Online Etiquette

[Rezatron]

I'm sure most of the members here good online etiquette when playing WOHD and running a room. Nonetheless, what are some things you have noticed others doing online that has pissed you off?

Most of the things listed below i've only noticed noobs or unintelligent ignorami doing. This thread was created in hopes of reducing poor online behavior yet most of those responsible surely don't visit this forum...


Starting a race while others are picking a ship resulting in using a ship you don't like/aren't familiar with (and playing poorly as a result)
Changing speed classes and starting the game immediately (does not give players time to change ships or exit the room)
Changing game modes and starting the match immediately (does not give players time to exit the room/change ships)
Drastically changing speed classes (like from Venom to Phantom) or number of laps and quickly starting a race
In a race, players that target the 1st place ship after they have been lapped (potentially ruining World Records)
To a lesser extent, picking the same track over and over again (or simply picking noob favorite Moa Therma, enough with that track! :- :lol
Quitting a tournament after the first race

[djKyoto]

Techincally only one of those is actually in-race, of which is perfectally resonable. Of course you would try and target the leader, if you want to win, duh.

Don't have a issue with the other points made, as people I race with are awesome dudes whos stick with phantom anyway.

[yeldar2097]

Targeting the leader is all bine and dandy but imho if you get lapped you ain't gonna win so kindly sod off and stop shooting me :D

Thankfully most of the people I race with aren't lapworthy :g

[Rezatron]

:? You need to reread 6.

[blackwiggle]

Flying around the track in reverse and firing at on coming craft [in a non eliminator race] because they are getting their butt kicked in a tournament is the worse of bad etiquette IMHO.

Switching from standard racing to eliminator or zone is a PITA if you can't get out of it,if you want to change race types start another room.

[yeldar2097]

@reza:
One or me? :P

Ontopic: Leaving your PS3 for more than a few minutes while you're still in a room. Not only are you hogging a place/getting in the way during the race,
you will also inevitably end up as host and poor bastards like myself looking for a cheeky race here n' there will join your room only to find that you aren't actually at home (to fulfil your hosting duties)
because you went out to buy milk and/or cigarettes. SORT YOUR LIFE OUT YOU ANONYMOUS CRETIN (says the addicted WOHD player... :P)!!


For someone special: ...And while your at it (sorting your life out), don't ****ing quit the race on the last lap if you're not going to win (ESPECIALLY if there's only 2 people in the room).

...and don't quit after the first corner just because I overtake you...

.....do not subsequently send me messages accusing me of sharing my connection with half of china, resetting my modem at the start of the race,
having a permanent turbo cheat and beating up little old ladies in corner shops. apparently this can be proven merely by further implying that everyone who you beat has a "real" connection while anyone who beats you is a chronic cheater.

....do not then ask me what my favourite games, songs and films are once you have lost the argument. What's the point?

Sit down, shut up, sod off, you tosser

/rant

:g

[Rezatron]

Meant for djKyoto, we posted at the same time.

[IH8YOU]

Targeting the leader is all bine and dandy but imho if you get lapped you ain't gonna win so kindly sod off and stop shooting me :D

Thankfully most of the people I race with aren't lapworthy :g

I'm telling you - THAT WAS MY ROOMATE! I stepped out for a piss because I hated that track - and he picked up the controller. By the time I said no wait - he nailed you.

I felt bad, until I found out you set a world record that race - even WITH being shot.

Now... I'm actually kinda glad he did that. No way in hell I'd stand a chance against your record if you subtracted 3 more seconds from it. :eek

lol - at our second comment Yeldar - I already know who you're talking about - and it wasn't even prompted in the least by your actions - he started that when I was racing him and DD - and then when I raced you and him. He really loves you guys, it appears.

[yeldar2097]

teehee. I'd completely forgotten about that actually :lol

I bet at least IH8YOU will know what I'm talking about with regards my rant :g

[djKyoto]

Meant for djKyoto, we posted at the same time.

I don't really care. If by some way the host keeps picking the same room (which they usually never do), I just join or make another room.

Drama.

[ProblemSolver]

I experienced most of these issues in sub-phantom speed classes. In phantom,
and while playing against some high birds, there are virtually no issues at
all. Personally, I usually change races quickly since most of the top pilots
are rather sticky to their craft and wanna go to the next race asap. But if
I see that someone is about to select another craft I do extend the time.

[amplificated]

Yeah I kinda get annoyed when I join a room and the host keeps on picking the same track over and over again.

I'm not one to talk about online etiquette though, I'm usually online to enjoy a few minutes and if I stuff up on my own accord or if I suffer a particularly brutal attack I usually end up leaving right away :p happens too often as well, lol. It's just annoying and probably a bad habit from my attempts at elite phantom AI where I'd immediately restart if I got hit early, *shakes fist*. But I usually only play single race, wouldn't do that if I was in a tourney.

I personally like it when the host starts as soon as possible though, I don't think the ships are so different that it matters all that much unless it's phantom, where I find it definitely helps to be in a ship whose particular quirks you're familiar with. Sometimes the host waits way too long, and that's way more annoying than being able to play the game with a ship you're slightly less okay with. Playing > waiting, especially when the results aren't that important, which I find is most of the time. For me anyway.


I don't really care. If by some way the host keeps picking the same room (which they usually never do), I just join or make another room.

Drama.

I think he meant re-read 5th rather than 6th, as that was the only one addressing the in-game issue as you pointed out, and while you said it isn't that big a deal to go for 1st to win, Rezatron was referring to people who have been lapped and are going for the 1st placed player just to stuff them up. It's almost like griefing in a team game I guess, not very sportsmanlike... never seen it happen personally, but then again I don't think I've lapped that many people either :P

[guillaume]

A good read:
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5327

[Lance]

lol :+

[crawdad62]

Yeah I sort of made post awhile back. It really was about the racing. I was pleased when I read this post because it had to do (at least at the start) about running a room. And I agree with all of Rezatron's opening post. I hate everyone of those. Most of the time I'm using Feisar or Harimau so ship changing really isn't an issue. Or a room where the track never changes.... I'll just leave after a couple on the same track where I know that's only going to continue. But all in all that list happens and it certainly bothersome.

[Rezatron]

I think he meant re-read 5th rather than 6th, as that was the only one addressing the in-game issue as you pointed out, and while you said it isn't that big a deal to go for 1st to win, Rezatron was referring to people who have been lapped and are going for the 1st placed player just to stuff them up. It's almost like griefing in a team game I guess, not very sportsmanlike... never seen it happen personally, but then again I don't think I've lapped that many people either :P

Yes exactly, thanks. To add to that point, a pilot in dead last should not be dropping mines and bombs IMO. Nothing worse that losing time on a great run due to this. I've even been eliminated once when I was in 1st place and hit a bomb dropped by someone in last place 20+ seconds behind... :?

[Darkdrium777]

If my room isn't full, I count ten seconds to wait to see if another player joins. If someone does, this counter resets. This until the room is full, or no players join the race, then I start.
I also wait until everyone has selected their ships, though it can sometimes happen that I start the race just as someone enters.

[Aeroracer]

@Rezatron ..i agree with all your points cos they are plain fact and not really open to discussion apart from moa is good track as well as the others unless of course the player just picks it over and over and bore everyone..

only other thing that annoys me is....cant thinkof anything..


luckily most of the above dosnt happen to me cos i play nice phantoms players off this site and they all play with pride nyway:)

[afatsuoM]

I agree about the host of a game. When being the host, please wait for players to change ships, or to leave the game when de mode or speed changes. Just a few seconds is enough.

But I don't agree on the last player not using weapons when being lapped. If I'm last, I'm probably slower than the rest. Then the only way to make te race "more challenging" for all the other players is to attack them, regardless of where they are on the track. It's part of the game. I allways drop mines and bombs in last position. :bomb

[XBARNSTERX]

@afatsuoM, i sure we'd all like to thank you for that, cheers:+

[crawdad62]

I've never been lapped so I really don't know how to take that. I guess if you're that far behind it's unlikely that you're going to improve your position much if at all, however you may affect the leader and I can see why that's frowned upon by many. But being in last (something I'm familiar with) you certainly shouldn't just give up. I could see on a longer race, say a 20 lapper where someone that is lapped could conceivably get back into it.

Are people actually getting lapped on typical 3-6 lap races? I mean are they getting lapped while racing and not just standing still waiting to be lapped so they can take out the leader? I guess I'm neither fast enough to lap someone or slow enough to be lapped.

[Aeroracer]

But I don't agree on the last player not using weapons when being lapped. If I'm last, I'm probably slower than the rest. Then the only way to make te race "more challenging" for all the other players is to attack them, regardless of where they are on the track. It's part of the game. I allways drop mines and bombs in last position. :bomb
i cant see how dropping bombs or mines in last can make up the race.if your that far behind that your bombs and mines would hit the leader you are 100% guaranted to lose the race..i consider this poor sportsmanship as all you could possibly achive is interfering with a potential race record.but you would still come last.

i do agree with you saying about making the game more challegingin a weird kind of way.As lapped lossr players who are last that drop bombs to mess race leaders times do tend to get intentionally targeted by the players on the following races which makes staying alive the challenge as you have a couple of elites shooting at you.you may also get called a few things in the chat rooms too.Imo the game is too hard so last thing you want is to anger other players become unpopular and make it harder for yourself.:)

@xbarnsterx...loli agree:P

[OBH]

i can totally understand those being lapped who shoot me, i mean id do exactly the same.

but my god, nothings more annoying than being on fiiiiiire..... just to be shot by a lapped ship on the final lap.

Many naughty words get shouted :dizzy

[Aeroracer]

Lol..new things i want to add to the online etiquette thread that bug me and probally many others here....

1 as already mentioned ...the hosts that mess with options and do not give players anytime to accept..like venom to phantom etc.

2 so called elite players who will happily sit in my room play many games with me they are winning every one and are happy, only to run or quit as soon as i beat them once. a real player should be able to take a loss better imo.

3 giver uppers..a small minority of good players are guilty of this sometimes where they make mistake on like first corner then just give up leave their ship crashed their for whole race in middle of track for me to hit when i go around the track..poor sportanship again.

4 my pet hate is fake id's.to be honest i think about 40% of the players online are using fake psn id's.Fake psn id meaning..you really are probally been playing this game for a long time and would probally be level 30to60.
i often play players under rank 10 who can acheive top 100 race times yet checking their gaming details they have like 0% completion for the game meaning they have not even managed to do a hundred BR's yet.. yet they are apparent masters of the games in less than a few games.
Yes i have been told rank means nothing in this game. so how comes so many players are using fake id's then if rank is that unimportant.
to me rank is important cos when i play a rank 60 player i know i am going to have a hard game 9 out of 10 times..but when i play a rank 1 i may have a easy game or i may have a hard game with some dikhead who didnt have the balls to use their real psn id.cos thats all i see when i play fake psn id users.. is cowards who are scared to lose under their true name or players who dont cut it on their current rank.

These players i am talking about are fakes..i am not talking about low ranked players who do not play online much yet are good.i can tell the diffence cos their game progress in thier profile will cleary show what type of player they are and their names will usally be well known amongst other players with their names littered all over the place.

Fake psn id annoy most genuine players i have spoken too imo as their is no reason in wipeout for it.no global rankings for online so why bother..

[eLhabib]

@ fake id's: I wouldn't think that most people who are fast necessarily need to have a high rank. Some people just don't play as often. I'm only at rank 26 myself. I wouldn't assume that all of them are fake id's. The ranking system as it is is simply broken, there being people with rank 50 and above who have no racing skill at all.

[yeldar2097]

yeah i was never sure what the point was except for a semi-quantitative value denoting how much you play...hmmm

[Darkdrium777]

Rank is definitely not representative of a player's skill, so forget about it. Forget about gauging player skill by the number of hours played online. Someone can have played 1 hour online and be excellent, others played 500 hours and still suck
If they choose to play on a rank 1 account for whatever reason, it shouldn't change anything for you. Just beat them, that should be your only goal.
And it pisses you off? Why? You have some sort of stereotype in your mind that says: "all low rank players must suck except a few exceptions when they have 80% trophy completion; and all high rank players must be good" ? That's silly. Treat everyone you see equally and maybe you won't get so bothered by the number that accompanies players wherever they go online.

[KGB]

Sometimes it's nice to fly incognito now and again, I have done it myself in the past and there is definitely less pressure on you. If you are playing it all the time and know a lot of pilots sometimes you can't play for yapping and can get in the way of a good session. I never did it to trick anyone or because I'm a coward, just for a bit of space that's all.

The Ma yuffies and roastbeefkillers of this world are fine by me apart from robbing me of places on the leaderboards :)

Never played you yet jasmin-jade, where are you hiding? :P

[OBH]

Rank has always been the whos-got-no-job-'o'-meter.

[eLhabib]

haha that's brilliant! :+

[abukii]

LoL...thats great!!

Online etiquette should be adhered to regardless of game. I cant tell you how many nasty messages Ive gotten stating Im a cheap, cheating American...its funny at first, but rather aggrevating when its done over and over. I just keep me mouth shut and play...I suppose it could be worse tho.

(Lvl 28 for the record:g)

[Aeroracer]

i am not talking about the value of rank, i am talking only about fake id's online and how sad i think many of them are.

@elhabib....100% True and agree with you but onine is still full of sadcases with fake id's



@ yeldar..True i agree too but rank 50 is more liekly to be good than bad so it can indicate to a degree.


Rank is definitely not representative of a player's skill, so forget about it. Forget about gauging player skill by the number of hours played online. Someone can have played 1 hour online and be excellent, others played 500 hours and still suck

true to a degree but your example is greatly exagerated im afraid.



And it pisses you off? Why? You have some sort of stereotype in your mind that says: "all low rank players must suck except a few exceptions when they have 80% trophy completion; and all high rank players must be good" ? That's silly. Treat everyone you see equally and maybe you won't get so bothered by the number that accompanies players wherever they go online.

cos it insults my intelligence trying to pretend to be another player by using another made up id..oh and its pretty sad too almost like a football player who wasnt good enough for manchester united so he dresses up as a 10 year old to join the local kids side so he can look real good.i have been beaten by genuine low rank players who i know are genuine.its the principle behind it.unfortunatley some players ego are just so big that they are just to scared to play under thir real names and hide behind fake id's, knowing this is irritating.




Sometimes it's nice to fly incognito now and again, I have done it myself in the past and there is definitely less pressure on you. If you are playing it all the time and know a lot of pilots sometimes you can't play for yapping and can get in the way of a good session. I never did it to trick anyone or because I'm a coward, just for a bit of space that's all.

Never played you yet jasmin-jade, where are you hiding? :P

wow..some honesty, and a valid reason. unfortunatly i dont think all of the other 20000 fake id's users have the same valid reason as you.

i play lots online im rank 29 now and have played for 2 months.if you want games i would be happy to play you as i am still learning and need to improve.

[OBH]

its pretty sad too almost like a football player who wasnt good enough for manchester united so he dresses up as a 10 year old to join the local kids side so he can look real good.

As funny as that was! its still exaggerated too my friend :)

[Aeroracer]

yeah i know..i just wanted to write it cos it sounded funny..:):)

[Lance]

Didn't sound funny to me. Very different senses of humour, apparently.

[Aeroracer]

why didn't you find it funny lance..please dont tell me you dress as a ten year old and play for the kids football team..:P

[Darkdrium777]

That sounded very creepy and wrong. :blarg

[Aeroracer]

only if we replies back and says "gee how did you know"

[Lance]

I dislike American football, love Aussie rules football [way more action], and find international football/soccer a touch dull. I'm not in good enough condition to play any of them, and not nearly heavy enough to play American football. Maybe if I weighed another 50 or 60 pounds, I could be the goal kicking specialist.

[blackwiggle]

You would get players that have changed their PSN name for various reasons [Silverfox for example].

Others that could have changed to a PS3 slim and might not be able to race under their previous name.

And yet others that have bought the disc version of the game and have only started playing online ,but are good pilots from Pure & Pulse.

I've raced a few in the last couple of days that are pretty good and have only had the game for less than a month.

[Lance]

Some people are just genius game players.

[Aeroracer]

i agree.. there are genuine players who have good reasons to change or create new psn id's..to be honest i have a second one cos i couldnt seem to use my psn id on psp..but its similar to my own and i got it written in my profile.

but i am not talking about the genuine players who have multiple id's i am talking about the many who just do it for the wrong reasons as i stated.

[ProblemSolver]

Good players are always known by their names. But having a type of ranking is
ok, it serves the competition. But I would prefere a ranking system like the
one in MGO, it focuses more on your current activity.

Personally, I play online since two month (since Fury), my rank increased from
1 to 44 as of now. Initially I lost a lot of races coz I wasn't used to the
level and I also wasn't into Speed Lap and things alike, but things have
changed tremendously. I can now compete with the best racers out there who
have virtually spent all their time in SL, TT, and playing online. Well, I
could have used another username to prevent all the initial losses, but I
didn't. I like it to be real and native.

About the Online Etiquette; I was playing a 1vs1 (arms off) on the Fury tracks
with a well known guy, yesterday. After he was about to lose the third race
he was quitting after getting eliminated by himself. But anyways, after a
while he was coming back on my server. So I played with JJAP, natade, fgdk,
Zoth all the Fury tracks, have won 7 out of 8 straight (oh ha! xD), and got a
PN after this session from the person in question. The subject was fu*k and
the body of the message was held in french I don't understand. ;)

But the coolest thing of all are those people parking their craft on the track
such that the collision is still enabled. Wonderful!

[JJPAP]

But the coolest thing of all are those people parking their craft on the track
such that the collision is still enabled. Wonderful!

Yeah, that is always fun :blarg
Like on Sol2 were PS and I encountered too big a problem and got stuck on some "Dummy-Brummy" (what ever) at the same time for hours ...
Well, normally these dead wipers are ghosts, but when ever they´re hit or touched, they turn into big fat cakes .....
Ought to be some kind of truck - like in Formula 1 - who threw these ships with engine probs down the abyss - Sol2 would be perfect for that ... :D
I might even stop dead, just to watch!

[ProblemSolver]

And in the last race he brought me to a stand-still right at the start. lol

[crawdad62]

i am not talking about the value of rank, i am talking only about fake id's online and how sad i think many of them are.

Well you really are talking about the value of rank. That's the only reason you would care about a "fake id" (whatever that is). Otherwise I see absolutely no reason racing someone with a secondary id would bother you unless you simply don't like the names (which again is puzzling).

I mean if you're not concerned with someone who has many many hours of racing under their belt but is racing on a new id I assume you have issues with someone with a 1 rank being so good. At least that's how I'm taking your argument.

[Koleax]

I've only been online a few days, but so far I am very impressed with the quality of competition.

[Rezatron]

I'm going resurrect this topic as it seems to be the best place to put the following:

PSN ID 'gorillale1858' is parking in the wipeout online lobby again. He did this pre-fury to gain rank 50. Of course he doesn't race, he just leaves his PS3 on all day. It a shame you can gain ranks doing this.

He's hosting a 12 track tournament right now, what a surprise. Send him a nice message over PSN if this pisses you off as much as me. :mad:

The good news is that using this method it will probably take until 2020 for him to get rank 100 :D

[crawdad62]

So that's why they do that. I was in a room about a week ago and the host never raced. We had a pretty good time except I kept getting a missile lock on his ship every lap:brickwall

[Aeroracer]

lol..i didnt know thats why they park up race after race..to boost

i wish there was boot off option to kick off players like that..make it so if 2 or3 players select you you get kicked off .your out of game even if your the host.:nod:nod

[shapealot]

ive only got the one account as i cant be bothered logging on under different IDs for different games. ive been trying to race phantom the past week, i havnt bothered since i got my platinum over 6 months ago. i can hold my own at the slower speeds but phantom is gona take some gettin used to, i was in a game with connavar, saturn returns an a few others and i admit i thought im gona giv myself a bad name here coz i keep comin off the track and i dont know my lines at this speed but after a while i wasnt so bad. it was nice to show my face in a race with these guys even if i did suck lol

[il_mago_di_Doz]

There is a player that has also posted on this topic (:nod) that sent me a PM the other day. He said that I won some races just because of the turbos that I got. Why some people can't just lose sometimes? Bah, I thought the "zoners" were more friendly. :blarg

[Task]

In general they are, but there are always exceptions to the rule.
We get a lot of new members here after a new release, and Pulse+HD+Fury has been a bit of a triple-hit-COMBO! to the size of the forum. New pilots don't just come with "zone spirit" pre-installed, it takes a while.
Or maybe they had a bad day.

If the next time you see them online they apologize/take it back, that would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?

And that's the kind of thing that could actually happen.

[ACE-FLO]

And yet others that have bought the disc version of the game and have only started playing online ,but are good pilots from Pure & Pulse.

I've raced a few in the last couple of days that are pretty good and have only had the game for less than a month.

I've won my fair share of online races, lost some too... I bring some skill to HD Fury from Pulse, and it's been exactly a month I've had the game, current rank 34, how are ranks calculated? :?

[il_mago_di_Doz]

In general they are, but there are always exceptions to the rule.
We get a lot of new members here after a new release, and Pulse+HD+Fury has been a bit of a triple-hit-COMBO! to the size of the forum. New pilots don't just come with "zone spirit" pre-installed, it takes a while.
Or maybe they had a bad day.

If the next time you see them online they apologize/take it back, that would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?

And that's the kind of thing that could actually happen.



Yeah, maybe he had a bad day... who knows. I said that just becouse I found a lot of nice people here, so I didn't expect that pm from someone who writes here... It was actually a compliment to the forum and to all the other members :)

[Dark_Phantom_89]

I've won my fair share of online races, lost some too... I bring some skill to HD Fury from Pulse, and it's been exactly a month I've had the game, current rank 34, how are ranks calculated? :?

It's based on the speed class you race at, the position you finish in and the level of your opponents.

I'm assuming that each rank has some sort of points value and there's a formula for working out what "points" you get at the end of each race. Haven't got a clue what the values are though

[yeldar2097]

...so basically it tells you and others how addicted you are :P

[ACE-FLO]

seems Sinus1 is aptly named then, since he breathes wipeout (rank 100) :D

[Dark_Phantom_89]

...so basically it tells you and others how addicted you are :P

In a word... yes :P

[morfeo378]

only addicted to play online, because for example I'm in range 71. that is indifferent for me, but I'm sure many people on this forum with less range has played many more hours than me

[Lance]

Sinus 1 is the name of the slowest speed class of one of the racing teams in KillerLoop, IIRC. Coincidence? Joke? ???

[QjonPL]

I think he's never been seen racing Phantom online, so... ;p

[yeldar2097]

HA! WRONG!

I raced him at phantom once :g

...he left straight after the race finished....

:lol

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

I do not know,but have you ever been sent messages during races? I have.
There was this person whose username is dark1mad(dunno about the capitalization or not).He kept asking me this:
U listen my music?
He was hosting a 12 stage tournament.
The following is(I think)the conversation(I am FEISAR-CSY in this conversation)
Dark1mad:you listen my music?
FEISAR-CSY(me):no.thank you.
dark1mad:my playlist in game.you listen my music?
FEISAR-CSY:I like playing WipEout(i feel that this was the most retarded of this conversation)
dark1mad:I know.do you listen my music?
FEISAR-CSY:huh?
dark1mad:do you have custom playlist?
FEISAR-CSY:I do have my own custom playlist
dark1mad:listen alone or what?
FEISAR-CSY:I listen while playing.why not play a bit?
At round 10 or 11,he quitted the room.
I know I left out some details.The messages I received were received when I was racing.

[eLhabib]

I think he was asking wheter you would be hearing his custom playlist while racing. Which obviously you can't.

[blackwiggle]

I thank Christ [term only,I'm an atheist] that nobody has to suffer the host's play list whilst racing online.
I could think of nothing worse than to have to put up with some of the dire tripe some consider music while racing

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

I think he was asking wheter you would be hearing his custom playlist while racing. Which obviously you can't.

I find that he asking if I could listen to his playlist was quite retarded.I mean,why would anyone want to listen to somebody elses playlist if you already have one?
Anyways,getting messages between races is just(to me)plain rude

[mic-dk]

I frequently has to thank z1r0rei between races for bombing my face. Or laugh at him when I once every 100th race manage to stick some rockets up him on the last lap.

Some friendly flaming between races is part of the fun IMHO, but only between pilots I've raced dozens of times before.

I'll grant you it was a kinda weird question though...

[LurifaxFlux]

OnTopic:
The thing that pisses me off most is when (as TS pointed out in most of the points) the host changes venue or settings and starts the race immidiately without letting you change ship (or leave if you want to).
Using the same venue too many times is also pretty annoying.

[Koleax]

Yeah, even worse is when, after racing the same venue over and over, they do a 12-race tournament with that same track and start it without giving anyone the chance to take notice.

Yes that actually happened to me and with Ubermall Reverse. If there's any track that really feels ass-backwards it's that one.

[Aeroracer]

I always wait to see if players need to change thier ships and always wait when i change speed and setting to allow players to leave....

if i lose on my favourite tack i dont keep replaying it till i win then quit and run

i always praise good players who beat me or players who played well..

i never bomb or mine in last position.

i always pick varied tracks forward and reverse and not just my hot tracks..so everyone gets something they like....


i dont let players wait around for long time while im talking nonsence in the chat room with my friends..

i never walk off when im hosting like some do..when i want to finish i will leave session...

this is what i do as i consider it rude to do anything else..but everyone is different this just my way..:nod