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XR_GTR
1st August 2011, 05:14 AM
So I just ran a 99 lap Speed Lap session at Sebenco Climb (reverse) with Fury-spec FEISAR on Phantom class. Best lap?

23.85.

I'm upset.

Very upset.

I'm upset because I know I should be better than this. Two weeks ago I couldn't finish a lap on this track without need for autopilot. At the rate I've improved I should be able to post a better time than a lousy 23.85, even with something as slow as the FEISAR. And... I can't fly better than that.

Out of all of those 99 laps:
- None of them were perfect laps.
- I missed the barrel roll off the first jump at least 60% of the time.
- My best lap had only two barrel rolls; one after the first turn and another going off the top of the climb.
- Of the 10 laps I ran without using turbo, I could only go under 24 seconds three times.

I should probably stop playing before I throw my controller against the wall. Speed Lap sessions tick me off more than a bad day playing COD at my friend's house.

AspenExcel
1st August 2011, 05:31 AM
Patience and practice! Always best to take a break and come back to it later. It might sound lame, but maybe practice on the slower classes too. Btw, Feisar is by no means a slow ship! I've been putting out some top times with the HD version too. ;)

tug_14
1st August 2011, 05:31 AM
be cool ^^
u can try to make lap without br to get the line
when u'll be right , put 1 br
and when u'll be right put 2 br
and watch this
http://www.youtube.com/user/BADTESTERZ#p/u/3/0amdv58joow
im sure to read u have improve it in few hours ^^

blackwiggle
1st August 2011, 05:59 AM
Sebenco is one of those tracks that it really helps if you use side shift to help you get & keep the best lines.
If you are not side shifting then that is one of the major reasons for little progress.
Where are you using your turbo?
Best place is as you start exiting the tunnel, you shouldn't even need to nose up, your craft should be at a point where you can just start seeing through the chicane and you know if you use your turbo you won't hit the roof, use the turbo then and you should be at the correct angle to just fly over it, don't forget to BR while in the air.

XR_GTR
1st August 2011, 06:07 AM
On the Forwards version I always turbo right after the tunnel, but here I'm talking about the reversed version... where I also happen to turbo right after the tunnel.

Colonel
1st August 2011, 09:48 AM
I'd have a break from it if I were you, you'll just end up bursting a blood vessel. You've had the patience to do a 99 lap run, which is commendable (I've never got above 50). Try another track for a while - or even another mode, nail some detonator for a bit or something. Then go back to Sebenco in a few days and I guarantee you'll see an inprovement :)

kanar
1st August 2011, 10:07 AM
Well as Unctuous said, patience & practice. After 7499 laps, I got 20.74 & I still have a good margin imho. Remember, wipeout HD is one of the hardest game ever!

Gaddafi also said something important; mix your gameplay, then go back in a few days. On a "biological" side, i should say your brain need to adapt to the track, I mean he must develop new synapsis between neurons so it taking a couple of time... lol I'm not a scientist, so it's not correct... But not too far from reality I think. I'm speed lapping 'til day one, I'm not gifted at all regarding reflexes & so on, but I practiced to death (more than 1500h yeah I'm a wacko) & finally managed to improve my brain functionalities in term of reflexes. Well I feel a bit stupid now, cos' it looks like I'm soo bored in my real life to do that ah ah, but hey I'm an hardcore gamer, so be it, & at least I enjoyed the ride... And I'm still enjoying it ;)

leungbok
1st August 2011, 10:26 AM
Reverse ? Damn, you pass me again ! :brickwall
;)



but I practiced to death (more than 1500h yeah I'm a wacko) & finally managed to improve my brain functionalities in term of reflexes
Reallyyyy ? I suspect some illegal products, you wanna fool us !! :D

kanar
1st August 2011, 10:32 AM
A fight to death, 'til the end my friend! WipeoutZone, home of the WipEout hardcore gamer since 2002 :D And lol, only soft doping like Red Bull & so on...

MyNameIsBom
1st August 2011, 10:33 AM
Maybe Hellfire's Tutorials might help ^_^
Keep trying man, don't give up! I was told by someone that "I should have determination and perseverance" I believe you should too :)

Edit: added new tags ;)

leungbok
1st August 2011, 10:34 AM
@kanar. grrr, nice time !!
But don't dare try to beat my modesto laptime ! :bomb :D

amplificated
1st August 2011, 10:37 AM
... After 7499 laps...

Holy F***. :eek

MyNameIsBom
1st August 2011, 10:40 AM
I don't even own a ps3, but I've managed to race over 1000 laps.... Mainly ubermall and sebenco... My two favourites ;)
oh and 20+ laps eliminators... Haha good times :D

blackwiggle
1st August 2011, 10:22 PM
On Sebenco reverse I turbo pretty much as soon as I've lined up after going around the first left, when you land you usually get enough height to do another turbo almost immediately, then veer left to run over the multiple speed pads in the tunnel....nose up and yet another turbo if you can [I don't always do that one], just before the next left that starts you heading down.

bazzman32
2nd August 2011, 12:28 PM
Aww man

Sebenco is my worst track ever,its got to be one of the hardest hd tracks there is so instead of throwing your controller against the wall why not aim a bit lower and try a different track my friend ??? :+, sebenco needs shiftology to get a good time.don't give up

leungbok
2nd August 2011, 02:15 PM
"shiftology" ? :eek

Edit/ : Ok ! I think i got it, but it's more a "flashology" technic if i'm right ! XR_GTR speaks of phantom speed, pitch helps more than sideshifts on sebenco at that speed ! ;)

F.E.I.S.A.R
2nd August 2011, 02:52 PM
Shiftology->the new enlightened teachings of...Pilonetics...
I've been swamped that I cannot even take my FEISAR HD for a ride! :(

ion harvest
3rd August 2011, 07:01 AM
Holy F***. :eek

thats some crazy lappage :eek


"shiftology" ? :eek

Edit/ : Ok ! I think i got it, but it's more a "flashology" technic if i'm right !

shiftology: the science of out shifting the shiftyest side shifters in a seriously shifty race without shitting yourself when you side shift into a shitty situation :D

flashology: perfecting shiftology ;) (see above)

someone add that to wikipedia.

:paperbag

bazzman32
4th August 2011, 12:40 PM
"shiftology" ? :eek

Edit/ : Ok ! I think i got it, but it's more a "flashology" technic if i'm right ! XR_GTR speaks of phantom speed, pitch helps more than sideshifts on sebenco at that speed ! ;)

Oooh sorry oh gr8 1,I was just trying to help a struggling pilot.I didn't realize I could not comment on phantom league I stand corrected sir,shiftopllogies to you.:| PEACE :nod

leungbok
4th August 2011, 01:12 PM
I only wondered what was that "shiftology" thing, before i realised it was about sideshifts, that's all.
And my comment only said that pitch helps more than sideshifts on sebenco at that speed that's all ! If i'm wrong anyone can correct me on this, it's a democratic forum !
Curly's credo : Let's be friends

blackwiggle
4th August 2011, 01:41 PM
Shifting what?
Sorry seem to have gone off course...hick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkS169P_Eeo

Can't be bothered, listen to this "young ones"...says it all.:rock

bazzman32
4th August 2011, 05:02 PM
I only wondered what was that "shiftology" thing, before i realised it was about sideshifts, that's all.
And my comment only said that pitch helps more than sideshifts on sebenco at that speed that's all ! If i'm wrong anyone can correct me on this, it's a democratic forum !
Curly's credo : Let's be friends

i am always friends:P,kanar asked me to make more of an effort in the forum so ime trying my best lolz but ime not very good at this sort of stuff.give me a chance man:+ , i will give you a friend request and you can show old bazz how friendly you really are.PEACE:rock

leungbok
4th August 2011, 05:05 PM
request accepted ! ;)

bazzman32
4th August 2011, 07:10 PM
GReat great great :+ sir modesto of heights he he hoping to get some phantom tips and or lessons from a young veteran lol Peace man:rock