Pulse- easier than Pure?

[Ebeb]

Up until recently, I was never really into any Wipeout games besides Pulse. But when I started playing Pure, it felt to me as though Pulse was much easier.
Phantom in Pulse doesn't feel nearly as fast to me as it does in Pure, and the tracks in Pulse seem a lot easier than the ones in Pure (with the exception of Platinum Rush- I hate that track).
That said, I do like Pure, it just seems more challenging for me. I think that Pulse is a great game for novice pilots (like myself) to start off on, just because it feels easier.
So, is it just me, or does anyone else feel that Pulse, as a whole, is a much easier game?

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Well, most hardcore fans of the series will tell you that Pure is easier (because it's more like the older games), but personally I find Pulse much easier, especially considering it's useless AI :lol.
Pulse also has very "direct" handling compared to other Wipeouts, which can be easier for some people (especially those not used to the "floaty" Wipeout style).
I'm surprised that you feel Pure is faster though - you're only the 2nd person I know of to have said that. I find Pure frustratingly slow, even on Phantom, while Pulse feels like the fastest Wipeout to me.

[kaori]

Hey no, I'm an hardcore PSP player, and I say Pure is harder than Pulse !

The IA in Pure is crazy ! Their first lap are too fast, then, you can pick your opponents up one by one or two by two. In Pulse, the IA is more human. (dirty and violent lol)

And the handling in Pure is harder than Pulse too, because when you turn, you lost lot of speed, and acceleration is bad, so you have to tend your lines in order to no lost seconds by packets !

[Temet]

Agreed, Pure is way harder than Pulse!
Pulse handling is "flying for dummies". Pure is more technical, AI is harder, tracks are better and there are tons of free packs with more tracks and ships and musics.
The issues with Pure are the disruptor that really ruins tons of races and the fact that it takes AGES to gain some speed when you're hit... This is soooo frustrating... BR are also harder to do, they often fail.

But it's clear that Pulse is faster than Pure man ;)

The advantage of Pulse is there are several various modes to play, and of course the online gaming ;)

[Frances_Penfold]

I agree with several recent posters, Pure is more difficult than Pulse...

1. Pure has more complex handling
2. Pure has harder AI
3. Pure has more technical courses

One way that Pulse is more difficult is speed, especially on Phantom.

Love both games though, especially for time trials :)

[Ebeb]

Seems like everyone thinks that Pulse is faster than Pure. I think I'll compare the two later today; maybe it's just in my head. :?

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Maybe it's all in our heads too. :lol
According to the guys who made it, WOHD is the same speed as Pulse, but I could swear it feels much slower.

[ACE-FLO]

Hey no, I'm an hardcore PSP player, and I say Pure is harder than Pulse ! Yeah, Pulse was a lot more intuitive, but thats coz you feel closer to the ground in Pulse, whereas in Pure, it is floatier - the physics are truer to how a wipeout game really should play like... I mean, In Pure, you had to take notice of how and when to pitch - more so than in pulse I feel. And the effects of pitching in pure were a lot more apparent in gameplay too. For example, pitching up would slow you down and give you lift in a much more unpredictable way, because the physics of the game simulated a realer environment imo... Just my op :)


The IA in Pure is crazy ! Their first lap are too fast, then, you can pick your opponents up one by one or two by two. In Pulse, the IA is more human. (dirty and violent lol) Yeah, again I agree! Seems that Pure was a lot more orientated to the truer fan base because of it. It wasn't a very "pick up and play" type title whereas I feel that Pulse definitely was. But Pure was the better game, if it had online multiplayer - it would have been still enjoyed online to this day - I have no doubt about that!


And the handling in Pure is harder than Pulse too, because when you turn, you lost lot of speed, and acceleration is bad, so you have to tend your lines in order to no lost seconds by packets !

Exactly, Pure required you to understand the delicate physics involved in each calculated manuver, requires one to practice the tracks a lot more before one felt confident in challenging the uber freak bastard AI pilots :lol

But one thing I have to say, I preferred Pulse, because of online MP... AI is not real at the end of the day...

OT : Bruce Lee Quote "Boards, don't hit back"... lol :banzai

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

I agree - Pure is harder to approach for a beginner, and takes a lot of practice just to not be :turd at it:lol, but I do think that they kind of level out on difficulty at the higher levels of play. I can tell you it certainly wasn't a "pick up and play" sort of game when I was trying to beat some of those TTs on Pulse!:eek
They're both great once you're used to them though, and both worth owning. :)

[ACE-FLO]

Yeah, those TTees are impossible, especially now that you've set them! ;) you did good too mate, proud to have raced with you during the boom time of yesteryear... and agreed here also, both games are equally worth owning, as they both have their merits! :)

[kaori]

Hey ACE, now you have a PS3, you are able to play WipEout Pure on adhoc Party with us !

[Temet]

I can too !!!
... just I didn't play Pure since ages :p

[ACE-FLO]

Hey Kaori, Id love to do the ad-hoc for Pure, but my PSP is ... er ... broken if you know what I am saying ;) I'm trying to fix it but it's seriously not having any of it form me ... i may have to purchase another, we'll see :)

[Frances_Penfold]

Has anybody tried to use PULSE with the PS3 application (adhoc party)?

Just wondering if we will be able to "continue the party" when servers for Pulse eventually shut down...

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

NightArh tried it and said it worked really well. I guess it still depends on the PSN (and in my case, actually buying a PS3 lol), but that will likely stay up for a lot longer than the Pulse servers. If only Xlink Kai wasn't so impossible, I'd use that...

[kaori]

adhoc Party accept "broken" PSP :lol, I've played with leungbok who doesn't take care of his PSP :mr-t

[Ebeb]

Seems like everyone thinks that Pulse is faster than Pure. I think I'll compare the two later today; maybe it's just in my head. :?

Well, I finally did compare the two games, and I agree- Pure is slower. Maybe I thought Pure was faster because it had more technical tracks, or because it was harder- I don't know.
I also agree that the handling in Pure is more realistic- as realistic as piloting a hovercraft could possibly be. But due to the more technical tracks of Pure, I still think that Pulse is the easier game.

[WolfKill01]

Now that I think about it, Pure was harder then pulse. But what's weird is that I'm far better at pure then I am at pulse. Maybe it's because of my past wipeout experience...hmmmm :? Anyway, Pure was fast in it's own special way. True Pulse is faster in the sense that the ships have greater speed, but navigating pure's tracks without a hitch gave it its own sense of exhilirating speed.

[kaori]

You're right WolfKill, I've already told that, but on Modesto Heights, when you hit all speed pads in Pure, you have an amazing speed sensation that you can't feel in HD, in spite off the max speed is lower in Pure.

[OBH]

Im currently playing pulse again due to only being able to play HD single player, and i lent pulse to my bro mr.phlanj so he can play online.

deffinitely harder, they drift!! :hyper

[Mad-Ice]

At Osama: You mean playing Pure again? Well you have to practise both of course for the EWC 2010!


Well, most hardcore fans of the series will tell you that Pure is easier (because it's more like the older games), but personally I find Pulse much easier, especially considering it's useless AI :lol.
Pulse also has very "direct" handling compared to other Wipeouts, which can be easier for some people (especially those not used to the "floaty" Wipeout style).
I'm surprised that you feel Pure is faster though - you're only the 2nd person I know of to have said that. I find Pure frustratingly slow, even on Phantom, while Pulse feels like the fastest Wipeout to me.

Well I am considering myself as a hardcore fan of the series, yet I think that Pure is more difficult than Pulse, just like you MSSA. Because of the more sliding, floathy feel of the ships and more wibbly-wobbly track design in Pure, it is so much more difficult to get the last 4 laps in phantom within 0.1 sec. I have far more TT races with the 4 last laps in phantom within 0.1 sec in Pulse than in Pure.

Greetz Mad-Ice

[XpanDrome2097]

Easier ot not easier...the only thing that I don't like in Pulse is properly the A.I. :
at the hardest difficulty level, the rivals transform the track into a battlefield...no pilot ability, only pathetic attacks on your shield...f****n' maggots :paperbag:g!

They abuse about mines and bombs :turd...

[Frances_Penfold]

Well, at least there isn't so much rubber-banding in Pulse as there is Pure. That's a plus, I guess ;)

[wich]

I started wipeouting with pure and got stuck at rapier, then when pulse came out I played the game with a vengeance and was able to complete the game all the way relatively easily, which I think is because 1. I already had my pure experience and 2. pulse is easier than pure.

Two reasons why I think pulse is easier than pure:
1. More direct riding, pure has much more floating, which is more difficult to get used to and judge correctly.
2. AI is much busier blasting each other out of the race, usually setting rubbish times. I actually find races in pulse on medium AI level are sometimes more challenging than hard AI level.

[OveReAction]

Its fun to play Eliminator in Pulse. :)

[JABBERJAW]

pulse is like a "grip" game. You grip even with the loosest of ships, never slide out, but the other ships hit you with weapons way too much to keep the race close.

Pure allows you to get away, it is possible to lap the ships on some tracks in pure. The physics are way harder to keep a line, imo the way wipeout should be. Mad-ice hit it on the head with the track design as well.

Not that pulse is "easy", there are some tracks that are downright mean.

[Haywire_Guy]

Pure was the worst game i had ever played at the time, not because it was in any way, shape or form REMOTELY bad; it was because the game looked so good and had everything i wanted in it but i SUCKED. I literally couldnt get past the first grid. I kept trying and i did finally get past it, but i couldnt get any further than that. Still have the UMD within the depths of my cupboards, save file still at that 2nd hexagon.

Pulse was much easier (13th hexagon), the ships handle better and the tracks straighter xD. Btw pure and pulse were my first 2 respective wipeout games i had ever played.

I cant imagine it to be a frequent issue but anyone here ever had that exp. before? Like, your dream come true game and you cant do **** to play it properly.

[Anonanon]

Just thought I'd pop in an talk about my experience with Wipeout games. The older PSX games and Pure were pretty damn hard for me. First Wipeout game that I've actually played through entirely was Pulse. Pulse has super sharp grip and response time, making it the easiest for new players to pick up and learn. I could see it from a veteran's perspective and I could see why everyone hates it. But it's a great way to get the ball rolling before you graduate to Wipeout HD. After you play through HD and HD Fury on Elite Phantom, Pure will be MUCH easier. In fact, I'm having fun breezing through Pure. The only problem is, the very non-linear progression in Pure is very confusing. To unlock Flash (it shouldn't even be locked :< ), you need to do Venom Alpha, then Venom Beta, then Venom Ascension (which is locked and hidden as well). I don't think I'd figure it out without a guide. Wipeout 2097 and Wipeout 3 were easier for me than Pure for some odd reason. The only thing is, an analog is practically required because you need to pull your nose up on almost every corner, where as Pure, HD and definitely Pulse, you hardly need to pull your nose up to tackle a corner.

[Xpand]

I agree. Pulse is much easier than Pure. I feel more chalenged by playing Pure than Pulse, like I said in another thread: the tail slide of the ships is much better in Pure, giving more of a chalenge to control the fury of the craft... :g