L1 & R1 simply because my fingers will slip off of R2 & L2 from time to time, and that makes me sad
Ragsus Maxima
14th March 2014, 04:43 PM
I use the L/R2 buttons for airbraking. The "best" setup depends on each person.
In my case, I use the L/R2 buttons because they help me to adjust accurately the power of the airbrakes. I pilot with the AG-Systems craft, which you may know, it has a high handling value, so applying too much energy to the airbrakes will often backfire.
This is where the "triggers" come in. With their help, I can control and adjust how much braking I want to apply at any circumstances.
This works wonders for me, but as I said before, each person is a whole world. Try both setups and see which one feels right for you. :)
stin
14th March 2014, 05:14 PM
I'm old school, l am that used to ps1 controller to ps3 controller but tried everything but back to where l was.
Oh well :)
stevie :)
terra-wrists
16th March 2014, 08:21 PM
i've never tried the L1 R1 airbrakes on HD Fury... starting to wonder what all the hype is about. Must admit, I'm tempted to see if it will improve my game - and if so, what that could mean in future for my wipeout friends :D
Dunno, papa always said "if it aint broke, don't try n fix it", with that in mind, and heart - maybe I won't.
I'm conflicted lol.
idloveacupoft
16th March 2014, 09:06 PM
^ lol
Thats how i feel about d-pad/analogue. Im conflicted but stick with analogue, even though pitching can be tough sometimes with the log.
As i said, i prefer L/R1 but that just makes sideshifting easier. L/R2 i would imagine is better for control the power of the brakes.
DrMannevond
24th March 2014, 12:22 AM
I use L2/R2. It gives me more control, and it's a god-send in the Icaras at Phantom speeds. It allows me to vary the pressure through the turns, making it easier to line up my "exit". They're also great for making tiny course corrections without touching the d-pad.
As for BR's with a left SS: Not an expert, but it sounds fairly easy in my head. SS while steering right, and then just a quick left-right to complete the BR. But it's probably all in my head.:D
terra-wrists
30th March 2014, 12:58 AM
something like that, yes. More, "nose up" (timing required) "side shift to stay in air that moment longer and BR" then work on your landing :)
(well, that's how it is on venom and flash anyway... like you, I also use dpad) :)
superjeepboy
6th April 2014, 05:29 AM
L2R2. Its because bigger hands are better, also sideshift would be easier with the PS2 and PS controllers, so thats good, but PS3 controller you can mess up with.
ThoughtfulSystem_95
6th June 2014, 03:31 PM
L1-R1. Just like Hellfire said in the beginners tutorial, it is easier to sideshift with the two smaller buttons.
XBARNSTERX
7th June 2014, 12:55 PM
L2, R2 for me. Only thing i change in games really is look inversion. Down is up for me. Thats down to using pitch control in wipeout. Alls I've changed is acceleration, airbrake and motion pitch sensitivity. Left shift barrels are my least favourite too. Should be easy with the motion pitch but using the analog for me means a slower input for barrels...which makes them a bit hit or miss. As for sideshifting I have no problem with them after the first tap you dont have to fully release the trigger, so another quick tap is all that's needed.
mannjon
24th July 2014, 12:28 AM
There are a few factors to consider here: as already stated, if L1, R1 makes for easier sideshifts, then on Venom and Flash, stick with L1, R1 because you really won't brake much on those speeds. Likewise since airbraking is more common on higher speeds, then the ability to "feel out" the turn by using the digital L2, R2 provides optimal lines.
I personally got used to L2, R2, and I use that for every event. For me, it isn't bad sideshifting with them, and the ability to control airbrakes really helps when flying Icaras, which I always do, if I came to a full stop on each airbrake using L1 & R1, I would lose out to Feisars, Harimau, and AG systems on tighter turns.
What this really all boils down to is what you are used to. But I personally think that L2 R2 has a slight advantage overall.
Snakenator1
24th July 2014, 10:23 AM
My hands are simply to big to use L1 R1, my hands just sit on the controller more comfortably using L2 R2. But I to also prefer the analog nature of the two triggers especially since I fly Feisar, press airbrake slightly once and I'm threw a tight corner on phantom :)
MyNameIsBom
24th July 2014, 10:58 PM
I started playing WipEout on the PSP so I was naturally adjusted towards using L1 and R1 as airbrakes. I did, however, try and use L2 and R2; I found them to be accurate and precise with the amount of feedback you get from the airbrakes. I have the tendency to sideshift a lot, so using L2 and R2 doesn't really benefit me in that area, so I end up with using L1 and R1 instead. My airbreakes' sensitivity is set at approx. 60% ~ 80% so that I can have similar, if not the same, precise control you can get from L2 and R2.
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