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KGB
18th June 2010, 09:45 AM
Ta, with a child on my lap I may add ;)

leungbok
18th June 2010, 09:49 AM
The gods must be smiling down on me, got a great lap in amongst all the dross.

26:63 - 7BR - 9 pads - Fury :D

Nice work !! :clap

brainbeat
18th June 2010, 12:09 PM
I'll miss next weeks as I'm in sunny Somerset hiedi hi holiday camp. Taking my pap and gonna finally play pulse for more than an hr. Gonna set some records 

Dark_Phantom_89
18th June 2010, 09:06 PM
Wow, very impressive stuff KGB - that child must be a good omen for you ;)

Turns out I can't beat yeldar (who was I kidding?) as I can't chain together that double BR as well as get everything else right on the same lap.

yeldar2097
20th June 2010, 10:12 AM
26.32 - 9 Pads - 7BRs - Fury

:)

Dark_Phantom_89
20th June 2010, 01:19 PM
Stop rubbing salt in our wounds yeldar! ;) :robot

I won't be around for the majority of next week as I'm going away for a bit, so I'll post next week's challenge now:

SPEED LAP/VINETA K (FORWARD)/RAPIER/GOTEKI 45

No BSB!

Of course, this weeks challenge will still be active until tomorrow. After that, you can have a stab at this one. I should be back by Friday morning.

KGB
21st June 2010, 04:51 PM
Might have a better chance at getting a decent time for this one, now I can do that double into the tunnel, I'll have a go tomorrow.

Well done Yeldar for last weeks challenge. If only you were still away.....who wants to start a whip round to get him on his way again ;).

yeldar2097
21st June 2010, 05:48 PM
Yup, I'd be well up for that.

Champion idea KGB ^_^

Now where's my money? Hand it over :lol

IDReaper
21st June 2010, 10:48 PM
For SpeedLap/Venita k/Rapier/Goteki45/

21.82 - 8SP - 5BR - HD
UPDATED: 21.52 - 7SP - 6BR - HD

Eh, it's a start xD

KGB
22nd June 2010, 08:27 AM
I have a 20:84 - 6 BR - 9 pads - Fury. Not too bad for this old tank (the ship, not me) ;)

I just can't get a boost/BR at the start.

amplificated
22nd June 2010, 08:38 AM
If I boost-br at the start on this track, it always makes me overshoot the boost anyway. I hate this track so much in SL!

Challenger #001
22nd June 2010, 08:47 AM
Speed Lap > Vineta K Forward > Rapier > Goteki 45 HD

00.22.36, 9 Speed Pads, 3 Barrel Rolls

How can you get six? Five I can possibly see, but not six. o.0

amplificated
22nd June 2010, 09:01 AM
there's at least 8 without using bsb

boost-br into the lap, boost-br at the first pad, hit the peak of the slope for another, br at the cut in the tunnel, br from raised track to the left of the straight before the next tunnel, br down the next cut, br off the lower hill's plateau, which can net you enough speed/air to get another one.

I haven't done this track in a while on rapier so I may be a little off

KGB
22nd June 2010, 09:06 AM
Not sure you can get the one going into the tunnel at the end on this speed.

I found what I think is the perfect example. Maybe the best video I've seen of someone playing the game as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r8e9waI3tw&feature=related. Though I'm loath to say it ;)

amplificated
22nd June 2010, 09:16 AM
Good video :P

I don't know for sure about the G45, but that br definitely can be done with the Furymau and Icaras on rapier.

yeldar2097
22nd June 2010, 10:34 AM
Lol KGB, I love you too :P
Can't believe I put that song over my vid, comedy gold! :g


Anyway....

20.08 - 10 Pads - 6BRs - Fury

FYI the barrel roll into the 2nd tunnel does work with G45. Haven't got it nailed yet, can do it maybe 1 in 10 tries.

Challenger #001
26th June 2010, 04:23 PM
Speed Lap > Vineta K Forward > Rapier > Goteki 45 Fury

00.22.07, 10 Speed Pads, 3 Barrel Rolls

Dark_Phantom_89
28th June 2010, 03:48 PM
21.06 I think it was, with 10 Speed Pads and 5 Barrel Rolls.

Dark_Phantom_89
28th June 2010, 05:12 PM
Week 41 has come to a close - congratulations to yeldar for his victory this week, and kudos to all of those who participated. As usual, your names will all be added to the Hall of Fame Thread (link can be found on the first page.)

This week's criteria is brought to you by our newest regular, Challenger #001. His choice is:

SPEED LAP/TECH DE RA (REVERSE)/PHANTOM/QIREX

Good luck everybody.

leungbok
28th June 2010, 11:17 PM
21.65 8sp 3BR fury

Challenger #001
29th June 2010, 08:23 AM
Speed Lap > Tech De Ra Reverse > Phantom > Qirex Fury

00.22.61, 7 Speed Pads, 2 Barrel Rolls

In other news, does anyone else think that the Fury Qirex is the best improvement over its' HD counterpart?

Dark_Phantom_89
29th June 2010, 10:21 AM
I managed 21.50, 8 SP's, 3BR's, Fury Qirex.

With regards to Challenger's question - I tried this challenge with both the HD and Fury version of Qirex, and I found that I was much more consistent with the Fury version. It feels more stable and a better all-rounder than its HD counterpart. I was having trouble doing the speed boost into the lap with HD (kept scraping the wall,) but it worked like a charm with Fury.

yeldar2097
29th June 2010, 11:18 AM
Struggling this week....

21.47 - 7 Pads - 2BRs - HD Qirex


I must the exception that proves the rule then. As far as stats are concerned I agree the Fury Qirex is much improved over the HD version but MY GOD it's and absolut dog around the track: Can't BR with it, can't stay in a straight line, keep marrying walls. I find it really twitchy and hard to control, kinda the opposite of you guys. The only upgrade that is more of a catasrophic fail is EG-X Fury.

Each to his own I guess, I reckon I'm just weird :lol

P.S. Do the TT challenge this week someone pleeeeeease ^_^

Challenger #001
29th June 2010, 03:36 PM
... Fury Qirex ...Can't BR with it

In Soviet Russia, ship rolls YOU!

Yes, this entire Qirex suggestion was in the hope of getting one of those out. :3

SaturnReturn
29th June 2010, 10:48 PM
...Fury Qirex ...I find it really twitchy and hard to control...

...I reckon I'm just weird :lol

I agree. Feels twitchy to me too. It feels similar to HD Assegai, which is kind of squirmy. Might depend largely on airbrake settings. But you're still weird.;)

OBH
30th June 2010, 07:47 AM
I find Quirex+ feels like its constantly drifting.

Was fun on sol2, but tracks like vk its painful.

yeldar2097
30th June 2010, 09:08 AM
1. QIREX!!
2. It's horrid on every track
3. Don't post here unless you're posting a time.
4. :g

KGB
30th June 2010, 11:46 AM
Where is this third BR that some of you are taking, is it off a lip or a Boost/BR? I tried boosting down the hill to see if it was faster than using it up the hill but I can't beat my time doing it that way. Coming off a lip and doing a BR is losing me time as well.

21.83 - 2 BR - ?pads - Fury

yeldar2097
30th June 2010, 12:15 PM
Depends on which method you use. Oh wait, it doesn't... :lol

1. BoostBR from the open section into the tunnel.
2. Off the first crest going up the hill
3. 2nd crest going into the long bend.
4. Final chicane

1. SS-BR on the open section going into the tunnel.
2. BoostBR off the first crest
3. 2nd crest going into long bend
4. Final chicane

There are a couple of lip BRs in there but I'm not convinced that they're of much use.

Challenger #001
2nd July 2010, 11:08 AM
Getting back into the game after a housemate thought it would be hilarious to format my hard disc. D< Thank god for the full game download.

Speed Lap > Tech De Ra Reverse > Phantom > Qirex Fury

00.22.33, 7 Speed Pads, 2 Barrel Rolls

Yeldar, could you post a video showing how you get the first and fourth brs in your post? I can't seem to make them work.

yeldar2097
2nd July 2010, 02:08 PM
Current World No 1 Time - Ericd7m (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ct6rgtQ1q0)

:)

KGB
2nd July 2010, 05:04 PM
Interesting tag at the bottom, never knew you had a pub Yeldar, what's it called 'The Red Dragon'? By the sounds of it you have more than one, well done. :)

Aeroracer
3rd July 2010, 12:24 AM
Mmmm i never noticed this challenge..now i underatand why all my top 100 records have now became top 1 million records cos all the players are focusing on this challenge and getting super fast on the speed laps and trials..sound like fun ..i think i will have a go at this..:nod

edit

just tried it out

maybe not to fast but im very proud of it as its ny new personal best and it is in ship i dont use

22.40 2 br not sure about pads think i missed two at the end of the track..

maybe i can better my time b4 challenge ends..

ACE-FLO
3rd July 2010, 02:03 AM
keep marrying walls.

Ah, that's my line (I invented it) and I'm so proud someone else (actually, Yeldy) used it :D

For that, I'll indulge you and have a go at this SL and TT tomorrow man, (well today, it's rather early/late/not slept yet :redface:) just so you can have a good laugh :D

Dark_Phantom_89
3rd July 2010, 09:34 AM
Welcome aboard Jasmin :+

Hmm, I appear to be getting my 1st BR at a different location than everyone else.

1st BR: The VERY last lip just before the double speed pads. Normally I just hit the fence section, but if I approach it correctly, it propels me forward. No sideshift required.

2nd BR: Boost BR at tunnel section

3rd BR: Coming out of the tunnel section.

Think I'll try the other method and see how I get on.

Dark_Phantom_89
5th July 2010, 06:13 PM
This weeks challenge has come to an end. Congratulations to yeldar for his victory, and to everyone who competed. A very warm welcome to Jasmin also. All names will be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

This weeks challenge is as follows: SPEED LAP/SOL 2 (FORWARD)/FLASH/ASSEGAI

Good luck all.

KGB
5th July 2010, 07:02 PM
Not the bloody 'under the wing' thing again :) Never mind, third time lucky maybe.

EDIT: I see someone has changed the tag as well. They obviously know him intimately.

triboy
5th July 2010, 07:25 PM
Wasn't here for some time, but... I'm back! ;)

25.03 / A.s.s. fury / 2 br / 7 sp

Challenger #001
5th July 2010, 08:08 PM
Speed Lap > Sol 2 Forward > Flash > Assegai Fury

00.27.33, 7 Speed Pads, 1 Barrel Roll

yeldar2097
5th July 2010, 08:52 PM
What's with these tags? :dizzy

yeldar2097: 24.15 - 8 Pads - 3BRs - Fury

fantmusik: 25.56 - 7 Pads - 2BRs - Fury

Dark_Phantom_89
5th July 2010, 09:54 PM
:lol at the new tags. I'll give this a go tomorrow.

I remember racing fantmusik recently - he's pretty good.

OBH
6th July 2010, 08:18 AM
yeldar2097: 24.15 - 8 Pads - 3BRs - Fury
Damn you!! :g
Im at 24.17 - 8 pads - 4brs.

Would have cleared the 23 barrier on lap 92 if i didnt mess up with the last br horribly...

edit:
Yeeeeaaaahhh! 23.89! 7pads - 4brs - FURY.
Bit sloppy over the bridge so clearly more time to be had there (will no doubt be needed when yeldar see's that he's not winning :)) Though saying that im slightly concerned at seeing 2 assagai times higher than mine in the leaderboard :g

Also my brothers here and he's got-
Mr-Phlanj - 24.55 - 8pads - 3brs - FURY

KGB
6th July 2010, 09:25 AM
I got 24.55 as well with 3BR and 7 pads Fury. After finally getting the two from going under the wing I cocked up the last BR off the hairpin thing :brickwall.

yeldar2097
6th July 2010, 11:57 AM
23.66 - 8 Pads - 3BRs - Fury

Your turn Haydn :banzai

OBH
6th July 2010, 12:07 PM
DAMN YOU!!! :beer

where do you do your 3brs??? I feel like im missing something.

yeldar2097
6th July 2010, 12:10 PM
1. BoostBR over line
2. BoostBR under wing (can't do the double)
3. BR after the long right-hander

:)

Edit: 23.57 - 8 Pads - 3BRs - Fury

OBH
6th July 2010, 12:16 PM
The doubles very difficult at this speed (a double boosting under the wing at least).

Nope, your doing exactly what im doing. Was trying to jump the 1st corner with the boost, but cant quite manage it, either clip the wall and respawn. Not sure if its actually doable to be honest.


...... to the ps3!! :beer

brainbeat
6th July 2010, 09:03 PM
24.14 4brs 6 speedpads
what's world rec for this track then bar the glitches?
Not been on for a while so bloody well chuffed I'm .02 behind yelda before it updates again lol. Only took 20 laps if you need help doing double br ag wolf did I Picasso pic it well helps(in this thread somewhere lol)

yeldar2097
6th July 2010, 09:19 PM
23.39 according to Connavar's site.

I suppose if done well the double would be awesome but I didn't have much trouble beating my 24.12 (with double) without using the double.

I say without using, what I really mean is that I can't do it :lol

leungbok
6th July 2010, 10:38 PM
24.14 4brs 6 speedpads
what's world rec for this track then bar the glitches?
Not been on for a while so bloody well chuffed I'm .02 behind yelda before it updates again lol. Only took 20 laps if you need help doing double br ag wolf did I Picasso pic it well helps(in this thread somewhere lol)

Xbarnsternx must be ranked 1 IMO, correct number of sp and we know he's not that bad at speedlaps ! ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
6th July 2010, 10:51 PM
So far I'm up to 24.87, 7SP's, 2BR's. I messed up the boost BR at the start but had a perfect attempt under the wing. I reckon I could get somewhere near KGB and Phlanj's time if I can chain it all together in one lap.

Aeroracer
6th July 2010, 10:54 PM
who uses the tag "sol is glitched" cos they got world record of sol forward on flash speed class with a really really fast time....

Dark_Phantom_89
6th July 2010, 11:08 PM
I think that's pirhapac (?) demonstrating that Sol 2 is indeed glitched.

Rezatron
7th July 2010, 01:52 AM
23.99 - 3BR - 7SP - Fury

My goal was sub 24 and I barely got it after around 40 laps :). I think I can do the bit under the wing faster as I seem to get too much air ATM, maybe a lucky double BR next time.

OBH
7th July 2010, 09:29 AM
23.72 - 8pads - 4brs - FURY.

Starting to get painfully hard to improve for me now.... the double br needs to be immaculate.

Though having said that, despite a br less yeldars still considerably faster than me :frown:

edit:

23.53 8pads 4brs FURY
Your turn Gareth :beer

yeldar2097
7th July 2010, 03:15 PM
23.48 - 8 Pads - 4BRs - Fury

Finally got that evil double going :g

OBH
7th July 2010, 03:22 PM
Cant you just give it up please :)

Im trying to clean my house, now ive been forced to go back to the ps3 :beer

Mr Phlanj
7th July 2010, 03:41 PM
24.24 - 3br - 7sp :D

thats me done until next time :D

triboy
8th July 2010, 09:01 PM
I imroved my time:

24.51 / 3 br's / 8 pads / A.s.s fury

And there is another way to get double br -> SS left from first wall in open section (on right side of track), br, landing on/or near middle sp, SS right with nose up and 2nd br.
Is not so fast as double under the wing, but is possible ;)

Yes, I know, everybody knows about this ;)

Rezatron
9th July 2010, 03:48 AM
Fixed a few details and got a 23.87 with 3BRs still.

I've done the double BR now many times and am convinced it's not lucky just very tough to pull off (especially consistently on a TT, yikes!). Whenever I do it it's either sloppy and slower than my ghost or when it's clean and I always mess up somewhere on the second part of the track :redface:. I swear I was on the way to a 23.6x/23.7x then totally borked the last BR! :frown:


24.24 - 3br - 7sp :D

thats me done until next time :D

I see 23.89 for you on the in game tables?

OBH
9th July 2010, 07:35 AM
That was me before i logged in as myself :)

Mr Phlanj
9th July 2010, 12:39 PM
yer it happens alot when i play.

on lap 89
ME: "woohoo!! i got a 24.24!!!"
restart session with haydn on the controler
HAYDN: "look kieran i beat your time on lap 7 :P"

......damit

OBH
9th July 2010, 05:32 PM
and always a pleasant feeling it is too :beer
glad your beating fantamusik, yeldars prodigy vs my little bro! :g

Challenger #001
10th July 2010, 07:35 AM
Not that it really makes any difference to the leaderboard, but I got a 27:03 with the HD Assegai.

Aeroracer
11th July 2010, 04:05 PM
speed lap challenge way too hard for the likes of me...:frown:

25.15 7pads and 3 br's

i hate the br under the wing cos computer reswarns you even though you kow you could make the jump easily..

maybe i get better on next track........

ACE-FLO
11th July 2010, 04:54 PM
gave it a shot, Fury ship, 2 BR's... I lasted all of 13 laps before I sarted to fall asleep LOL. Going online to keep stimulated ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
11th July 2010, 10:36 PM
Improved my time to 24.61, 9 8SP's, 3BR's.

EDIT: Just realised that I won't be around tomorrow to update the thread, so I'll post the challenge now. A great turn out this week :cowboy

SPEED LAP/TALON'S JUNCTION (FORWARD)/VENOM/EG-X

I'll update the stuff when I get back :)

OBH
12th July 2010, 08:00 AM
ill try that later, congrats yeldar :+, in the few attempts i had, i just couldnt squeeze those 2 tenths of a second.... not really surprising tbh :beer

Challenger #001
12th July 2010, 03:44 PM
Got 40 or so laps in just now, thanks for warning us Phantom. ;3 Also thanks for picking a fairly idiot-friendly track for useless clots like me. :D

Speed Lap > Venom > Talon's Junction Forward > EG-X (HD)

0.35.38, 13 Speed Pads, 1 Barrel Roll, Perfect Lap

ACE-FLO
12th July 2010, 05:27 PM
Ok, tried this one just now - my patience is really running thin. This time round, only 6 laps before I stifled my first yawn LOL, no joke... guys, in future I think I'm gonna give the SL and TT challenges a miss.

Anyway, here's the evidence of my epic crappiness :g

Fury EG-X, 1 BR 12 Speed Pads.. meh... pic attached for the time :paperbag which was 35:16

Aeroracer
12th July 2010, 06:18 PM
you dont need to keep posting proof ace..im sure your really honest anyway..

plus if its your best time (which picture says it is) it will go into leaderboards anyway for all to see:)

yeldar2097
12th July 2010, 06:24 PM
...in future I think I'm gonna give the SL and TT challenges a miss.

Boo -_-

Once you're in you're not allowed out anyways :P.

Besides, SL/TT is way more interesting: The best battles are the ones with yourself :nod

Aeroracer
12th July 2010, 07:45 PM
I prefer SL and TT to racing because with TT and SL its all about perfection in races the emphasis on perfection is not as intense its all about dealing with the situation presented in that particular race using your skills and very quick thinking to deal with situations created by other players and also staying focused and not losing it cos you got blown up by your friend cos you were hogging their line..im not playing down racing as its super hard to be good at it..its just a different skill to races than tt and sl..

but saying that i gotta have races every so often cos i do love the competition and seeing how well you perform against your friends and other players..

Challenger #001
12th July 2010, 08:45 PM
I have to agree with Yel and jas actually - maybe it's because I'm a bit of a loner myself but I love racing solo. Unlike those two however, I find the best kicks playing Zone. Put on your own music, and start sailing around Syncopia like you would in a bath full of blueberries and cream. :3

In other news - to those who are interested in my writing, I'm thinking of doing a team profile for EG-X for the site, with a new one up each week depending on what ship it is for the time trial. Good idea or no?

yeldar2097
12th July 2010, 09:08 PM
Great idea! Pre-Fury EG-X were my favourite team. Fury ruined them completely, both in looks and drivability :(

Zone ftw btw, love it :P

/offtopic

fantmusik - 34.06 - 11 Pads - 1 BR

yeldar2097 - 32.80 - 12 Pads - 1BR

No idea where Shape found the other 0.6s o_O

Aeroracer
12th July 2010, 10:55 PM
the world record for talon fwd on venom is like 30 seconds by itallian gamer in a assegai its like 2 seconds in front of yeldar i dont understand how that is possible is he just absaloutly fantastic player is it some type of computer error or glitch.
is their some big shortcut on this lap thats secret..

brainbeat
13th July 2010, 12:12 AM
32.96 fury 13 speedpads 2brs (including boostbr into lap)

don't know what the hate for this track is all about, great for non weapon races.  and good practice for racing lines, I see it as a tight basic f1000 track.
Scratching my head on how to improve lines by .80 btw I managed to dolphin br in two other locations than up hill.
One at the first straight as u come out of tunnel landing on the double brs. Best time I got this way 33.53 9 speedpads plus room for improvement:)
The other is as you approach the chicane keep to rhs and updownbr over the rhcurve. Very similar too moa therma same technique and flow not done a decent lap with 2nd only done once

Rezatron
13th July 2010, 12:36 AM
I just turned of my PS3 so I can't check but the WR is 32.20 by Shapealot as yeldar just mentioned above your post jasmin... ignore the in game boards and use Connavar's Ranking site (http://wipeout.gamerstats.net/) to view unglitched records tables.

This seems to be my strongest track (both directions). I think it has something to do with it being heavily dependent on good old fashion racing lines with no tricky BRs to exploit :D (well, except the boost BR on speed laps...)

I'll give it go later but I doubt i'll be improving upon my 32.67 Icaras time. :brickwall




No idea where Shape found the other 0.6s o_O

Probably a solid Boost BR start combined with Icaras and many a lap. I find the biggest key to a great lap here is where and how you land off the boost after the loop.

yeldar2097
13th July 2010, 01:21 AM
don't know what the hate for this track is all about

Because it's rubbish :nod

I suppose a boostBR over the start/finish line would help but it's impossible unlees you're a BR mentalist.

Rezatron
13th July 2010, 03:19 AM
32.77 - 13SP - 2BR - Fury

For some reason I can now do the boost BR at the start 100% of the time. Maybe it's easier to do with this ship compared to the Icaras, I dunno. :?:

DreamyElf
13th July 2010, 07:52 AM
i dont have a problem with racing alone, i'm used to it but i dont like SL as much as i do like TT and Zone...
i find SL a little boring imo, no offence.:)
TT on the other hand you have to be good for 3-5 laps consistenly so you have some kind of 'pressure' and no mistake factor compared to SL.
Zone is another dimension, by FAR my fav mode. nothing better,absolutely thrilling experience! it's like flying to space!^^
i'll give this challenge a go later but i'm rubbish so don't expect anything special!
also the fact that TJ is by far my worst track doesn't help, i really HATE this track!:bomb
why Studio Liverpool put TJ instead of blue ridge or another of pure's awesome tracks is beyond me...
mind that i don't have anything against fury tracks as i love modesto heights F, amphiseum and Tech De Ra F!:g

Edit: i forgot to mention that i prefer racing online with friends more than anything else ;)
jasmin, i'm still waiting for a race...whenever you like feel free to send an invite!:)

amplificated
13th July 2010, 07:57 AM
32.80 without the boostBR at the start is pretty impressive, using the EG-X especially

I may have a go of this, try find some place to get an extra BR as I don't think I'll beat my 32.54 Icaras time...

leungbok
13th July 2010, 08:58 AM
TT on the other hand you have to be good for 3-5 laps consistenly so you have some kind of 'pressure' and no mistake factor compared to SL

I think exactly the opposite !
Off course TT needs a great consistency, but one mistake can be allowed for a good time (i mean top 5/10).
Now sl are have been pushed pretty far, no mistake is allowed to a top rank !

yeldar2097
13th July 2010, 09:10 AM
Sometimes you even need to bend the rules/track (or miss the track entirely) to get a good time. Like in The Matrix :nod

:lol

Any tips for the boostBR at the beginning?

leungbok
13th July 2010, 09:18 AM
Lol yeye, yes in that case TTs are harder than speedlaps to succeed 5 times those ridiculous glitches ! :lol
I was talking about legit times off course ! ;)
About the boost BR at the begining, i think it's a bit easier if you start from the very right side of the track. (i show it at 1.50 on phantom class, it's easier on slower speeds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3_N7sdX9o )

amplificated
13th July 2010, 09:30 AM
I find it's easier to pull off if you boost a little before the start line. It's not as fast as doing it at the last possible point, but it gains an extra .1 or so.

Last time I did the track, I lost my ability to do it properly after doing it like 40 laps in a row, and could only manage it every 1 in 6 laps for the rest of the session... maybe I'm not the best to get advice from :P

brainbeat
13th July 2010, 10:00 AM
Yep just stay on far right when u boostbr and should be sweet it's easier in egx. U know the double br on anulpha pass reverse last corner the wall hop thing I think it's possible on tj at top of magstrip. I managed a double but went flying off track after lol

OBH
13th July 2010, 11:26 AM
don't know what the hate for this track is all about, great for non weapon races.  and good practice for racing lines

Good man :g :+:+:+
Has some of the most hectic multiplayer races too (i often carry shields round half the track just incase the chicane/hairpin's bombed!)

i think yeldar doesnt like it cos hes not absolutely sick at it ;):beer

yeldar2097
13th July 2010, 12:05 PM
It's boring, deceptively hard, not that great for practising lines and the speedpads are invisible. End of.

You want lines, go to MetroF or MoaR. Sol's good too. Those are what I used to get back up to speed after a break.

Update: 32.67

OBH
13th July 2010, 12:07 PM
Its not "end of" though really is it? :) half the track from after the loop to the end of the lap is very good for learning racing lines, and cant get quicker through brs as it isnt a br fest like most tracks. Hence why its deceptively hard.
totally agree with the annoying invisible speed pads though.

brainbeat
13th July 2010, 12:35 PM
What annoying invisible speedpads? I don't see them lol. (the one in tunnel corner I take)

Rezatron
13th July 2010, 12:56 PM
Improved EG-X by a hair to 32.76. More importantly, improved Icaras to 32.33. 8)

DreamyElf
13th July 2010, 01:49 PM
i gave it a short go,here mine's:
34.70 EG-X Fury 1 BR 13 SP

nothing special of course...

KGB
13th July 2010, 03:09 PM
Not sure what I'm doing wrong at the moment but I've only managed a 33.4x. That's with a boost BR at the start!

amplificated
13th July 2010, 04:26 PM
I had a half-hearted effort earlier and got 33.07.

Make sure you're getting that boost-br late, KGB - if it's too early it can actually be slower than a boost. Getting the boost out of the loopy tunnel right is also a big factor (and it's definitely the fastest boost location from what I've found). Other than those, the lap is all lines... maybe have a look on YT for some vids, I think barnster has a flash one there. The approach to the hairpin is also important.

Here's barnster's vid btw. 32.56:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJnmy-rIVaA&feature=related

brainbeat
13th July 2010, 08:01 PM
Cheers for vidlink I noticed I missed a ss left before hairpin can't see anything else. Hopefully wen I try later after work I'll get another .10 then I'm happy

edit new time. 32.91 2brs 13 speedpads

Aeroracer
13th July 2010, 08:15 PM
@rezatron thanks for tip about not to bother about the glitched tables.ill check out conevers site..

@dreamy elf...if you see me on invite into your game..im only good for venom and flash at present cant fly straight any faster at moment but im working on it..been out of game for way to long i guess..should be ok next week.

i like talons reach it seems easy but the more i play it the more i see how much skill is needed to hug those walls and keep your line super tight.

for me hardest part is the br up the hill keeping it tight and hitting the pad around that corner and the other bit is the u bend..its easy to do perfect but really hard to do it fast ..i lose lots on that corner cos i take it way to safely..

SaturnReturn
13th July 2010, 09:03 PM
All - there's a bit of off-topic conversation creeping in here. It's not too bad but if you think there is conversation worth having that could go on then please look for or make another thread in a discussion forum outside of The Arena section so that the challenge threads stay about the weekly challenge.

Thanks.

brainbeat
14th July 2010, 06:13 PM
Woo got 32.55 12 speedpads 2brs.
New method is badass. Not perfected it yet world rec definitely breakable that way. See leungboks vid in tt challenge

Mr Phlanj
15th July 2010, 08:02 AM
32.88 - 12sp - 3br - fury

I think i can do better if i work on my lines and my pull off my boost/3rd br smoother than i did for this time

brainbeat
15th July 2010, 12:44 PM
3 brs? Tell us how :)

yeldar2097
15th July 2010, 04:46 PM
32.11 - 13 Pads - 3BRs

:g

Leungbok, you're a genius ^^

brainbeat
15th July 2010, 05:27 PM
Where's this 3rd br then. I've seen the vid and only see 1. Im confused lol
Great time yelda btw

yeldar2097
15th July 2010, 06:07 PM
1. BoostBR over line
2. Leung's BR (from his phantom TJ video) after the mag-loop. Sideshift right from the raised side on the left for a BR)
3. BoostBR over chicanes 'a la Leungbok'

:)

amplificated
15th July 2010, 06:28 PM
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :o

I never realised you could get a BR out of the loop, at least on venom!

I've never really understood the boosts in TJ, as usually boosts and br's through a turn slow you down more than an alright boost over a straight, but no boost br I tried ever seemed to be faster than the one out of the loop and around the corner, which seems counter intuitive compared with the other 2 boost locations.

And then, what makes the boost through the chicane better than the boost out of the first tunnel?

ahhhhhhh whatever... nice time! :lol

Rezatron
15th July 2010, 06:47 PM
Nice! I will have to practice these techniques! I already know I probably won't be able to do that SS-BR though... :redface: Yeldar, do you think the alternate boost-BR location is quicker or are you getting a quicker time just because of the 3rd BR?

I just set a SL WR on Flash using the normal/"old" 2BR method but am afraid it won't last very long now! :robot

yeldar2097
15th July 2010, 07:05 PM
Definately due to the new boost location: I tried the SS-BR with other boost areas, like on the straight before the loop, was still quite a bit slower.

brainbeat
15th July 2010, 07:37 PM
Ah cheers. The boost br is defo better I went from .91 to .55.
Have to figure out the 2nd br. 3rd ain't to difficult it's just learning corner after land. My ghost smokes past me now if I try oldway.

Mr Phlanj
16th July 2010, 08:35 AM
32.10 - 3br - 12sp - fury

IM IN THE LEAD!!!! HAVE THAT YELDAR YOU SLAG!!!

:beer

and yes thank you leungbok :D

leungbok
16th July 2010, 08:42 AM
Lol, you're crazy, don't provocate yeldar, mate !
If i could beat one of his record, i would keep that secret the most as possible :lol

Mr Phlanj
16th July 2010, 08:45 AM
you see it wont happen again any time soon, so i have to brag as much as possible until he comes online and looks :D

EDIT: Haydn just phoned me to tell me I'M the best! Around!! Nothings gonna keep me down!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXO3gKfOUN8)

OBH
16th July 2010, 06:16 PM
funniest thing is you were accidently signed in as me :beer

Mr Phlanj
16th July 2010, 07:00 PM
I know, I noticed that when i went to turn off the ps3 and saw your background :P

yeldar2097
18th July 2010, 12:42 PM
.09 :g

Mr Phlanj
18th July 2010, 01:49 PM
DAMN YOU YELDAR!!! :g

ever since haydn set a WR ages ago every time i started SL or TT ive said "right this is going to be a WR" and now you have ruind my 15mins of fame :D

Aeroracer
18th July 2010, 05:34 PM
my lap time on

talons juction ..forward....venom...in egx...hd

was

33.84 with 13 pads and 1 br

leungbok
18th July 2010, 05:45 PM
DAMN YOU YELDAR!!! :g

ever since haydn set a WR ages ago every time i started SL or TT ive said "right this is going to be a WR" and now you have ruind my 15mins of fame :D

Shape avenged you ;)

shapealot
19th July 2010, 11:50 AM
31.77 13 SPs 4 BRs icaras+ i only just found out it was this weeks speed lap challenge :hyper

edit: appologies, im in the wrong ship so my time doesnt count

Dark_Phantom_89
19th July 2010, 11:57 AM
Shapealot - This week's challenge requires the EG-X ship to be used :)

EDIT: Not a lot of time to try the challenge this week. I managed 33.34 with 2BR's.

shapealot
19th July 2010, 12:02 PM
yeah i just read the challenge post, sorry guys

Dark_Phantom_89
19th July 2010, 06:27 PM
Another week has come to a close, and what an interesting week it was. Congratulations to yeldar for his ever so close victory this week, and an honourable mention to Mr Phlanj who showed us that it is possible to beat yeldar, albeit for a short time :D

As always, a big thanks to all who participated. Your names will all be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

I decided to do something a little different this week with the challenge. We've all had an attempt at beating Zico, so I thought to myself "why not try to do it again?" So, I present this weeks challenge:

SPEED LAP/ANULPHA PASS (FORWARD)/VENOM/PIRANHA (A.K.A THE BEAT ZICO CHALLENGE!)

Aeroracer
19th July 2010, 08:10 PM
i got 30.74 on zico ..i know it was like rank 2000 + but its really good cos i was so lame at zico in the old days..

just got to slice off half an hour or so to make it decent..

Challenger #001
19th July 2010, 08:19 PM
For the record, I still don't have this award yet. So prepare for a serving of epic fail on my part. Also, given that everyone seems to be bringing their little brothers/sisters to this championship (YELDAR!), I thought I'd let my little bro and sis have a go. Each of us did 7 laps each.

Speed Lap > Anulpha Pass (Forward) > Venom > Piranha (Fury)

challenger001: 0.31.51, 3 Barrel Rolls
challenger's little sis (11 years old): 00.36.10, 0 Barrel Rolls
challenger's little bro (14 years old): 00.33.62, 1 Barrel Roll

Aeroracer
19th July 2010, 08:30 PM
thats so sweet letting your baby sister have a go..i think i might get some others to do a few laps too..:)

AspenExcel
19th July 2010, 09:23 PM
Piranha (Fury) - 0.30.39 - 4 BRs. Hope to improve some more, and at least attain 29.xx.

wiintermute
19th July 2010, 10:10 PM
I managed 30.30 two weeks ago — does this count? I'm asking because I don't think I can do it again :P

yeldar2097
19th July 2010, 10:42 PM
28.32 - 16 Pads - 6BRs - Fury

Gah there's so many BRs on this track that I can't do -_-;;

Where's that autoBR button when you need it... :beer

Rezatron
19th July 2010, 11:15 PM
29.66 - 5 BR - 15 SP - Fury

Nothing fancy, will try to get some chained BRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYNNeV81pDE) onto the bridge if I get in another attempt. :brickwall

Dark_Phantom_89
19th July 2010, 11:19 PM
challenger001: 0.31.51, 3 Barrel Rolls
challenger's little sis (11 years old): 00.36.10, 0 Barrel Rolls
challenger's little bro (14 years old): 00.33.62, 1 Barrel Roll

Do they have PSN names at all? It'll just make things easier for me, but no worries if they haven't.


I managed 30.30 two weeks ago — does this count? I'm asking because I don't think I can do it again :P

Afraid not, you'll have to try it again this week ;)

Mr Phlanj
20th July 2010, 05:46 AM
and an honourable mention to Mr Phlanj who showed us that it is possible to beat yeldar, albeit for a short time :D

thanks DP, not only did i come away from it with my 1st gold medal in the SLC but i can now say i was the best in the world at somthing...for about 3 days :D.

also good idea with the zico SLC :+

KGB
20th July 2010, 10:17 AM
I managed to beat my record so I'm happy. I got a 29.69 - 5 BR - 12 pads? - FURY. I did it the old school way with a boost/BR at the start. Judging by the SPs for Yeldar and Rezatron they are doing it different.

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 10:53 AM
I tried a mixture of all sorts :)

Currently it's:

1. BoostBR over line
2. Mini-BR of first hump
3. Mini-BR over speedpads (Can't do this one)
4, 5. Double BR in the tunnel
6, 7. Boost onto bridge and BR again after/during landing on said bridge thingy. (Can't do 7)
8. BR off overpass onto final straight.

That's basically phaeton's method from waaaaaaaay back :)

It's weird though because if I do this method in TT an can't get anywhere near my ghost which is doing it the 'classic' way.

confused.com :dizzy

amplificated
20th July 2010, 11:00 AM
I think it would be faster to boost out of the tunnel with a BR and then do a decent double/triple BR onto the overpass

never done a triple though myself... doubles are hard enough

and I've never done either BR off the first hump to boot. /failure

phaeton_pl
20th July 2010, 01:06 PM
That's basically phaeton's method from waaaaaaaay back :)


Aaahhhh memories... :) I will give it a go later today 8)

Also, i have an idea for next week challenge.
Could we try: (Nice track, Phantom, Icaras, No BR's!) ??
I just remember how different and fun was to try to beat Zico without BR's!
Completely new strategy, trying new boost locations, perfecting lines...

We don't have any official "non-BR" Speed Lap Records, it could be something new :D

Aeroracer
20th July 2010, 03:22 PM
I would like a non br challenge.some br are just way too hard for normal mortals.many br's are sl specific and have little value in a real race due too risk a nd energy cost .

DreamyElf
20th July 2010, 03:34 PM
i improved a little my old rec:

30.56 - 13 sp - 4 br - Piranha Fury

KGB
20th July 2010, 04:18 PM
That would be a cool idea phaeton_pl, maybe every now and then. I wouldn't have a problem with it. It would be interesting to see the difference in times without BRs.

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 04:36 PM
Or make it compulsory to do both?

Or something like, you have to do the normal SL challenge to enter a time for the non-BR challenge...something like that.


many br's are sl specific and have little value in a real race due too risk a nd energy cost .

Since when? :lol ^_^

KIGO1987
20th July 2010, 04:46 PM
Give Jasmin a break Gareth ;)

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 05:10 PM
What you on about? Break from what? Crap jokes? I like crap jokes

Rezatron
20th July 2010, 05:13 PM
A non-BR challenge would be welcome but would only be good to do on a set number of tracks IMO. BR fest tracks like Sebenco (both ways) would be terrible for a non-BR challenege because of all the changes of elevation/drops. Generally any track with drops wouldn't be great to do. Tracks like Moa, Talon, Metropia, Modesto (only rev) would work well though. Just my opinion though.

leungbok
20th July 2010, 06:37 PM
Since when? :lol ^_^

True, lol ! Why do people always want things to be easy ? No challenge, no glory ! ;)

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 06:46 PM
Ooh I thought Sebenco would be a great choice :(

It's not just lines you have to worry about, it's pitch n that as well. Besides, we still do endurance races on these tracks and you can only do 6BRs in 20 laps on those :nod

The only tracks that I'd suggest not to use would be TJ and TJR because they're awful. It's the only place I can fall asleep and whilst staring through the red mist :lol

/2 (many) cents AKA OffTopic

Dark_Phantom_89
20th July 2010, 07:48 PM
A non-BR challenge could be done, but I think that it would die out pretty quickly.

I managed 30.13, 15SP's, 4BR's. Missed the overpass BR on this run, so a 29.xx is certainly possible for me.

I've noticed that although I'm hitting more speed pads, I'm still slower overall. Am I taking a wrong route or something? :lol

Rezatron
20th July 2010, 08:03 PM
I'm guessing you used the same method as me but without the boost BR start? Do that and 29.xx is yours.

edit: sorry never mind missed the part about the missed bridge BR :redface:

Dark_Phantom_89
20th July 2010, 08:05 PM
EDIT: Just read Rezatron's edit

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 08:30 PM
28.22 - 16 Pads - 7BRs - Classic Method

Challenger #001
20th July 2010, 09:16 PM
Sorry Phantom, neither of my siblings have PSN accounts. Just list them as challengers 003 and 004 instead. :D

Does anyone have any advice in how to start-boost-br? Hellfire's video just says to tilt the nose down then up, but I get the feeling there's more to it than that? Heeelp anyone?

In other news, anyone interested in a Piranha team profile this week?

yeldar2097
20th July 2010, 09:36 PM
Nose down, Nose up, boost. That's all there is I'm afraid...

Just remember not to boost until the nose is fully up, not during the process of raising the nose. :)

amplificated
20th July 2010, 09:40 PM
yeah, there is one big detail to add to that - you need to boost after you tilt up to get the boost, and then br with the air you make :P

LurifaxFlux
21st July 2010, 02:00 AM
29.66 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8I-E_CZp7o) :D
Edit: LOL exactly same time as Rezatron

I will try to improve :) :dizzy

Edit2: Getting there... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulhO0Kep4Ao)

DreamyElf
21st July 2010, 11:51 AM
i tried for a few laps but i can't do a boost br start...
i have motion sensor off, should i turn motion to pitch only?

also can't do the double br after the boost on the hill...

i guess some pilots are just better than others so i'll stop trying. lol

LurifaxFlux
21st July 2010, 12:03 PM
@DreamyElf: It's all about great timing, just keep trying :)
Personally I fail the boost br start quite often, it's not very easy.
I use motion sensor - pitch only, but not for the boost br start, the motion sensor has quite a delay.

New time: 29.55 - 7BRs - 13SPs - Piranha HD (double BR onto overpass but missed some SPs :()
Edit: 29.48 - 7BRs - 12SPs - HD
Edit2: 29.26 - 6BRs - 13SPs - HD (missed boost br start)

brainbeat
21st July 2010, 12:15 PM
30.20 6 brs all sps?
I cant stand ap, where do you boost br nowadays on this?

Aeroracer
21st July 2010, 08:36 PM
Or make it compulsory to do both?

Or something like, you have to do the normal SL challenge to enter a time for the non-BR challenge...something like that.



Since when? :lol ^_^

since i decided...got a problem with it......yeldar

no seriously yeldar, what i mean is their are many br's in SL that are really not too pratical to do in a real race....well maybe not for you..but for me they are...many sl br's are very risky and not safe and unless you are a true wipeout machine like yourself and they can cost players wins through inconsistant screw ups..

in theory if you are a master of all of them go for it provided you can keep your energy up..
but i have seen many good player defeat themselves by trying to pull off a silly br and end up crashed or simply just play on low energy levels only to be killed by a weapon or a collision with another racer or a wall..

i think the players who request a br free speed lap may want to see how their line compares to a top player..for myself i simply just do not have the time to learn these advanced br techniques they require much skill and practice..

but saying that i would never want to see br vanish from SL as it is what wipeout hd is all about but it would be good just to try a Br free trail just to see how much the br makes to players race times and how a average player would fare aginst a top player..

leungbok
21st July 2010, 09:27 PM
There was a league called pressure created here by players that thought their lines were able to compete with top player's (those that are doing silly BR). There was only one or two event organised ! :lol
In avalon races every player is able to perform 5/6 BR... and who wins ? :eek Yeldar, or Unctuous, or Saturn, or Tck... !! The same who wins on normal races with lots of BR to perform! :rolleyes:

yeldar2097
21st July 2010, 09:52 PM
Or leungbok on Syncopia! Yes I remember that one, bon up ^^

I think it's be fun to try every so often. Maybe not every week but every now and then, variety being spicy n that :D

Challenger #001
21st July 2010, 10:02 PM
Of course you can't keep Barrel Rolling in a race as you would in Speed Lap or time trial. But then you can't keep grinding along the wall either, or have everything ripped away by an errant quake.

You can't consider TTs and SLs to be in the same kind of league as Races - you'll have people who are good at one and not at the other. My speciality is Zone/Zone Battle: anyone who's raced me in Avalon knows I'm hopeless at races and my record on this thread is evidence that I suck hard at SL/TTs. But surely this is a gaming forum and we're here to have fun, regardless of how fast we are. Nobody's forcing you to do this, Jasmin. You could go play races and leave us be if you'd prefer.

Supposing in an Eliminator you were forbidden suddenly to use Quakes and Plasmas. That's the equivalent of banning Barrel Rolls - it's yet another weapon in the arsenal of skilled players.

Sorry, just thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth...

triboy
21st July 2010, 10:02 PM
Hehe, today, for the first time I made 2 new br's on Anulpha :redface: thanks to that I menage to get from 30.03 to 29.19 :hyper

29.19 / 6 br's / xx sp / piranhia hd

LurifaxFlux
21st July 2010, 11:29 PM
Ah triboy you beat me!!
Good thing I got an improved time again :g
29.12 - 7BRs :dizzy - 13SPs - Piranha HD

Edit: Gonna try out different techniques now...
need.to.beat.yeldar:robot

KGB
22nd July 2010, 03:04 PM
Managed to get a 29.49 - 5BRs - 14 pads - fury.Top 20, which isn't bad considering how many people have tried this before. Miles off the lead though.

LurifaxFlux
22nd July 2010, 03:54 PM
This challenge have really given me a sore thumb, need to rest it some...
Not sure if I'll be able to beat yeldar, at least not this week :P

Aeroracer
22nd July 2010, 10:26 PM
There was a league called pressure created here by players that thought their lines were able to compete with top player's (those that are doing silly BR). There was only one or two event organised ! :lol
In avalon races every player is able to perform 5/6 BR... and who wins ? :eek Yeldar, or Unctuous, or Saturn, or Tck... !! The same who wins on normal races with lots of BR to perform! :rolleyes:

sorry leungbok.i cannot see the relevance of your statement...:brickwall

your appear to be implying that myself or others may think top players are not that good and that without br's, average players would be able to compete with them.:donut

i can tell you that i do not think that and most players would also agree.
a top player who can pull off all the possible br's on a track should be more than likely capable of racing a very tight line.simple logic8)

leungbok
23rd July 2010, 06:47 AM
i think the players who request a br free speed lap may want to see how their line compares to a top player..

In that case it's already possible on moa reverse tt phantom, several top 10 are made without any BR ! ;)

kaori
23rd July 2010, 11:26 AM
kaori | 30.15 | FURY

4 Barell Rolls, 14 Speed Pads

triboy
25th July 2010, 02:55 PM
Ah triboy you beat me!!

Get used to it ;) Nah, just joking m8 :beer , but wait, one second, I improved my time to 29.07, so, as a matter of fact, I beat You again :twisted

29.07 / 6 br's / 14 sp / piranhia hd

And here is time of Wreckegde, another fast polish pilot :rock

29.30 / 6 br's / 14 sp / piranhia hd

LurifaxFlux
25th July 2010, 03:20 PM
Darn!!! Now I gotta improve my time again xD

Edit: Improved time!
28.85 - 7BRs - 14SPs - Piranha HD (http://vimeo.com/13630891) <- Click for video

Edit2:
28.37 - 7BRs - 14SPs - Piranha HD
I give up now x)
Thanks to yeldar for hints :)

Dark_Phantom_89
26th July 2010, 07:32 AM
Wow, amazing time Luri :clap

Nice video too - there's no way I can pull off some of those BR's :eek

LurifaxFlux
26th July 2010, 10:30 AM
Thanks :)
All it takes is determination.
I have probably done 1000 laps on AP this SLC week :lol

yeldar2097
26th July 2010, 01:59 PM
**** me you're getting closer every minute!

Great job, thank goodness it's monday, I might be safe ^_^

Challenger #001
26th July 2010, 02:50 PM
Blah, life's got in the way and I haven't had time to do much on the challenge this week. I still can't do either the BR onto the overpass or a boost BR reliably enough to string a good lap together, so I guess I'll have to have the shame of being the only one on this thread not to beat Zico. D: I probably won't be on for most of the next month or so, but I'll promise to at least try and post a time.

...31.43 using the Fury, 3 Barrel Rolls, 12 Speed Pads.

Christ, that feels embarrassing...

Aeroracer
26th July 2010, 03:01 PM
tbo challenger001

AP is imo the hardest track in the game..it might be easy to fly around but to do it in a good time makes it the hardest.their are like 6-7..maybe more br's most of which are near impossible..

To do this track in a good time is also beyond me too..so dont feel embarassed..

:nod

Dark_Phantom_89
26th July 2010, 04:36 PM
Im going to close the challenge a little earlier this week, as I won't be around later to update it.

Congratulations to yeldar for his victory this week, and an honourable mention to our newest competitor, LurifaxFlux, who almost beat him ;)

Thanks to all who competed - your names will be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

This weeks criteria are as follows:

SPEED LAP/CHENGHOU PROJECT (REVERSE)/RAPIER/MIRAGE

Good luck everybody

DreamyElf
26th July 2010, 05:09 PM
good choice this week DP! :+
at last some rapier action! :D
time to improve a little on chen p rev, i'm rubbish on the rev course...
also time to clean the dust out of the mirage, i haven't used this ship for ages! :lol

Aeroracer
26th July 2010, 05:56 PM
i dont mind using mirage but i hate racing against them..their like the white vans of wipeout the hog the whole track with thier fat large round body and its hard to get past them..
this is a good challenge cos im rubbish at this track i dont even know a br
and i have never made the last corner without hitting walls..

i wonder if i can change that this week...Hmmmmm:nod

Rezatron
26th July 2010, 06:14 PM
You can do a BR going down the last left hander. Combine that with a boost-BR start and a boost-BR over the shortcut and you have 3 BRs. Might be possible to be a do a BR just after the tunnel in the middle of the track but it's hard at this speed (well, for me...).

edit: i'm sure barnster got his 23.58 by either clipping a wall at start and chaining 2 BRs or clipping the wall in the middle section and chaining BRs there (or both!).

Aeroracer
26th July 2010, 06:23 PM
nice tips..thanks alot..il try them out..:)

Challenger #001
26th July 2010, 06:40 PM
Jas, have you tried watching Hellfire's videos? There's two phantom BRs on this track, and watching SaturnReturn's videos, he can pull off three on a regular basis. Rapier would probably be a bit trickier, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of three or even four BR-runs on this course.

Speed Lap > Chenghou Project Reverse > Rapier > Mirage Fury
0.26.82, 9 SPs, 0 BRs

Aeroracer
26th July 2010, 06:52 PM
cool..cant beat a good video to help you learn a track.

thx

yeldar2097
26th July 2010, 10:13 PM
23.63 vid for you (pl) and your AG friends ^^ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhAFUrpJhgs)

Also my entry for the week :nod

Aeroracer
27th July 2010, 12:14 AM
i got 22.40 but i couldnt be bothered to do any br,s cos im so hot :p






















Then suddenly i woke up from my dream ...26.40 :turd with a one and a half b,r and a faceful of wall..
sad but true.....:nod

DreamyElf
27th July 2010, 07:15 AM
i'm currently at 25.72

thx for the video yeldar^^
i see that i was trying to take the shortcut from wrong spot, maybe i'll improve a little...

@jasmin
hey, don't worry jasmin my previous rec was 26.85 without using the shortcut, last night i tried some laps and managed to cut it by a sec.
keep trying and you'll improve!:)

edit: can't improve i give up, so final time is: 25.72 - 9 sp - 2 br - fury

Woopzilla
27th July 2010, 10:01 AM
Had a go last night:

24.67 / 8 SP / 3 BR / Fury

EDIT: Did the last BR but missed some easy pads, doh.

LurifaxFlux
27th July 2010, 04:31 PM
Well I have to start somewhere :)
25.11 - 3BRs - 10SPs - Mirage Fury

leungbok
27th July 2010, 04:37 PM
24.30 - fury ship - 3 BRs - 8 :brickwall speedpads

Aeroracer
27th July 2010, 08:21 PM
@dreamy elf...25.72 is a very good time...

i will keep trying but this track is very difficult for me i can t even get a decent start..

also like you i was taking the shortcut way to late no wonder i wasnt gaining any time..but i will keep at it see what happens :)

@leungbok..24.30..wow..thats fast..did you unlock a new ship with infinate turbo..or am i just too slllllllllllllloooooowwww

Rezatron
27th July 2010, 09:07 PM
24.04 - 3BR - 10SP - Fury

Off my 2 month old PB by 0.11s. Oh well, i'm satisfied with it.


23.63 vid for you (pl) and your AG friends ^^ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhAFUrpJhgs)

Also my entry for the week :nod

Good run, so it turns out you don't need another BR to get near the WR at this speed. Those extra funky BRs are key in Venom/Flash though...

leungbok
27th July 2010, 09:11 PM
hmmm, i don't know maybe it can shave some hundreths on rapier, but i didn't manage to succeed those with mirage :bomb

triboy
27th July 2010, 09:51 PM
One question to all pilots. How many laps You are flying in week for SL challenge? This is my time after 9 laps.

24.75 / 3 br's / 10 sp / fury

Probably I will try to improve a lil bit ;)

Oh, and one thing. Grats to Lurifax, man, 28.37... stunning ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
27th July 2010, 10:07 PM
A quick 5 lap session got me 25.02 with 2BR's. I'm struggling to do the sideshift BR.

yeldar2097
27th July 2010, 10:23 PM
Which SS BR is that? The one at the end? It's quite possible without you know :)
Also if you do it without SS you tend to hit the walls on the home straight less often. Never understood why though.

LurifaxFlux
27th July 2010, 10:46 PM
How many laps You are flying in week for SL challenge
I usually screw up a lot before I get a good feeling of the track/speed/ship.
I did like 70 laps I think before I posted my first time for this week.

To get that perfect time though, it takes much more, last week I think I did 800 laps or so on AP, although it's harder on that track since I have to both get a near perfect line and nail those advanced BRs.


New time: 24.60 - 3BRs - 9SPs - Mirage Fury



Oh, and one thing. Grats to Lurifax, man, 28.37... stunning ;)
Thanks mate :)

Dark_Phantom_89
27th July 2010, 10:55 PM
Which SS BR is that? The one at the end?

Yeh. For some reason, I really struggle to do left sideshift BR's, but can do right sideshift BR's almost all of the time... :S

leungbok
27th July 2010, 11:00 PM
One question to all pilots. How many laps You are flying in week for SL challenge? This is my time after 9 laps.

it depends, i always do one session for the challenge (except if i feel later that i can improve quite easily), when i'm on good form it can be 10/20 laps for a good one or sometimes a 80/90 laps session
@Dark_Phantom_89 it's logical to me if you're a right hander, it's easier to do only one thing with your left hand (the left-right-left move as an example) than to add another move (the double tap on the trigger) with an other finger of the same hand. It needs a great coordination. And if you are more comfortable with your right hand, you also have less moves to do with it (just holding the thrust button) and only perform the double tap !

Rezatron
28th July 2010, 12:37 AM
One question to all pilots. How many laps You are flying in week for SL challenge? This is my time after 9 laps.


Usually 25-40 laps. That's usually how long it takes me to get the feel for the track at whatever speed and make a lap to a certain standard (ie: all BRs done cleanly, clean lines, minimal wall bashing :P ).

Unless we're talking about Sol2, it would take me 200-300 laps to do a good one. :rolleyes:

About the last BR, I have trouble with left SSs too but I can do this one consistently by pitching up a little then SSing. Try it, it makes it easier.

brainbeat
28th July 2010, 11:48 AM
Lol. I misread that been doing phantom for past 2 sessions. Was wondering why I was 2 secs quicker :)

New time 24.93 10 sp 2 brs.

Hit the side right at start but did very good shortcut. So may be able to improve by another half or so.
I can still do the br into right hander before magstrip but not in a decent lap :) (keep to the 2 lines on right hand side of track and u need to pitch up ssright, not alot of space for br but wicked when it works.

KGB
28th July 2010, 03:36 PM
Just got a 24.60 - 3br - 8pads - fury.

triboy
28th July 2010, 09:57 PM
Funny thing, after 4 laps I got 24.58, and after next 50 my best was between .64 - .72 (top 3).

24.58 / 3 br's / 10 sp / fury

LurifaxFlux
29th July 2010, 04:38 AM
New time: 24.42 - 3BRs - 10SPs - Mirage Fury
Pushin' da limit :D


Edit: 24.24 - 3BRs - 10SPs - Mirage Fury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BwRCDSKtaY) :g

KGB
30th July 2010, 08:47 AM
24.20 - 3brs - 10pads - fury. Finally worked out how to do the boost/BR at the start smoothly, managed to find some consistency for the left hander after landing the short cut and managed to nail the last BR on to the last SP. Always happy when I get in the top 10 :D.

triboy
31st July 2010, 02:47 PM
New time:

24.36 / 3 br's / 10 sp / fury

(+/- 150 laps in this week)

Add 10 more laps and what you get?

24.18 / 3 br's / 10 sp / fury
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8581/dsc03842.th.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/dsc03842.jpg/)

amplificated
31st July 2010, 10:42 PM
Funny thing, after 4 laps I got 24.58, and after next 50 my best was between .64 - .72 (top 3).

24.58 / 3 br's / 10 sp / fury

The same thing happens with me. Get a half decent time early on, spend the rest of the session trying to beat it, fail, 4 laps into the next session get half a second faster. weird.

klocki LEGO
1st August 2010, 12:42 PM
24.09 // 10 SP // 2 bR // Mirage Fury

Tri@
about ~150 laps in session

LurifaxFlux
1st August 2010, 01:59 PM
New time: 24.06 - 3BRs - 10SPs - Fury
So many people passing me, had no choice but to improve ;)

ZixXer
1st August 2010, 10:51 PM
when I play wipeout it do zone 90% of the time because it kicks ass!
but now I think it is time to increase my skills for sl so that i can kick ass online later on.

..... now that is :turd

before I started this challenge I looked at my stats and it told me that i flew 16 rounds over this rev track....

and compered to my vineta K were i have 4000+ its not that mutch.
(zone mode)

after +-20 rounds i got 26.05 with 2br and the fury ship have no clue how mutch speed pats, and i bumped in a few corners so a 22 will will come next, no kidding that is to fast for me but 25 or 24 should be posible with a perfect lap.

Rezatron
2nd August 2010, 12:13 AM
24.09 // 10 SP // 2 bR // Mirage Fury

Tri@
about ~150 laps in session

Hmm only 2 BRs Klocki? If so, great time! Is the last BR giving you trouble?

LurifaxFlux
2nd August 2010, 12:32 AM
New time: 24.03 - 3BRs - 10SPs - Fury
Just about enough :D

klocki LEGO
2nd August 2010, 05:52 AM
Hmm only 2 BRs Klocki? If so, great time! Is the last BR giving you trouble?

Yea 2 bR only. Need more practise on it.
i think i have 5% to 20% to do it right ;) Need improve it.

Dark_Phantom_89
2nd August 2010, 09:06 AM
Welcome aboard ZixXer! :)

I'm going to have a real shot at this later. Want to get into the 24.xx's.

EDIT: Final time of 24.60, 10SP's, 3BR's. A very sloppy shortcut BR landing, but it'll have to do :)

brainbeat
2nd August 2010, 12:46 PM
Hi I'm in work till later and forgot to add my times. Iwill later if ok.
http://www.YouTube.com/brainbeatuk
my best tt. Managed 4 brs on one lap not the best example

Deathjester87
2nd August 2010, 02:16 PM
Hi all,

Great idea with the challenges. I'm no speed demon, but after 86 grueling laps I finally managed to break the 26 second mark (25.90 with the fury ship), which I'm pretty happy with. Congrats to everyone at 24.xx and beyond...

Dark_Phantom_89
2nd August 2010, 06:29 PM
Another week has come to a close, and what a week it was! A fierce battle between 2nd, 3rd and 4th this week, and the best turnout out of all the SL Challenges :cowboy

Congratulations to yeldar for his victory this week, and an honourable mention to LurifaxFlux for clinching 2nd place :)

A big thank you too all who participated this week, and a warm welcome to our newest competitors, ZixXer and Deathjester87 :) All names will be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

This weeks criteria is as follows:

SPEED LAP/METROPIA (REVERSE)/PHANTOM/FEISAR

Good luck everybody

yeldar2097
2nd August 2010, 06:56 PM
19.19 - 8 Pads - 4BRs - Fury

Woopzilla
2nd August 2010, 07:36 PM
19.48 / 11 SP / 2 BR / Fury

yeldar2097
2nd August 2010, 07:58 PM
19.14 and my entry for the week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ju48GjA9aY)

leungbok
2nd August 2010, 08:15 PM
19.25 - 8 sp :brickwall - 4 BR - fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktxi48ifi-A my entry for the week :D

LurifaxFlux
2nd August 2010, 10:46 PM
19.46 - 2BRs - 10SPs - Fury

Woopzilla
3rd August 2010, 12:30 PM
Improved a little:

19.43 / 10 SP / 2 BR / Fury

Dark_Phantom_89
3rd August 2010, 01:04 PM
I'm up to 19.64 so far, however I have pulled off the triple BR and know how to do it now, so expect an improvement from me if I don't mess up the corner again ;)

KGB
3rd August 2010, 01:46 PM
I got a double BR but then missed the double speed pads going up the mag strip :brickwall.

19.49 - 3BRs - 8 pads - Fury.

LurifaxFlux
3rd August 2010, 01:52 PM
So close!!! So exciting!!!:hyper

Nutcase:259
3rd August 2010, 03:25 PM
20:30 . gets me in the top 200. :D th ough im still a way off

LurifaxFlux
3rd August 2010, 03:30 PM
Welcome to the challenge (and the forum) :)

Nutcase:259
3rd August 2010, 03:51 PM
Thanks :D
Got it to 19:93 now (fury)

Dark_Phantom_89
3rd August 2010, 06:45 PM
Welcome to the SL Challenge Nutcase, it's always great to see a new competitor having a go :+

Deathjester87
3rd August 2010, 10:14 PM
19:97 for now, 8 pads and 2 BR. Will have another go at the triple BR later in the week maybe, but for now it seems impossible...

Dark_Phantom_89
5th August 2010, 03:27 PM
Improved to 19.46 using the 2BR method. I'm going to try and get 3BR's minimum by the end of the week.

Nutcase:259
5th August 2010, 06:23 PM
Tried (and failed :lol ) to beat my current time. How do you manage to get so much air to do a BR before the mag strip section? :clap .

KGB
5th August 2010, 06:59 PM
I think if you keep to the right hand side as you do the first BR it leaves you in the best position for the second and if you keep to right again then that's sets you up for the third. Knowing how to do it and doing it is another thing though :P. I need a bit of luck to manage it.

yeldar2097
5th August 2010, 07:31 PM
I gave a couple of people an in-depth set of intstructions to help them with the triple on PSN chat the other day. Not sure if it helped, you'll have to ask them :P

I'd reel em off here but I don't want to seem like a radical preacher spinning endless yarns of bullshit :lol

SaturnReturn
5th August 2010, 07:37 PM
Really? So what's changed? Had an epiphany there preacher man?;)

yeldar2097
5th August 2010, 08:19 PM
Trying to cut down, bad for the soul :nod

leungbok
5th August 2010, 09:30 PM
I gave a couple of people an in-depth set of intstructions to help them with the triple on PSN chat the other day. Not sure if it helped, you'll have to ask them :Pl

About what i know about the triple on metropia ;) :
_ You must shortcut a bit the right turn after the triple speedpad, only a little bit, if not, you'll respawn. So during you're performing the first BR, you must target the left corner (but here too, not too close to it !) it'll be easier to perform the 2nd BR than from the middle of the track, and also the third one will be easier with this line. about that 3rd BR you must target the middle of the magstrip, don't care of the double pad at the right, too risky to hit !

I think if you keep to the right hand side as you do the first BR it leaves you in the best position for the second and if you keep to right again then that's sets you up for the third
Not exactly mate, this line is a little bit slower (if you target the right hand side) and also, even if the double is perfectly doable like that, it's not guaranted for the third, because your ship will not land as far as necessary (on the void before landing on the magstrip) to BR.

Yeldar has a good line during his triple BR on the 4th lap of his tt video, me too on my speedlap vid with the feisar :P

F.E.I.S.A.R
6th August 2010, 10:04 AM
I must be out of my mind...
Time:20.07
Speed Pads:10 Pads
Barrel Rolls:3 BRs
Ship Type:HD
I remembered doing the tri-BR,but I did not beat the above timing...
Got pulled down by the mag-strip for who knows how many times.
EDIT:
Time:19.77
Speed Pads:11 Pads
Barrel Rolls:3 BRs
Ship Type:HD

LurifaxFlux
6th August 2010, 06:21 PM
New time: 19.28 - 8SPs - 4BRs - Fury

Challenger #001
8th August 2010, 10:29 AM
20.29, 11 Speed Pads, 2 Barrel Rolls using the Fury.

Hi again everyone. ;3

triboy
8th August 2010, 09:57 PM
Finaly found some time to make some time ;)

19.40 / 3 or 4 Br's / 8 sp / Feisar fury

Dark_Phantom_89
9th August 2010, 06:35 PM
Another week has come to a close - congratulations to yeldar for his victory, and an honourable mention to Leungbok and LurifaxFlux for being able to pull off the triple BR!

A big thanks to all who participated. I hope that this challenge helped you to improve your techniques and set some new personal bests - your names will all be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

The Speed Lap Challenge also welcomes its newest competitor - Nutcase:259 :g

This weeks challenge is as follows: SPEED LAP/MOA THERMA (FORWARD)/FLASH/TRIAKIS

Good luck everybody

leungbok
9th August 2010, 06:39 PM
and an honourable mention to Leungbok and LurifaxFlux for being able to pull off the triple BR!

Thanks mate, but i don't deserve congratulation, given that i found that triple BR (with help from Pirahpac and Asayyeah)! :D

Nutcase:259
9th August 2010, 06:55 PM
Thanks :g This Speed Lap Seems a lot more do-able that the last one. what with all the barrel rolling shenanigans :lol

leungbok
9th August 2010, 07:13 PM
Not sure ! The fastest way for a good time on moa forward is a 4 BRs lap ! ;)

Nutcase:259
9th August 2010, 07:22 PM
oh :redface: i can think of 2 :lol

amplificated
10th August 2010, 12:06 AM
Do I have this right?

1: BSB
2: Boost out of the tunnel
3: Last corner
4: Turning it into a double by landing some way that's really hard to replicate

I've never been able to pull off BSB on this track, I keep respawning. If it's not BSB that gets people times that are a second or so faster than mine, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

yeldar2097
10th August 2010, 12:50 AM
Actually yeah, are we BSBing this or not?

Aeroracer
10th August 2010, 12:55 AM
A track i can play:) well a bit anyway..

can someone help me on this track..All i know how to do is the standard br at the last corner and a turbo br at the last corner that flys high over the start line..ive heard about the other br but have no idea how to do these...

thankyou :)

yeldar2097
10th August 2010, 02:14 AM
Courtesy of Leungbok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3rqt4QJXuQ

leungbok
10th August 2010, 06:36 AM
Moa forward method is Pirahpac's copyright ! ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
10th August 2010, 09:48 AM
I forgot to add - No BSB please :g

brainbeat
10th August 2010, 10:30 AM
I had a try of this last night its possible to ecco br but i think best way is to do the line for a double br on last corner boost the 2nd br, you can end up nosediving into lap point sure theres a 3rd br this way, I have had opportunity 3 times but because of new television i have to readjust, keep forgetting to try br wen i hit the line. unfortunately cant record as i dont have 3d camera:P

Aeroracer
10th August 2010, 12:17 PM
@yeldar..leungbok
thx for posting video