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Tomahawk
16th November 2011, 09:08 PM
All participants in this challenge please enter your times only here, in this thread.

Here's the rules for our challenge:

1) The rules which apply for our records tables will be applying for this challenge as well. This means:
- All Single Race times must be attained racing against the maximum number of opponents with weapons activated.
- No cheat codes should be active while attaining any record. (For this challenge you may use the codes to unlock all tracks and all ships if you don't already have access to them, but no other codes my be used!)
- Times must be set on an unmodified console which is the same region as the copy of the game. (e.g. PAL PS2 and PAL game disc.) This means that you are allowed to use your PS2 or PS3 to play the PS1 version of WipEout 3SE and take part in this challenge.
- Lap and Race records must be set with clean laps and races – times from races which you have been eliminated from are invalid. For this challenge it is allowed to enter a time from a race in which you have been respawned (the wuss wagon took you back onto the track).

2) Only ships with a speed class of 3 or lower (Feisar, Goteki, Pirhana, Auricom, Assegai) will be allowed for the challenge – so no Icaras, no Qirex and no AG-Systems!
It is allowed to switch ships in between the races. For example you can enter your time for Porto Kora with Pirhana and your time for Manor Top with Assegai.

3) Only times from the following tracks will be counted in the final results:
- Porto Kora
- P-Mar Project
- Manor Top
- Terminal
You may show us your times from other tracks (if you do some Stanza Inter for warm up for example :)) if you want, but they won't be counted in the final results!

4) The challenge will be open from 16th of november until the 15th of december. Within this time period everybody is welcome to enter his times for any of the tracks, even if he/she did not take part in the voting. Any times submitted after the 15th of december, 12pm gmt+1 (german timezone) will not be considered for the final results.
The times should be entered like this (use the following lines as a template if you want):

track name: XXXXXXXXXX
Lap 1: XX.XX.XX
Lap 2: XX.XX.XX
Lap 3: XX.XX.XX
Lap 4: XX.XX.XX
Lap 5: XX.XX.XX
race time: XX.XX.XX

For the final results we will count the best race time entered by the contestants and the best lap time from that particular best race time. It is not allowed to enter a best lap time from another race. Only the best lap time from your fastest race time will be counted.
In the end we are going to sum up all 4 best race times and best lap times from those races to get an overall time (meaning: race time 1 + lap time 1 + race time 2 + lap time 2 + race time 3 + lap time 3 + race time 4 + lap time 4 = overall time). The contestant with the lowest overall time wins the challenge.

5) It is allowed to use any form of Joypad, Joystick, Steering Wheel or whatsoever for this challenge as long as you do not use a turbo controller (a controller where the buttons can be set to automatically press themselves rapidly, or has a secondary set of buttons that submit rapid inputs when held). It is also not allowed to use any controller which allows you to programm any specific button pressing sequences into them (like left-right-left for barrel rolls).

6) After the winners have been determined, each one of the podium places 1, 2 and 3 may send me his address and I'll pay for and send them one packet of our famous Nuremberg Lebkuchen which weighs approx. 1.5kg. Of course I'll also pay for any postage and package costs.

7) Fair play! I will not ask for proof of any times like videos or screenshots. I'm going to rely fully on the integrity and honesty of our forum members for this challenge. If anyone can and wants to supply us with some videos to share his racing lines and shortcuts (which I would highly appreciate!) with the other participants you're very welcome to do so!

eight) All possible shortcuts are allowed. Here is a list of many (not all as far as I know) known shortcuts: ->clicky<- (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1232). If anyone knows any more shortcuts for the 4 tracks we are going to race, please do tell us about them so that everyone can use them and all have the same knowledge basis for this challenge.

And now.... LET THE CHALLENGE COMMENCE!

Mad-Ice
17th November 2011, 05:15 PM
Ok first try today! Assegai for all the tracks.

Porto Kora

1.59.08
0.25.04
0.22.40
0.23.60
0.23.76
0.24.28

P-Mar Project

3.49.36
0.47.44
0.44.00
0.41.32
0.52.84
0.43.76

Manor Top

2.20.78
0.31.62
0.28.76p
0.26.76
0.27.54p
0.26.10


Terminal

2.43.40
0.34.60
0.31.12
0.34.08
0.33.76
0.29.84

Temet
17th November 2011, 08:02 PM
Didiou it's hard to play it again !!!!
I played with Wip3out non-se, so maybe it cannot be considered as valid, I let Tomahawk decide :)
It's on a PS1 with original PS1 controller (so only D-Pad).

Track name: Manortop (using Auricom)
Lap 1: 36.00
Lap 2: 31.72
Lap 3: 32.92
Lap 4: 32.40
Lap 5: 32.72
Race time: 2.45.76

I've just been lucky with autopilot, it's not a great run (10" from my 10 years old personal best lol)

See it here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n2OGZu2hRs

stin
17th November 2011, 09:07 PM
I will play tomorrow......:)

Good scores guys!:clap

stevie:brickwall

JABBERJAW
18th November 2011, 12:14 AM
@temet, it has to be 3se because it plays quite different from the original. Pick it up quick though, so you can compete in the tourney!

Tomahawk
18th November 2011, 07:53 AM
@Mad-Ice and Temet
What ships did you guys use? Just being curious if you switched the ships for the different tracks.

@Temet
For the final results I can only consider times set with 3SE, because, as Al has already stated, Wip3out and 3SE are really two different worlds when it comes to the ship's handling and game physics. Also the smallest time margin in Wip3out is 0.04 seconds while in 3SE it's 0.02 seconds. I thought you had already ordered a 3SE / Destruction Derby combo from amazon?

Temet
18th November 2011, 09:08 AM
I edited my post to specify I used Auricom (but you can see it in my vid :p).
I bet Mad-Ice used Assegai :)

Yes I ordered w3ose on Amazon but I didn't receive it yet... and I'm in job travel the two following weeks.
Plus I don't have a savegame for it :'(

Well, I guess for the moment I just play for fun, I'll enter my times stating I'm using w3o edition, I'll enter times with SE when I will have it ;)

Tomahawk
18th November 2011, 10:22 AM
If you don't have a savegame for 3SE then you can use the codes (Phantom / Alltrack / Crafts) to unlock all ships and all tracks. That is allowed for this challenge.

stin
18th November 2011, 01:10 PM
My Scores atm. :)

Manor Top

Piranha

2.31.02

34.06
28.28
28.08
30.88
29.72

Porta Kora

Pirahna

1.55.78

26.06
21.28
22.28
23.32P
22.84

P-Mar Project

Piranha

3.37.28

48.24
41.32
42.88
41.56
43.28

Terminal

Piranha

2.36.76

34.78
31.52
29.44
30.56
30.76

stevie:paperbag

Temet
18th November 2011, 05:46 PM
Well, a couple of years ago, I actually played to wo3se on emulator, getting all gold medals, except last combo challenge because of Icaras on WO1 track.
And I took some screenshots...
I saw this one : click (http://goondy.free.fr/Images/wo3se/wo3se_manortop_assegai_rapier.jpg)
I thought I should try with Assegai. Seriously, I get hit so much with the AI in the first lap that the low shield is a pain in the ass.

There was also this one : click (http://goondy.free.fr/Images/wo3se/wo3se_manortop_goteki45_phantom.jpg)

So I tried with Goteki. Indeed, the high shield helps a lot :)


Track name: Manortop (using Goteki) / Wip3out non-se
Lap 1: 31.82
Lap 2: 34.56
Lap 3: 32.76
Lap 4: 31.80
Lap 5: 32.72
Race time: 2.43.66

Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGAlfKXLPg

Tomahawk
19th November 2011, 08:20 AM
Here's my first try with my NeGcon powered Auricom:

Porto Kora
0:22.88 (P)
0:23.12
0:22.32
0:21.48 (P)
0:23.04
1:52.84

I usually start the race with a turbo start and immediately pull my ship a little bit to the right side of the track and hyperthrust so that I leave 2 or 3 AI ships behind me when I enter the first long right hand bend. After the bend, before the litte chicane I pull up my ship's nose and hyperthrust a little to fly right over the chicane in a straight line and land right before the next right hand bend which leads to the jump. I hyperthurst again at the moment when I leave the jump and pull my ship to the right and it's nose up so that I cut the right hand bend right after the jump and try to land my ship at the beginning of the downhill section leading into the tunnel with it's nose parallel to the track. I then go off at high speed through the tunnel and the two hard right hand bends after it. I then hit my left airbreaks before entering the left hand bend which leads to the track split before the finish line and the pit. If I go on to the finish line without going through the pit I hyperthrust again and pull my nose up and try to cut a little part of the chicane before the finish line. If I enter the pit I usually do not hyperthrust.

Manor Top
0:34.28
0:31.76
0:28.92
0:28.84
0:27.28
2:31.08

Description of my racing line will follow soon, my little girl just woke up and I have to take care of her first now.

stin
19th November 2011, 09:46 AM
:eek..wha...did.....*blubber.....erm...that`s awesome score!:clap:robot <----all my precious skins gone!

Well, I will need to work harder then!:rock

Edit My wife is pushing me harder!!!, cos she wants these precious Nuremberg Lebkuchen!!!!

stevie:redface:

Rennfisch
21st November 2011, 02:51 PM
Here are my first times:

Porto Kora (Feisar):

Lap 1: 0.37.00
Lap 2: 0.38.44
Lap 3: 0.35.20
Lap 4: 0.36.52
Lap 5: 0.32.68
Race time: 2.59.84

Terminal:

possible, but forgot weapons on :redface:; results are coming soon :g

P-Mar Project / Manor Top:

technical knockout -> too much wall-eating :brickwall

hmm.... it seems I have to buy the Lebkuchen by myself to cheer me up for the next try ;).

JABBERJAW
22nd November 2011, 02:21 PM
Porta Kora: piranha

1:38.44
0:20.64
0:19.60
0:19.48
0:19.92
0:18.80

P-Mar Project: Assegai

2:48.60
0:34.40
0:32.92
0:34.08
0:33.84
0:33.36

Manor Top: Assegai

1:58.36
0:25.08
0:23.52
0:23.24
0:23.48
0:23.04

Terminal: Assegai ( faster time with piranha (2:15.52), but lap time is .52 slower)

2:15.76
0:28.12
0:26.20
0:27.00
0:27.04
0:26.72

I might give a few more tries with this. I would like to knock 2-3 more off pmar, in that I found a better way of turboing the jump, and would like to give a shot at the WR on manor top with Assegai ( inferior in SR compared to IcAras). This is a hard challenge, the CPU ships cause lots of trouble when you lap them, and saving a shield most of the time is not always enough to get through.

Just tried manor top again, .10 off, damn nervousness last pit run through

Temet
22nd November 2011, 04:17 PM
Holy sh*t!

It's really a big loss for us that you didn't record this man :'(

JABBERJAW
22nd November 2011, 04:42 PM
I have the replay of two of the races ( iPad) if you want those

stin
22nd November 2011, 04:43 PM
True, I`m more interested is his line!8)

Did not see his post after me! and yes please if you can!!!!:hyper

stevie:)

JABBERJAW
22nd November 2011, 05:12 PM
http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?desktop_uri=%2Fuser%2Fwipeout2097xl&help=False&channel_id=0&livestreaming_tutorial=False&ytsession=%7B%7D&start=0&user=wipeout2097xl&autoplay=True&gl=US


My camcorder was dropped in water,which is why I am not recording in real time ATM.

stin
22nd November 2011, 05:40 PM
Your link are not working on both of them. :frown: Is it private or different link?

stevie:!

JABBERJAW
22nd November 2011, 05:45 PM
I don't think it was private, search for wipeout2097XL AS A USER

amplificated
22nd November 2011, 05:45 PM
he messed the links up, but you can watch the vids via his channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/wipeout2097xl).

stin
22nd November 2011, 05:53 PM
Done and added it! thanks to amplificated!!:D

I just want to know who you are and now I know.8)

stevie:)

AmigoJack
25th November 2011, 04:23 PM
Auricom @ Porto Kora:

2:18.68
0:31.76
0:27.84
0:27.16
0:26.40
0:25.52 P


Didn't someone said he lost all his highscores? Well I noticed that Tom's survived for over 2 years now: :P

dan
25th November 2011, 04:40 PM
first of all respect to jabberjaw for his times and thank´s for this awesome p-mar video!:clap

so the challenge is to make the first place behind you (if Arnaud doesn´t feel challenged;))

this is my first attempt (took me 2 hours this afternoon)

Porta Kora
Racetime: 1:54.76
Best Lap : 21.76

P-Mar
Racetime: 3:19.12
BestLap : 36.24

Manor Top
Racetime: 2:30.74
BestLap : 26.50

Terminal
Racetime: 2:45.96
BestLap : 31.96

I used the Assegai for all tracks (maybe this is the new Icaras for 3se phantom class?)

:xtree

JABBERJAW
27th November 2011, 01:01 AM
Thanks, where is Arnaud anyway? I think a few more seconds will have to come off if he competes :). Dan, unfortunately, the Icaras completely dominates every wipeout track in all the versions, except for manor top TT, sometimes by as much as 8-10 seconds. Although it is incredibly hard to pilot in comparison.

leungbok
27th November 2011, 07:20 AM
Wow !! Some great competition over there ! :)

AmigoJack
27th November 2011, 02:21 PM
Auricom @ Manor Top:

2:49.12
0:35.04
0:37.20
0:32.20
0:32.32
0:32.36


Auricom @ Terminal:

2:54.28
0:35.72
0:37.12
0:32.96
0:35.40
0:33.08


Auricom @ P-mar Project (most difficult to me):

4:04.96
0:49.80
0:51.80
0:50.32
0:47.64
0:45.40


I started sucking on all of the 3 tracks. :redface: But racing and practizing exactly 1 hour gave me much improvement. ;) But I'm far away from not depending on visiting the pit-lane... Anyhow I want to contribute and am hugely enjoying this masterpiece of a game. And in contrast to almost all others it's quite easy for me to get my hands on a copy of the delicious prize. :P

JABBERJAW
29th November 2011, 06:47 PM
Hope you don't mind, but here are some of the standings so far


Track............porta............pmar.........man or.........term..........race......lap........tota l

Jabber...........1:38.44.......2:45.56......1:57.3 9.....2:15.76....8:37.98..................10:16.60
.......................18.80..........31.80....... ..22.76........26.20.................1:39.56


Tomahawk.....1:52.84.......3:22.60......2:31.08... ..2:42.96.....10:29.40...............12:26.76
.......................21.48..........38.32....... ..27.28........30.20..................1:57.28


Dan...............1:54.76......3:19.12.......2:30. 74......2:45.96....10:30.58...............12:27.04
.......................21.76.........36.24........ ..26.50.........31.96.................1:56.46


Stin..............1:55.78......3:37.28........2:31 .02......2:36.76....10:40.84...........12:40.96
......................21.76.........41.32......... ..28.08.........29.44................2:00.12


Mad.............1:59.08......3:49.36........2:20.7 8.......2:43.40....10:52.62...........12:52.28
......................22.40........41.32.......... .26.10..........29.84................1:59.66


amigo...........2:18.68.......4:04.96.......2:49.1 2......2:54.28.....12:07.14..........14:23.12
......................25.52........45.40.......... 32.20..........32.96.................2:16.08


Asayyeah.....1:41.44
.....................18.96


CRUDBALL...2:38.68
................. ....28.92


Renfis..........2:59.84
.....................32.68


Temet.........(NEED SOME TIMES :) )

stin
29th November 2011, 07:37 PM
Somebody has been detected!:blarg and now I`m scared:paperbag

stevie:(

JABBERJAW
30th November 2011, 04:11 AM
Yeah, you are not the only one who is scared. Got a new porta time tonight, put up the replay on YouTube, also, a second replay of assegai, which I believe the ship is just as good if used right ( no bottoming out)

Assegai 1:38.74 Best first lap 20.16 ( once!) the next is 20.40. Best lap 18.68

Piranha 1:38.44. Best first lap 20.44 (3 times). Best lap 18.64

The piranha race was the only race I've done on porta without either touching another ship, or getting hit with weapons. The end of lap 3 is the killer, as well as the beginning of lap 4.

dan
30th November 2011, 03:01 PM
hi

if i got it right your recent Assegai Pmar racetime is better than the old Icaras time on the record tables Jab and my question wasn´t meant 100% serious;)
but regarding your Pmar time we could open a serious thread discussing on wich tracks it would be worth trying to beat the old Icaras records with slower ships.
Porta Kora does not belong to them but i made personal records on the 3 other tracks using Assegai.

happy racing everybody !

Asayyeah
30th November 2011, 03:10 PM
already amazing records for you Al ! :clap
That's gonna be tough to tie or beat you.

I clean up the dust from negcon, fand my memory card with SE saves on it and raced during 2 minutes : the I button failure :( , didn't want to open it i choosed a brand new one : faulty twist on the left grrr, get my last 3rd white and I button absolutely dead : 2 brand new neggies out of order :(
Luckily after fixing the spring of my 1st neg it was eventually ok for my 1st set of races.

Needs to work harder on that last shortcut, hijacking the airpin.
But one thing i can't do is re-mapping my layout buttons : it's simply too late for me to learn a new way of dealing with airbrakes on other buttons rather than on the shoulder ones. Because i know i am loosing a slight of thrust when i want to hyperthrust ( I for thrust and II for hyperthrust), same when i am using a weapon, discarding is easier but i have to release the right shoulder. ahahah life is so cruel !:twisted

I choosed Porto Kora with pirahna with this set up ! 0/63/2

1.41.44 ==> 22.04 / 20.48 / 20.20 / 19.76 / 18.96

JABBERJAW
30th November 2011, 04:57 PM
Arnaud, it could be the port on your ps1! Check another ps1 if you can. Very good time, please don't come any closer :)

Dan, you are right on that, and I think a 2:46 is possible with the Assegai. However, I'm quite sure a 2:42 is possible with Icarus now. I didn't race the best line with that last time and was relying on autopilots, and Arnaud raced just to beat all my records :( , and decided not to obliterate them. I do plan on testing after the challenge and see the difference. Assegai is close on manor top, pmar,and maybe hi fumii, but close means 2-5 seconds on SR. THE other tracks are huge differences


18.96! Nice.

Asayyeah
1st December 2011, 12:35 PM
Thx for the idea Al, wil tell if it comes from this faulty ps1.

Faulty ps1 maybe but I second what said Dan and Al : Assegai is a killer through Pmar. After struggling last night testing Pirahna on that track : 10 sec from your racetime Al, I prefered to learn more through TT and Assegai with 0/45/1 as a setup.
Not a bad idea almost 1sec shaved off from old icaras! 32.44
The key is the big jump/shortcut : with internal view i am trying to see everytime the road below, if i can't see it or jumping straight forward from the jump will lead to wuss wagon. I almost land after the end of the final tunnel. You can also land properly before the tunnel entrance but this requires a perfect timing and airbraking definitely slower than previous technique tho.

JABBERJAW
1st December 2011, 05:12 PM
I need to learn that. I land before the tunnel




Pmar new time.

2:47.06

32.08 lap

2:44 is definitely possible with this. The weapon hits on lap 4 chicane are killing me



Having trouble with consistency, got a 31.20 lap on lap two one race and multiple low 32's, but can't seem to get them in my faster races. I am finding it better to pit 2-3 times, since you can still go 32.6 with a pit if everything else is in order. The damn mines when lapping them sucks as well

Tomahawk
4th December 2011, 11:56 AM
I didn't have time to do some more tries on Porto Kora and Manor Top, but I've got some updated times on P-Mar and Terminal with my NeGcon powered Auricom:

Porto Kora
0:22.88 (P)
0:23.12
0:22.32
0:21.48 (P)
0:23.04
1:52.84

I usually start the race with a turbo start and immediately pull my ship a little bit to the right side of the track and hyperthrust so that I leave 2 or 3 AI ships behind me when I enter the first long right hand bend. After the bend, before the litte chicane I pull up my ship's nose and hyperthrust a little to fly right over the chicane in a straight line and land right before the next right hand bend which leads to the jump. I hyperthurst again at the moment when I leave the jump and pull my ship to the right and it's nose up so that I cut the right hand bend right after the jump and try to land my ship at the beginning of the downhill section leading into the tunnel with it's nose parallel to the track. I then go off at high speed through the tunnel and the two hard right hand bends after it. I then hit my left airbreaks before entering the left hand bend which leads to the track split before the finish line and the pit. If I go on to the finish line without going through the pit I hyperthrust again and pull my nose up and try to cut a little part of the chicane before the finish line. If I enter the pit I usually do not hyperthrust.

Manor Top
0:34.28
0:31.76
0:28.92
0:28.84
0:27.28
2:31.08

Description of my racing line will follow soon.

P-Mar Project
0:46.12
0:39.84
0:39.76
0:38.56
0:38.32
3:22.60

Description of my racing line will follow soon.

Terminal
0:35.36
0:32.88
0:33.76
0:30.76
0:30.20
2:42.96

I only had the time for 3 runs on Terminal, Ill try to get back to this track in a few days and improve my times.

Oh, and I forgot to mention: For the prices I consider my times non-competitive. That means if I'm am one of the first three competitors in the final results the fourth placed contender will automatically recieve my box of Lebkuchen. :)

JABBERJAW
4th December 2011, 04:06 PM
Nice times. I was going to update the board, but am going to wait for CRUDBALL to finish his times. I finished my pmar effort I think, my best time was a 2:45.44, but my lap wasn't fast enough to beat my second fastest time. So my final for pmar is

2:45.56

33.44
31.80
34.36
33.72
32.24

Very frustrating track, because when you finally get past the CPU, it becomes nervous time :)

I have the real time video up on YouTube. Wipeout2097xl. Channel

New manor top time

1:57.30

24.94
23.14
22.94
23.52
22.76

CRUDBALL
5th December 2011, 03:18 AM
My first time

Porta kora

2:38.68
35.48
28.92
31.04
31.88
31.36

JABBERJAW
5th December 2011, 04:58 PM
UPDATED RESULTS THUS FAR


Track............porta............pmar.........man or.........term..........race......lap........tota l

Jabber...........1:38.44.......2:45.56......1:57.3 0......2:15.76....8:37.98..................10:16.6 0
.......................18.80..........31.80...... ..22.76.........26.20.................1:39.56


Tomahawk.....1:52.84.......3:22.60......2:31.08... ..2:42.96.....10:29.48................12:26.84
.......................21.48..........38.32....... ..27.28........30.20..................1:57.28


Dan...............1:54.76......3:19.12.......2:30. 74......2:45.96....10:30.58...............12:27.04
.......................21.76.........36.24........ ..26.50.........31.96.................1:56.46


Stin..............1:55.78......3:37.28........2:31 .02......2:36.76....10:40.84...............12:40.9 6
......................21.76.........41.32......... ..28.08.........29.44................2:00.12


Mad.............1:59.08......3:49.36........2:20.7 8.......2:43.40....10:52.62...............12:52.28
......................22.40........41.32.......... .26.10..........29.84................1:59.66


amigo...........2:18.68.......4:04.96.......2:49.1 2......2:54.28.....12:07.14..............14:23.12
......................25.52........45.40.......... 32.20..........32.96.................2:16.08


Asayyeah.....1:41.44
.....................18.96


CRUDBALL...2:38.68
................. ....28.92


Renfis..........2:59.84
.....................32.68


Temet.........(NEED SOME TIMES )

stin
5th December 2011, 05:11 PM
Al....I`m still playing atm but now I`m back to work for time being. :(

I will do my best to beat my scores.....:mr-t

stevie:)

JABBERJAW
6th December 2011, 12:14 AM
Anyone see tomahawk's and Dan's total time?

0.28 seconds apart total! Awesome, now that's close

Tomahawk
6th December 2011, 08:10 AM
Yeah, it's like 5 years ago when I got 3SE and dan and me would spend hours and hours playing that game and pushing each other to always new personal best times on the tracks. :) Dan told me he has some new and slightly better times already but didn't post them yet, so our race for second / third place is far from finished yet :D

Edit: Oh and it's even closer because my total race times sum up to a 10:29.48, so we are only 0.20 seconds apart!

Temet
6th December 2011, 07:45 PM
Ok, so yesterday I did the 8 tracks in Rapier to unlock Phantom.
Now, I did the 8 tracks on Phantom... only with Auricom (I don't need to unlock Assegai, I won't use it).
So, here are the times with 1 single try :

2772

You were definitely right, beating my Manortop time I struggled to performe on non-se by 10 seconds on first try was really not expected.
Now, I have to practice :hyper

Tomahawk
7th December 2011, 07:45 AM
I'm going to switch my ship to Assegai at least for P-Mar and Manortop the next time I'm playing for this challenge. Auricom seems just a little bit too clumsy for those technical tracks.

Rennfisch
7th December 2011, 08:44 AM
Here are my times:

P-Mar race time: 5.11.80
1) 1.02.40
2) 1.01.36
3) 1.07.12
4) 1.11.28
5) 0.49.64 because of 3 autopilots :g

Manor race time: 4.07.84
1) 0.54.80
2) 0.44.80
3) 0.53.12
4) 0.45.28
5) 0.49.84

Terminal race time: 3.35.68
1) 0.45.32
2) 0.44.64
3) 0.41.84
4) 0.43.24
5) 0.40.64

Before this challenge, I was nääwaaarrr (never 8)) racing phantom, only vector or max. venom ;), so I'm so happy I got times :g.

Temet
7th December 2011, 09:26 PM
New times :)

2775

My final goal was to get under 13', it's already done.
I'm 0.10 seconds to my dear friend Mad-Ice... I really have to practice Porto-Kora, everybody kicks my ass on this one! :g

EDIT : I forgot to copy the total cell... it's 12'52"38 !

CRUDBALL
8th December 2011, 01:35 AM
Pmar project. Feisar

4:37.68

52.68


Piranha next

Tomahawk
8th December 2011, 07:21 AM
Didn't someone said he lost all his highscores? Well I noticed that Tom's survived for over 2 years now: :P

I just saw that post of yours. If i remember correctly I set those times when G'Kyl and me were playing 3SE in your house at the EWC in Frankfurt. Nice that you still have those times saved on your memorycard. :)

Flint Fandango
8th December 2011, 08:01 AM
I´m still in, don´t you forget about me! But unlike some of the others, I´ll post all four track & lap times at once. They aren´t competitive because of my poor results, but nonetheless, I´ll post them before deadline.

I haven´t survived Terminal and Manor Top yet, but I think I can do them at last...:coffee

JABBERJAW
8th December 2011, 01:20 PM
UPDATED RESULTS THUS FAR



Track............porta............pmar.........man or.........term..........race......lap........tota l

Jabber...........1:38.44.......2:45.56......1:57.3 0......2:15.76....8:37.98..................10:16.6 0
.......................18.80..........31.80...... ..22.76.........26.20.................1:39.56


Stin..............1:52.58......3:22.96........2:20 .46.......2:34.56....10:10.56...............12:06. 40
......................21.32.........38.80......... ..26.44..........29.76.................1:55.84


Tomahawk.....1:52.84.......3:22.60......2:31.08... ..2:42.96.....10:29.48................12:26.84
.......................21.48..........38.32....... ..27.28........30.20..................1:57.28


Dan...............1:54.76......3:19.12.......2:30. 74......2:45.96....10:30.58...............12:27.04
.......................21.76.........36.24........ ..26.50.........31.96.................1:56.46


Temet..........2:05.46......3:27.64........2:34.82 .........2:40.44....10:48.36..............12:49.16
.....................23.64..........38.44......... ..28.20...........30.52...............2:00.80


Mad.............1:59.08......3:49.36........2:20.7 8.......2:43.40....10:52.62...............12:52.28
......................22.40........41.32.......... .26.10..........29.84................1:59.66

amigo...........2:18.68.......4:04.96.......2:49.1 2......2:54.28.....12:07.14..............14:23.12
......................25.52........45.40.......... 32.20..........32.96.................2:16.08


CRUDBALL....2:38.66.....4:37.68..........2:59.48.. .....2:57.60
......................28.92......52.68............ .32.76.........33.04


FLINT.........2:58.12.......4:50.48.........3:53.5 8........3:43.60
....................34.08..........56.00.......... ..38.32...........41.56


renfis...........2:59.84........5:11.80.......4:07 .84.......3:35.68.....15:55.16..............18:47. 96
......................32.68..........49.64........ ...49.84..........40.64...............2:52.80

Asayyeah.....1:41.44
.....................18.96

Temet
8th December 2011, 02:06 PM
Thanks Al but my total is 12:52.38 ;)
But tonight, it will be less :twisted

JABBERJAW
8th December 2011, 03:41 PM
Yeah, fixed, added the laps wrong, was in a hurry! :)

Flint Fandango
8th December 2011, 05:25 PM
Well, I changed my mind, once again.
Therefore, here are my results for Porto Kora and P-Mar in close collaboration with FEISAR:

Porto Kora

1.] 0:36.84

2.] 0:36.20

3.] 0:35.76

4.] 0:35.24

5.] 0:34.08

Race Time: 2:58.12


P-mar Project

1.] 0:59.40

2.] 0:56.64

3.] 0:56.00

4.] 1:01.52

5.] 0:56.92

Race Time: 4:50.48

I´ll handle the other two tracks on saturday/sunday! :banzai

Temet
8th December 2011, 06:58 PM
I just improved a bit Porto Kora.
I'm still very far from "top times without Al and Asa" :g

2778

End of the week, I'm getting too tired, I can't play before saturday I think :(

Flint Fandango
10th December 2011, 03:49 PM
Here are my two final times -
Team Feisar feat. Autopilot:

Manor Top

1.] 0:50.08

2.] 0:47.08

3.] 0:53.28

4.] 0:44.80

5.] 0:38.32

Race Time: 3:53.56


Terminal

1.] 0:45.52

2.] 0:41.56

3.] 0:48.12

4.] 0:44.12

5.] 0:44.28

Race Time: 3:43.60

It was a tough job, but pretty funny!
Well, I can still go out on the balcony and suck in the smell of fresh lebkuchen, manufactured in the two factories at close quarters to my block... :D

JABBERJAW
10th December 2011, 04:08 PM
Nine competitors now have a full set of times. Incomplete times for CRUDBALL and asayyeah, and no times yet for infoxicated, locus2k, and task. We could have 14 if everyone gets in their times, not bad for a 12 year old game. I'll do an update later tonight to give everyone a chance to get in some more times

stin
10th December 2011, 04:36 PM
My latest times so far

Piranha

Porto Kora 24.90, 22.44, 21.32, 21.64, 22.28 = 1.52.58
P-mar Project 42.24, 39.92, 42.76, 38.80, 39.24 = 3.22.96
Manor Top 31.12, 26.44, 26.88, 28.46, 27.56 = 2.20.46
Terminal 32.40, 31.52, 29.76, 31.60, 30.08 = 2:34.56



That`s me the now.

stevie:)

Temet
10th December 2011, 05:59 PM
C'mon, how is it possible everyone is kicking my ass so hardly on Porto Kora?
Al and Asa, ok, of course... but everyone??? Is there an uber easy shortcut ???

Rennfisch
10th December 2011, 06:16 PM
@Temet: Everyone? Ha... lol. I'm nearly one minute behind you! :D

Temet
10th December 2011, 06:22 PM
Yeah correct, everyone that already played end of the previous millenium :g

stin
10th December 2011, 07:10 PM
Temet, did you ever watch our YT?:twisted

stevie;)

JABBERJAW
11th December 2011, 03:33 PM
Nice races stin! Moves you into # 2 right now. Sorry I haven't updated, my wall outlets shut down last night, am I'm doing a workaround right now

CRUDBALL
14th December 2011, 01:53 AM
Manor top
Assegai

2:59.48. 32.76


Terminal
Assegai

2:57.60. 33.04


One more pmar try with assegai

JABBERJAW
14th December 2011, 03:39 AM
UPDATED RESULTS THUS FAR



Track............porta............pmar.........man or.........term..........race......lap........tota l

Jabber...........1:38.44.......2:45.56......1:57.3 0......2:15.76....8:37.98..................10:16.6 0
.......................18.80..........31.80...... ..22.76.........26.20.................1:39.56


Stin..............1:52.58......3:22.96........2:20 .46.......2:34.56....10:10.56...............12:06. 40
......................21.32.........38.80......... ..26.44..........29.76.................1:55.84


Tomahawk.....1:51.20.......3:22.60.......2:24.12.. ....2:32.80.....10:10.52...............12:06.80
.......................21.60..........38.32....... ..27.08.........29.28..................1:56.28


Dan...............1:51.64......3:19.12........2:28 .08......2:35.96....10:14.70...............12:08.5 2
.......................21.16.........36.24........ ..26.62.........29.80.................1:53.82


Temet..........2:05.46......3:27.64........2:34.82 .........2:40.44....10:48.36..............12:49.16
.....................23.64..........38.44......... ..28.20...........30.52...............2:00.80


Mad.............1:59.08......3:49.36........2:20.7 8.......2:43.40....10:52.62...............12:52.28
......................22.40........41.32.......... .26.10..........29.84................1:59.66


amigo...........2:18.68.......4:04.96.......2:49.1 2......2:54.28.....12:07.14..............14:23.12
......................25.52........45.40.......... 32.20..........32.96.................2:16.08


CRUDBALL....2:38.66.....4:02.48..........2:59.48.. ....2:57.60.....12:38.32...............14:59.14
......................28.92........46.20.......... ...32.76.........33.04................2:20.82


FLINT.........2:58.12.......4:50.48..........3:53. 58........3:43.60.....15:25.78.............18:16.6 6
....................34.08..........56.00.......... ..38.32...........41.56..............2:50.88


Locus2k.....3:00.84.......5:27.00..........3:35.08 ........3:35.04.....15:52.22..............18:45.22
...................32.80..........59.00........... ..40.90...........40.28...............2:52.98


renfis..........2:59.84........5:11.80.......4:07 .84.......3:35.68.....15:55.16..............18:47. 96
.....................32.68..........49.64........ ...49.84..........40.64...............2:52.80


Asayyeah.....1:41.44
.....................18.96

dan
14th December 2011, 06:46 AM
hoi
I was trying to push my total time under 12 min but had too much work to get done before christmas so i didn´t have enough time for practicing. So here are my final times for this challenge:

Porto Kora
race: 1:51.64
lap: 21.16

Manor Top
race: 2:28.08
lap: 26.62

Terminal
race: 2:35.96
lap: 29.80

together with my p-mar time this adds to 12:08.62 .

I wish everybody a nice christmas and i´m looking forward to next years challenges!

stin
14th December 2011, 07:28 AM
* breathing hard.......nice times Dan!:clap So near and yet so far!:bat

stevie:)

infoxicated
14th December 2011, 12:27 PM
When The Who wrote that Pinball Wizard song, I think it was retrospectively about me playing at Phantom. :|

That's all I seem to do - I'm struggling to complete races at Phantom, never mind going for consistency and times.

Think I'll be posting whatever times I manage to accomplish on Friday, but they won't be threatening anything posted so far.

Flint Fandango
14th December 2011, 05:00 PM
You´re not alone, Rob! ;)
When I entered the pitlane at terminal, I had to go round in circles for about 5 times, only to survive the next laps.
Now that you mentioned The Who, my feat reminds me of Dead or Alive - Spin me round...

JABBERJAW
14th December 2011, 06:26 PM
Crud ball(Rennie). Used feisar with checkpoints off until he was able to complete races, worked pretty well, then he switched ships once he was able to not hit quite as much. It also helped that I learned he liked the exact same negcon sensitivity settings that I use. He was able to turn quicker than what I initially set him up at. He is also pitching back about 3 times as much as he should, but it's keeping him off the walls :)

CRUDBALL
15th December 2011, 01:07 AM
Pmar new time Assegai.

4:02.48

51.84
48.28
47.80
46.20
48.36

Tomahawk
15th December 2011, 09:57 PM
My final times with my NeGcon powered Auricom:

Porto Kora
0:23.00
0:21.60 (p)
0:21.68 (p)
0:22.08 (P)
0:22.84
1:51.20

I usually start the race with a turbo start and immediately pull my ship a little bit to the right side of the track and hyperthrust so that I leave 2 or 3 AI ships behind me when I enter the first long right hand bend. After the bend, before the litte chicane I pull up my ship's nose and hyperthrust a little to fly right over the chicane in a straight line and land right before the next right hand bend which leads to the jump. I hyperthurst again at the moment when I leave the jump and pull my ship to the right and it's nose up so that I cut the right hand bend right after the jump and try to land my ship at the beginning of the downhill section leading into the tunnel with it's nose parallel to the track. I then go off at high speed through the tunnel and the two hard right hand bends after it. I then hit my left airbreaks before entering the left hand bend which leads to the track split before the finish line and the pit. If I go on to the finish line without going through the pit I hyperthrust again and pull my nose up and try to cut a little part of the chicane before the finish line. If I enter the pit I usually do not hyperthrust.

Manor Top
0:31.16
0:28.80
0:29.24
0:27.84
0:27.08
2:24.12

P-Mar Project
0:46.12
0:39.84
0:39.76
0:38.56
0:38.32
3:22.60

Terminal
0:32.68
0:29.32
0:29.28
0:31.56
0:29.96
2:32.80

Tomahawk
15th December 2011, 10:54 PM
It's now december 16th, 0:45 am gmt+1 and our Challenge is officially closed. If you still want to enter your times (Rob, I'd really like to see your efforts!) please do so, but I won't be able to count them for the final results.

I won't be having a lot of time during the next 3 days, so maybe JABBERJAW can continue to update the times-list from all participants and find out who made it onto the podium. Places 1, 2 and 3 (and 4 if I acquired one of the podium places myself), please send me your address as soon as possible so that I can post your box of Lebkuchen to you. :)

Thank you all for participating in this challenge. It was a lot of fun for me to dig out 3SE again and fly some rounds around the tracks and I hope you all feel the same! Watch out for the christmas challenge 2012 - 3SE reloaded! :g

locus2k
16th December 2011, 12:28 AM
All times with feisar

Porta

3:00.84
32.80

Pmar

5:27.00
59.00

Manor top

3:35.08
40.90

Terminal

3:35.04
40.28

JABBERJAW
16th December 2011, 12:31 AM
Would you mind extending till the end of the 16 th? I think some were thinking Friday. I don't mind myself, and would like to see as many participants get in their times as possible.

Great challenge btw ! Got me interested in wo3 again. I wish Arnaud had fully participated

@tomahawk, you probably could knock off 25 seconds or so if you used piranha/assegAi for all the tracks.


I'll be glad to tally the results, but each person should verify my calculations

Tomahawk
16th December 2011, 07:29 AM
Ok, the Challenge is extended until friday 17th of december (today) 12 pm gmt+1.

I tried to switch to Assegai for P-Mar and Manor Top, but with so little time for racing it was impossible for me to get accustomed to any other ship than my beloved Auricom. Maybe next year I'll try another ship.

infoxicated
16th December 2011, 02:16 PM
Sorry, Tom - I completely forgot about the deadline today. I had my works xmas party last night and as I stayed with a work mate I haven't been home yet. As I'm looking after the kids tonight I'm unlikely to get the chance to post my times, but I'll hopefully post them over the weekend.

JABBERJAW
16th December 2011, 06:23 PM
No time for totals right now, but a few preliminary addition totals

Dan. 12:08.52

Tomahawk. 12:08.26

Locus2k. 18:45.22

Flint. 18:16.66

CRUDBALL. 14:59.14

I will add up all the totals tonight

JABBERJAW
17th December 2011, 01:33 AM
UPDATED RESULTS THUS FAR
waiting for Rob's times and perhaps arnaud


Track............porta............pmar..........ma nor..........term..........race......lap........to ta l

Jabber...........1:38.44.......2:45.56......1:57.3 0......2:15.76.......8:37.98...............10:16.6 0
.......................18.80..........31.80...... ..22.76.........26.20.................1:39.56


Stin..............1:52.58......3:22.96.........2:2 0.46.......2:34.56....10:10.56...............12:06 .40
......................21.32.........38.80......... ..26.44..........29.76.................1:55.84


Tomahawk.....1:51.20.......3:22.60.......2:24.12.. ....2:32.80.....10:10.72...............12:07.00
.......................21.60..........38.32....... ..27.08..........29.28.................1:56.28


Dan...............1:51.64......3:19.12.........2:2 8.08......2:35.96....10:14.70...............12:08. 52
.......................21.16.........36.24........ .....26.62.........29.80.................1:53.82


Temet..........2:05.46......3:27.64..........2:34. 82.........2:40.44....10:48.36..............12:49. 16
.....................23.64..........38.44......... ..28.20.............30.52...............2:00.80


Mad.............1:59.08......3:49.36........2:20.7 8........2:43.40.......10:52.62...............12:5 2.28
......................22.40........41.32.......... .26.10..........29.84...................1:59.66


amigo...........2:18.68.......4:04.96.......2:49.1 2......2:54.28.....12:07.14.................14:23. 12
......................25.52........45.40.......... 32.20...........32.96....................2:16.08


CRUDBALL....2:38.66.....4:02.48..........2:59.48.. ....2:57.60.....12:38.32.................14:59.14
......................28.92........46.20.......... ...32.76..........33.04...................2:20.82


FLINT..........2:58.12......4:50.48..........3:53. 58.......3:43.60.....15:25.78.................18:1 6.66
......................34.08........56.00.......... ..38.32..........41.56...................2:50.88


Locus2k......3:00.84.......5:27.00..........3:35.0 8.......3:35.04......15:52.22................18:45 .22
....................32.80..........59.00.......... ...40.90..........40.28...................2:52.98


renfis..........2:59.84.......5:11.80.........4:07 .84........3:35.68......15:55.16................18 :47.96
....................32.68..........49.64.......... ...49.84...........40.64..................2:52.80


Asayyeah.....1:41.44
.....................18.96


Intoxicated..( no times yet)

Tomahawk
18th December 2011, 12:15 PM
My total time is 12:07.00, not 12:06.80.

JABBERJAW and stin, if you want to give me your address I'll send the prices to you asap. To dan I'll be able to give his box of Lebkuchen personally.

JABBERJAW
18th December 2011, 01:11 PM
Where is the messup, total race or lap time?

stin
18th December 2011, 03:03 PM
PMed sent! :nod:+

Had a ball with this game.

stevie:D

Tomahawk
18th December 2011, 08:59 PM
Where is the messup, total race or lap time?

In the total race time I think.

JABBERJAW
19th December 2011, 09:35 PM
Fixed time added. Guess no one else is entering any more times

Tomahawk
21st December 2011, 07:40 AM
Thanks for fixing the time.

Yes, I too don't think any more times will be submitted for this challenge. Sad that Task, Medusa, Autechom, Sausehuhn, Arnaud and many more weren't able to fully participate in this challenge. Too much other things to do such a short time before christmas I guess.

AmigoJack
22nd December 2011, 10:53 PM
Man - I thought I would bring up the rear. :)

But it was fun all along NegConning W3SE again. Was already a bit unpleased with the choice of the tracks, as I would have mostly liked all the others better. ;) Didn't had the chance to improve since I was away the last week.

While I rather post sparingly here: I wish you all a merry Chistmas already!! :xtree:banzai