What pisses you off most in Eliminator mode?

[CJS]

Personally, it's when Harimau is always shielding. It gives me a good excuse to rip it's head off when it stops, though -_-
NO-ONE SHIELDS AROUND CJ AND LIVES TO TELL THE TALE!

[NeilSmith]

Vista-pads really pisses me off. On some occasions I pass over 3-4 pads before even getting a pickup. That's a real game-breaker for me and I avoid playing eliminator because of it. SL needs to fix this problem asap!

[Hellfire_WZ]

Getting six quakes throughout the event and not getting a single elimination with any of them.

[Cerbis]

Hear hear, Hellfire. :mad

[DDark]

It does stress me out when i go over three weapon pads and dont get a single pick up but i love eliminator best on flash and rapier cos your not all bunched up like venom i think a quake is over rated in eliminator it doesnt seem to do that much damage but get behind someone with rockets and its instant doom for that sorry soul :nod

[sny]

Getting six quakes throughout the event and not getting a single elimination with any of them.

Six quakes... never even seen that many in one event, and I've done a couple of 600 point events vs. the AI... I guess my pet peeve is the flip-side of this: getting thrown left and right from dozens of quakes and not getting a single one myself.

[XBARNSTERX]

Online vista pads. you get hammered with rockets and missile etc and cant return the favour, this has cost me the win on many an occasion .

[CJS]

Yeah... in Pure and Pulse quake was, like, a lethal weapon and now it only kills as much energy as a barrel roll drains (15%). Plasma is 4 times more powerful.
Building on my anti-Harimau campaign thing, I got Elimin18 on Harimaus alone :dizzy

[andybob35]

Practically killing one person then waiting for the next power up to finish and WHAM!!! reverse quake taking dim down and crippling me at the same time.

or alternatively shield for a lap and then attack while everyones weak from the mayhem....:nod

[PLazarou]

'Pissing me off' is a bit harsh, but the most obvious issue for me is the framerate. It quite clearly does not stick to the claimed 60fps. It's a damn sight better than Eliminator in Wipeout Pulse, but it could be better...

[Tez]

Harimau

:(

Vista pads are the only thing I dislike. I love Eliminator mode, it's a lot of fun with friends

[KamatsuKyoto]

The lack of Repulsor and Shuriken from Pulse... :rock

[Vartazian]

Online vista pads. you get hammered with rockets and missile etc and cant return the favour, this has cost me the win on many an occasion .

Ditto

[love9sick]

It is my fault really but I continue to press circle in hopes that i trade it in for life only to have to yell "doh!" when I realize I get a shield for about 2 seconds.

[CJS]

Agree on repulsor & shuriken, but they shouldn't let the AI use repulsor- or else I'd be blowing up every 3 seconds. I don't like getting hit by a quake that goes forward and backward and is as strong as a plasma. SCEEL could add the to Wipeout HD err... Ponies- IMEAN, Acid, I mean the next DLC...
Edit: Sorry Tez. Mirage sucks, too, and their Fury ship looks like a VW beetle from the back (no rly, it does) :nod

[Luillin]

Well I really like Eliminator I find it amazingly well done... I have no complains, and if you play Online it's better, the only thing that I hate is when your luck is doomed and you get the worst weapons.

I also love the feeling of desperation when you hear "PLASMA BALL" or "QUAKE" and then you hear the Plasma Ball coming behind you xD arg I love that.

[SonicChaos]

I hate it when you get hit by a quake and then some rockets and a missle to blow you up from practically full sheilds. I have had that happen waaay to many times.

[CJS]

I also love the feeling of desperation when you hear "PLASMA BALL" or "QUAKE" and then you hear the Plasma Ball coming behind you xD arg I love that.
Yeah, the plasma sounds like a mental stopwatch or something... *TICKTICKTICKTICKBOOM* lol

[gettinmoney662]

When I hit the reverse button and fired off my rockets. Two rockets hit two different ships head on, eliminating them both, and I won the round.

Oh wait, that was great.

[Sven]

Heh, I've done that. Forget missle locks for 30 seconds, that stupid trophy should have been getting two eliminations with one rocket pickup, heh.

But what I hate is when people are sitting still on the track and you can't see them until they clobber you with rockets. I think there should be indicators to highlight where enemy ships are, like in the reverse view.

[SonicChaos]

Actually I like not being able to see them. Setting up ambushes are fun, besides there's the indicator at the bottom that tells you when you're close to someone and if they're facing backwards.

[DeepMix]

i dont really like eliminator at all anyway lol its just a matter of luck, if ur opponents got better weapons than u, ur screwed so.... the eliminator mode itself pisses me off lol

[SonicChaos]

If they do get better weapons and you have a crappy one, waste it for a sheild.

[ProblemSolver]

What pisses you off most in Eliminator mode?
The elimination.

[fusionfrenzy]

When I lurked under the crest of the hill, turned and fired a plasma over it when the enemy ships came near, making a sneaky elimination... that was awesome. What I don't like is when people shield as soon as i drain them. I mean, I understand why, it's just annoying - especially offline, where I'm sure the AI cheat, always having a shield in skilled/elite, even if they have recently fired a weapon and havent been near a pad....

Generally, I love the Eliminator mode though. It's really awesome. Ive played it about 5 times online (only got Fury 2 days ago, I was on hols) and won 2 of those. I routinely get 'Most Aggressive' in races though, so I suppose it's no suprise that I enjoy it...

[sny]

...I'm sure the AI cheat, always having a shield in skilled/elite, even if they have recently fired a weapon and havent been near a pad....

I noticed that too, and came up with the conclusion that the AI gets powerups at certain intervals in eliminator regardless whether they passed over a weapon pad or not. This is even more aggravating in Zone Battle, where AI ships get an increase in his zone bar regardless whether they passed over a zone pad or not. I'm not sure if this is true for novice or skilled, since I only played the campaign events in elite mode.

[SonicChaos]

I think it still applies, but it doesn't fill up nearly as fast and they rarely use it.

[Sven]

I also hate when you hear a weapon warning, burn a pickup for a shield, but the shield runs out just before the weapon actually hits you. Or when you activate the shield .2 seconds too late.

[Motorsagmannen]

lol this seem to always happen to me in races in stead of eliminator.
if i run over a weaponpad when a quake hits me you can bet your ass i get a shield lol.

i like eliminator it put me back to a positive K/D :beer.

but things i hate in it is beeing wtfbbq-raped on the second turn against elite AI. never had problems doing them eventually but sometimes they are just not fair lol. l

[CJS]

Another one of my pet hates is when I act stupid: press L1, drop my mines, turn around again and fly straight into them. Guess I'm used to just flying straight through them in Pure...

[SonicChaos]

The sheild seems to dissapate the second a weapon comes at me as well. Very frustrating.

[LOUDandPROUD]

i dont really like eliminator at all anyway lol its just a matter of luck, if ur opponents got better weapons than u, ur screwed so.... the eliminator mode itself pisses me off lol


Hey, buddy. :) I actually disagree about it solely being a matter of luck. Sure, there's luck involved, but that can be said about every other online mode too. There's skill and strategy involved, as well though, for sure. All I know is I had been dominating eliminator mode offline...found it so easy. So, I decided to try online to see if my skills would carry over at all. Did three, full-room, eliminator events. The result? Third place, first place then first place again. Guess I'm just lucky. ;)

[DeepMix]

but im just talking about eliminator, u dont need that much skills like if u were playing races or zone battles, in here u just need weapons, u dont need to do barrel rolls neither shortcuts and worring about finishing a lap :) but that is just my opinion

[Motorsagmannen]

only skill you actually need is a good aim, and a good tactical overview. as you said the rest is luck. but the good eliminator players seem to get top positions most of the times, so some skill is definetely required although not necessarily the same you use in a race.

[Sven]

Another thing: starting in the back. Seems like people in the back get kinda screwed in both Eliminator and Zone Battle

Re: Luck: I think Eliminator is like Poker...definately some luck, but a lot of skill.

[akirapill]

Getting eliminated then spawing to find you've already been knocked down to 2
shield with no chance of avioding any of it.

Not knowing who just shot you, the name on the right should flash or
something. You know, for the vindictive bastards amongt us who wanna go get
em back.

[SonicChaos]

Oh yes, revenge would be so nice. I also love how the cpu can read your mind and magically have a sheild ready.

[Chuckzombie]

I've always loved Eliminator mode until this evening. Regardless of whether I win or lose, it always puts a big grin on my face, because I just love the absolute mayhem of it all, but tonight it just p*ssed me off totally because only one of out every three weapons pads worked. They 'bleeped' when I flew over, but no weapon was given, so I was being shot to hell time after time. I knew it was time to switch off when I knocked my beer over!

SL, you owe me a guinness! :lol

[SonicChaos]

lol. When I play games, it's time for the kids of the neighborhood to cover their ears.

[fusionfrenzy]

^ Chuck, that happened to me today as well..very irritating. Is some bug spreading? :s.

[Aeroracer]

The random element to eliminator is just to great.In eliminator i is possible for a great player to lose to poor players if they just keep getting lousy pickups.

[Luillin]

I'm Hating one thing online.... Everyone plays it at Venom or Flash Speed.... :| it bores me a lot.... And if I make a game @ Phantom, no one joins.

[Michelasso]

I hate the quakes. They are really unbalanced. Especially because I often get mines or BOMBS!! I hate when I just start and in 3 seconds I explode w/o even the time to reach the first red pad. And I obviously hate when in some games I hit the red pads w/o getting any weapon. :brickwall

But I still love it!!! It's great fun!!

[sh1kamaru-]

I miss the repulsers :D

what frustrates me a lot is when some people start to hide in the track, I'm not sure they understood right the concept of eliminator, in offline play the IA is a bit too foreseeable

[DividedXZero]

I'm Hating one thing online.... Everyone plays it at Venom or Flash Speed.... :| it bores me a lot.... And if I make a game @ Phantom, no one joins.

I'll join....i usually end up in rapier though due to lack of Phantom when i'm on.
A lot of eliminators too...i normally just want to race!

[SonicChaos]

That's because most players online aren't hardcore enough to handle it. I myself play Flash a lot and am coming around to Rapier and Venom is too slow. I just don't have the skill set right now to play Phantom.

[Aeroracer]

This is all news to me..Every single game apart from my bling game has been phantom without pilot assist..Are you telling me there are people who still play venom (snail pace) ????

maybe i have been lucky as i tend to join games with players off here.

[Rapier Racer]

Unbelievably enough, didn't think I'd see myself type this but the mode itself is pissing me off because now when I click online all I see on my screen is:

ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR
ELIMINATOR

Hard to find a proper race anywhere these days, I guess all the people that can't win them prefer eliminator mode.

[billychanxtr33m]

I miss the repulsers :D


i miss repulsers too :beer though the flip kind of made them obsolete, there was nothing more satisfying then diving into a big group and racking up the repulser kills

[SonicChaos]

I can find plenty of races online just fine, just no Zone Battles :(

[leungbok]

Hard to find a proper race anywhere these days, I guess all the people that can't win them prefer eliminator mode.

Noooo, you kidding !! ;)

[XBARNSTERX]

That its all online consists off. I love it think its absolutely insane on phantom, win or lose. but i'm a racer who thrives off a 1st place victory. Even when i filter the game modes theres very few races which are mainly venom or flash, not that i mind them. I just dont see the point of racing 9 lap flash races or 20 lap venom, i've even seen 3 lap flash wtf.

[SonicChaos]

3 laps on Flash? I didn't think that was possible as 4 was the min.

[Luillin]

9 or 20 laps on Venom OMG HOW BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SonicChaos]

No kidding. huge amounts of laps get boring pretty quick.

[Luillin]

No kidding. huge amounts of laps get boring pretty quick.

And more in Venom.... :?

[Michelasso]

Hard to find a proper race anywhere these days, I guess all the people that can't win them prefer eliminator mode.

Well, the solution is easy enough. Just host your own game. Usually people join. It's just that many are too lazy to be the host. ;)

[XBARNSTERX]

When you do create your own game the few that join soon leave.

[SonicChaos]

Exactly my problem. No one stays very long.

[Rapier Racer]

Yeah lol creating my own game usually consists of no Pilot Assist or weapons hints at Phantom, it seems the majority of players don't like that.

[Kerni86]

When you do create your own game the few that join soon leave.

Thats not correct; yesterday i hosted a Eliminatorgame for more than 1 hour (on Rapier), with 6 - 8 players all the time. :nod

[Rapier Racer]

I think he was meaning a Single Race game.

[XBARNSTERX]

Yes i did mean single race games, i have pilot assist off too. Seems like the only games you see are anulpha pass over and over again that actually have pilot assist off. Bring on Avalon:rock:rock

[SonicChaos]

I play with pilot assist and hints off. Seems people don't like that either. I was talking about SR or Tournament as well. Eliminator has no issues getting people.

[CJS]

Online Eliminator is frustrating... those guys push you out of the way of the weapon pads and sometimes when you do cross over one, it doesn't give you anything! Good thing I have AG Assasin now and don't need to play it online anymore

[crawdad62]

It's seems that you can't chain shields together. There has to be a break in between.

[SonicChaos]

It's to stop exactly that, other wise what fun would that be?

[Handmadelion]

Not a lot upsets me in this mode TBH. It's like online Halo, you can get completely handled one second and be right back in competition the next. And that it doesn't require any particular skill. Shoot stuff. "Aim Quake" ;)

[crawdad62]

It's to stop exactly that, other wise what fun would that be?

Well if you're absorbing weapons you certainly can't score so I can't see where there would be any advantage in continually absorbing however there's times when more than one shield would be advantageous. I would assume it's your choice whether to use one or not. If it's not "fun" then they shouldn't be used at all.

[PoliPino]

The only thing that annoys me are the blank pickups. A couple times this weekend, I would fly over 3 or 4 pads in a row, get the bing, but no weapon. It kind of ruins a match that depends on weapons, especially when the second after I get the blank pad, I see the quake coming at me or the unavoidable mines, but I can't shield because I have no weapon :bomb

Other than that, I love eliminator. The sheer mayhem is absolutely beautiful. I dare say it's even more destructive fun than Twisted Metal.

[SonicChaos]

@craw Well you most certainly won't win by sheilding all the time it also prevents other players from scoring points on you. I guess they just didn't want people absorbing and scoring points on Perfect laps.

[warhawk813]

When after you get hit by any weapon, you stall....your a sitting duck for about 2 seconds! That's when I seem to always get plowed by rockets!!:bomb

[Koleax]

Frame dropping and broken weapons pads. Other than that, it's a good show. :+

[eoS-Zero]

lucky bastards that get the elimination you earned and did the work for, because your victim still had 3% of energy after your shot....

[Seasonreaper]

Respawning and going critical before I can even move is really annoying and happens occationally :mad:.

Not being able to pick up any weapon pads for like, an entire lap because everyone keeps stealing them is also really irritating.

The only other thing I hate is that a lot of people play on the Fury tracks and I haven't been on any of them really apart from Syncopia and Mallavol so I end up crashing a lot, but that's my own fault for not doing the Fury campaign yet :p.

[amplificated]

getting hit by weapons itself is the most frustrating thing in the game, and a whole mode practically dedicated to that seems kinda not my style...

well, getting hit by weapons and people hogging your line, but only one is eminent in eliminator :P

[Dark-Twisted]

Am I the only one who hates offline Eliminator events? It's the only kind of event I have issues with in the Fury campaign, and while I see that some skill is required (which I must not have), it does seem to be a lot about luck. You'd better hope like hell the AI is going easy on you. Annoys me real bad >_<

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

To me,if it is offline Eliminator,I don't mind.There is no lag as everything is local,on one system.
Online Eliminator gets me because you never know if bad packets get sent.

[PEPEDA]

I love eliminator !!!! :D:D:D:D