Track Secrets

[D_1998_BR]

Do you know of something not so many people know on the WipEout HD Tracks? If you do,post here.Including Barrel Roll opportunities,shortcuts,special signs (like the Tigron Enterprises one at Metropia,when your on the magnetic field look back and you should see it upside down) well,ANYTHING!
Feel free to post your finds and share them to the community

[blackwiggle]

There are only a few "short cut's" per se.

1st on Chenghou reverse, you need a Turbo to do it.[Rapier & Phantom speed]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZL8Dzci560
You can BR while doing it for a extra boost once landed, you need to side shift left to pull it off successfully though, not easy at phantom speed.

Ubermall Forward
There are 2, the fist can only be done at Phantom speed with a turbo, the second at pretty much any speed with a turbo.[See video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps9BD3C1OGE

Ubermall Reverse.
You need a turbo and balls of steel to attempt this, not to mention perfect aiming of your crafts nose.
Can be done from Flash speed [you really need to side shift to position yourself to do it at such slow a speed and turbo late], Rapier & Phantom speed all depends on the timing, Time Trials really get you perfecting it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_y4V2OXGAw
PS: Don't worry about hitting the outside of the ramps wall.
See this post.
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5924

[D_1998_BR]

There are only a few "short cut's" per se.

1st on Chenghou reverse, you need a Turbo to do it.[Rapier & Phantom speed]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZL8Dzci560
You can BR while doing it for a extra boost once landed, you need to side shift left to pull it off successfully though, not easy at phantom speed.


You actually don't need a turbo for it...Aim for that arm on the side of the track and side-shift right,it isn't as effective as the turbo one,but you can save the turbo for the last straight into the finish line,theres an almost-invisible bump there,boost and nose up,barrel roll at your own risk :g

It works in any class,even on Zone's Sub-venom

[P_Denton]

Why restrict yourself to sub-venom ? :P It really works for about any zone, you may just want to get off the track slightly earlier as you progress in speed. I'm still looking for a way to br without hitting the walls (and missing SP if possible) on the open section of Sol 2 rev without boost around the 40s-50s. I managed one, but I didn't manage to replicate it, getting the right pitch as you exit the track is really hard imo.

[D_1998_BR]

Why restrict yourself to sub-venom?

Just an example to tell it works in any class :sonar

[Oryx Crake]

the most rewarding one and also most difficult one is this one on Sol 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2z_C9gqDGc

pira is insane for making it so many times in a row

Oh and D it works pretty much the same way in every class the only thing thyat really changes is the timing and angle I only have an example in phantom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xqOAEE5-hC8#t=164s) but if you understand how it's done there you can do it in every class essentially.

[D_1998_BR]

That's a heck of a shortcut! Never would think of it...

I know,I know,it works in any class,i used the example as Sub-Venom to tell you can be painfully slow,it will still work if you do it right :)

[runingman111]

think this is also attractive - click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIJKvr3p_s&feature=related)

[runingman111]

thank you Rob - here is the advice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AmpIificated#p/u/0/N0zMMj7jlGk)

[UB3R~JKP]

Great thread, some of the greats are a tad secretive. :lol

[runingman111]

my favorite - here (http://www.youtube.com/user/Xenocide2097#p/c/4F7E9ADFD0DC127F/0/yCeb0IjG-4o)

[D_1998_BR]

As this thread is getting slightly popular,I'd like to ask you guys to check out the Queen Bee Mode thread,see if you like and message me if your in

[runingman111]

SOL 2 ...think this is :+ 4 a good start watch this first (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LLxG_8brEw&feature=related) and 4 all who search the right point 4 jumping this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2z_C9gqDGc&feature=related) ... i love the music to try it .. epic :g

[blackwiggle]

I'm know Piraphic has a heap saved as video uploaded to YouTube, but have only been viewable by invite only, I haven't seen him playing HD/FURY in a very long time.
The thing is, he & Leungbok were the two most actively involved in finding a lot of the obscure BR points.[I could spot possible places as well as them, and I'd mention them to them, sure enough they could pull them off, but rarely if ever actually perform them myself]

I was in conversation with all the elite pilots at one stage for the purpose of making a "Wipeout HD/FURY Master BR/Shortcut video"....to cut a long story short it just became too big.
Mainly because people wanted credit [rightly so in my opinion] for finding the more obscure BR positions, and for that to be made evident in the final video.
Problem was/is, how to you give credit when there is no proof, and then have the problem of somebody challenging the info in the video[s]

Well, going by the HD/FURY VIDEO thread and the various comps that have been run over the last 3 years, there has been posted both at the Wipeoutzone & Wipeout Arena there were around 20-25 different people that found the most well known BR positions & short cuts.

Suggest you CAREFULLY watch ALL the videos in the Video thread, you will see, in many cases the first time ever on video, a lot of BR positions and the date they were first found.
I know of two that are not well known [I've seldom seen anybody actually do them online] that are in that thread in the first 30 pages.
One is by Xtriko on Chenghou reverse. ;) on the bend just after the first mag strip, {useful if you haven't picked up a turbo beforehand and taken the shortcut boost]
Second - Check for all the videos by XBARSTERX, I can't remember which track it's from [FURY tracks most likely] but I have never seen anybody do it at this position before or since.

[Archon]

I certainly have never seen this (http://youtu.be/M1eKQeXzOc8?t=1m19s).

Or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjs_Hpx0hpQ). Good God.

[leungbok]

Problem was/is, how to you give credit when there is no proof, and then have the problem of somebody challenging the info in the video[s]
As it's impossible to undoubtedly know the real finder of a BR or boost location, give credit to the first who shared it in video, it's the most important for the community ! ;)

[D_1998_BR]

I haven't seen much people actually doing this barrel roll on online games,whether high or low level players,but here it goes:

Chengou Project FWD,Any Class (on higher classes it gets way harder,but still doable)
After that ~build robots~ thing there will be a turn to the right,try to make it as close to the wall as possible,then side-shift left,it should give you enough air to Barrel Roll

If you didn`t understand,i will try and make a video of it soon enough :)

[blackwiggle]

As it's impossible to undoubtedly know the real finder of a BR or boost location, give credit to the first who shared it in video, it's the most important for the community ! ;)

Well for an example.
Who FIRST found the 2 extra BR's down the finishing straight of Vinitea K forward?
Wotan/Assayeah/Pira or Yourself ?, there is a 5th candidate, but really it's a lottery.
I love all you guys, and don't want to offend anybody, so I can't make the call.
Then again I doubt any of the 4 of you would say either of you were the first, it was sort of a mutual finding.8)

EDIT: Actually, once I searched back through the video thread, I found it wasn't any of you that found it first, if video posting first of the deed is the criterion LOL
A long forgotten UK pilot [ Long time MIA but Urged back for a brief appearance for the HD CUP, [HINT: They were a FEISER pilot exclusively]

[blackwiggle]

Double post..opps

[leungbok]

Well for an example.
Who FIRST found the 2 extra BR's down the finishing straight of Vinitea K forward?
Wotan/Assayeah/Pira or Yourself ?, there is a 5th candidate, but really it's a lottery

It's possible to change the words "discoverer of" by "first to show" a BR or tricks ;)
And in case of doubt on a particular one, we can discuss to decide who must be credited, i think about the boost/BR shortcut on moa forward pirahpac told me and that i filmed first (in that case, it's possible to say "filmed by leungbok after a pirahpac's idea").


After that ~build robots~ thing there will be a turn to the right,try to make it as close to the wall as possible,then side-shift left,it should give you enough air to Barrel Roll
In fact that BR isn't very advantageous at phantom speed compared to a tight cornering, so there's not a lot of videos with that one on youtube.
However, i showed it on that very old video ;) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MApEiE7g3Mk

[D_1998_BR]

In fact that BR isn't very advantageous at phantom speed compared to a tight cornering

Seems pretty good on the video! Never thought of it that way...Also never tried it in phantom,either lol.

It helps me a lot on venom or flash races,since,from 100,2-10 people know how to perform it

It's so unknown that I was racing against TF some days ago (weeks,to be exact).I did it on the first lap and overtook TF,then he passed me back and performed it on the second lap! Not sure if he already knew about this or if he just missed on the first lap,but that was a "Teacher" moment for me :g

[terra-wrists]

i see video make me crazy. i never do like this XBARNSTERSX. some player very good not for beat :( i try for make this br i scare it for me. sorry no good english you not understand it. :(

[Killercrusher232]

@terra-wrists I love the barrel roll shortcuts... until i get reset by an invisble wall before landing...:frown:

[SoA_Booney]

cheeky triple on sebenco, havent seen anyone else pulling it off online :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUJJr8Vrxc
0.21 - i take no credit :L

[amplificated]

Neat one, don't think I've seen it either :)

[feisar rocket]

cheeky triple on sebenco, havent seen anyone else pulling it off online :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUJJr8Vrxc
0.21 - i take no credit :L

U murdered the controler ;) ;)

I can only do half of those. Good job!

I swear, was the message was from me...?

[D_1998_BR]

I only did that barrel roll once,booney.Speed lap ^^

Couldn't beat that time yet,i do the 2 first ones,but the 3rd came out in accident,as i was just lining my ship to get the speed pad down there :P

[Colonel]

I found something online today (apologies if this is common knowledge but it's new to me). I was doing a Flash SR at Ubermall... did the boost BR at the bridge and I clipped one of the balconies of the building on the right hand side, enabling me to get get a double BR.

I've tried to replicate it offline in SL mode but with no success. I did manage it in two consecutive races online though.

[D_1998_BR]

That's exactly what I do in Phantom,if it really is what i'm thinking