avalon : MayDay (may 22, 23, 24)

[kanar]

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/image.php?groupid=4&dateline=1239542544&type=groupthumb (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/group.php?groupid=4)http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/image.php?groupid=22&dateline=1241033319&type=groupthumb (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/group.php?groupid=22)
May 22/23/24 -----> PS3 & PSP
Crap1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8ZBYRSHkac) -- Crap2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbMTWmwA3EQ) -- Crap3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUIEUf8dqsU)

HD Estimated host schedule (no filter, EUR ZONE, GMT TIME) :coffee:
friday : 19H00 GMT+1--> Monday : 00H00 (?!)


Competitions


-"Classic" 4 races/track, 2 with guns, 2 without -- PA off -- BR on

-EndurancE championship (1 race/track) : 20 laps/Br on/PA off/no weapons


--->Mother host : Kanar_is_back (EURO ZONE) Available most of the time.
--->EMERGENCY HOSTERS (When I'm full, or when I'm sleeping)


(EURO ZONE)
-SaturnReturn
-me
-AnErare
(US/CANADA)
-Darkdrium777
-TCK
(AUSTRALIA/JAPAN)
-Blackwiggle
-Kigo



I'll contact more zoners/modify this list regarding their availability. Please let me know if you're interested!!! The only objective is to offer a good game for everyone, all over the week-end.


PSP powered by http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=355&albumid=40&dl=1241122887&thumb=1 (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/album.php?albumid=40&pictureid=355)Estimated host schedule (EUR ZONE, GMT) :coffee:


friday : 19H00 -->23H00 2 races/track, 1 with guns, 1 without (phantom)
Saturday : 19H00 -->23H00 TEAMLINK DIVISION EVENT


-->HOSTS :
-Friday : ACE-FLO
-Saturday : Archman


Direct feed/chatbox :
WOzone (ps3 chatbox)
http://wipeoutarena.forumsactifs.net/ (arena chatbox if you're logged)
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/group.php?groupid=4 (avalon racing league)


current times (no-guns):robot:


vineta k : Greenix 1.42.35
anulpha : Greenix1.52.36
moa : Wotan 1.59.69
shenghou : Wotan 2.03.12 NEW
metropia : Wotan 1.46.66
sebenco : Wotan 1.59.75 NEW
ubermall : Wotan 1.50.08 NEW
sol2 : Wotan 1.43.38 NEW
REVERSE
vineta k : Wellington86 1.41.68
anulpha : Wellington86 1.52.94
moa : Luxoflux 2.00.91 NEW
shenghou : Wotan 1.58.15 NEW
metropia : ericd7m 1.46.50 NEW
sebenco : Wotan 1.57.46
ubermall : Wotan 1.50.06
sol2 : Wellington86 1.46.28


ENDURANCE times (no-guns):robot:


vineta k : Greenix 6:46:67
anulpha : Wotan7:28:66
moa : Wotan7:58:95
shenghou : Wotan8:14:84
metropia : Wotan7:07:09
sebenco : Wotan8:00:25
ubermall : yeldar2097 7:23:21
sol2 : Wotan 6:54:05
REVERSE
vineta k : Wotan 6:45:93
anulpha : Wotan 7:34:10
moa : Amorbis 8:02:36
shenghou : yeldar2097 7:55:31
metropia : Elhabib 7:08:53
sebenco : Wotan 7:51:88
ubermall : Wotan 7:20:76
sol2 : Wotan7.06.76


OVERALL MVP :mr-t: Wotan998
MAGEC ACADEMY :cowboy: eRZed, Luxoflux, ericd7m, Mus, Peh-Hok, JJPAP, MakyuraJT, stinkleroy, AnErare, fgdk, tug_14, AG-Wolf, SaturnReturn, imre92, SHENLONG, Zoth-Ommog, z1r0rEi, yeldar2097, LOUDandPROUD, reach-big7, Klocki_Lego, Bigi_PL, dariusz1230, mic-dk900, chaos80, Lloyd_87, error321, Haydn, Ankou-13, Leungbok, TarotCardKiller, DrMannevond, Hn9354, JohnBaileys, OLOuk, TarquinFarquar, Greenix, Andybob35, Elhabib, Amorbis, XBARNSTERX, TheFrostE, Mister_Mateo, kut59, KIGO, AkFurtif, INFINITY_1, Mjolnir74, Sukkermund, Blackwiggle, I_Coin, TorquedSoul, fabimus, erich123, K_Haruki, Alterego


Please Pm me for ideas/errors/suggestions, or if you think I need a break LOL


Previously on April Rush : visit KanarAvalon (http://www.youtube.com/user/kanarAvalon) & SaturnReturn (http://www.youtube.com/user/chiliharvs) Youtube channels (more than 70 vids lol)

[SaturnReturn]

Hooray! Lots of time to practise for that Ubermall record. Good stuff. I'm glad to see Avalon will still be going ahead despite the update. Looking forward to it already :+

[archman]

Always inspiring and so fresh! Thanks for the hard work!
Let the countdown begin!

;)

[LOUDandPROUD]

Can't wait, my friend!

[Darkdrium777]

I would think in May I will be free a lot more :)

Friend, I shed a tear for you, you are awesome. :+

[EPSILON]

This is for A V A L O N :sonar

http://rapidshare.com/files/223037905/RemixEPsilon_BLOODY.mp3

or

http://uploaded.to/file/cbc7ea

Enjoy !

[Avenger2197]

I am going to bust my ass to be there this time. Missed too many of them already, and kicking myself for it.:blarg

@Kanar: Thank you for not giving up on this, keeping with it, despite your displeasure with the new patch. You deserve a round of applause just for that. Honest. We can only go upwards from here.;)

[Asayyeah]

MayDay ! Wow Brilliant name to introduce this promising event !
Pristinaaaaa here we go bloody badge :P

[Vartazian]

Vartazian is Ready for the North American League!

Sign me up!!

[AnErare]

Oompha Loompa Yaaah!

I'll certainly be around the entire weekend.

[kanar]

Thanks a lot guys for your support. It will be probably one of my last opportunity to be crazy lol. Thanks Epsilon for your inspired song! (teasers on the way lol). My Raiden mate Saturn has already signed for hosting a bunch of races with me, feel free to pm me or post here I you want to host with us a little & keep an eye on the no weapon records.

...and now... One month of practice...

[KIGO1987]

Whats this about ompaloo pas?? Im lost.. youve had to much weed AnErare, lol.

Im looking forward to this Avalon since i couldnt even participate in the last Avalon weekend last time since 2.70 fuked up my KIGO1987 account. [die microsoft die:pc]

Looking forward:D

[JJPAP]

Really perfect timing, Kanar!!! The wife will be off to Milano that weekend = I´ll get to play a lot :P.

[stinkleroy]

Great news kanar. Bring it on :g

[designer_79]

noooooo, I'll enjoy my holidays in Switzerland during that weekend --> no PS3 *sob*
would have loved to try again after the first clumsy steps during the last Avalon weekend. Kanar you are doing Avalon every month? Will you keep organizing it in the near future??

[AnErare]

lol @ Kigo!

No it's not some sort of new pass, might be a hidden corner at AP tho, dunno. It's the gibberish the little creeps in Charlie and the Chocalate factory sing :P I was in a jolly mood and swung it out!

As Avalon is pretty much a crazed event I found it to fit as an exclamation of joy :D

[kanar]

Kanar you are doing Avalon every month? Will you keep organizing it in the near future??

damn, bad timing mate. Hope you'll enjoy your holidays, even without your ps3 lol.
As AnErare said, that's a crazy story from the start. If this event is probably one of the last I could organize, we'll find solutions to keep delivering.

[archman]

Anyone interested in team racing on May 23rd on Pulse, please PM me at least one hour before the start of the sessions. ;)

[archman]

I can proudly announce that the eight racer for the upcoming Pulse session confirmed, so the first session is full! We are still inviting you to confirm, so we can go with multiple hosts and do the knockout phase. Those already in: if any new participants confirm, prepare for the long night! It WILL be intense. Hope to see you all on May 23rd!!! Thank you for the support!

[kanar]

Glad to read that mate. Regarding the HD part, Blackwiggle (AUS), Darkdrium777(CAN) & SaturReturn (well ENG but dutch) will be ready to host some sessions. I've contacted TcK & Kigo too, I think we'll have some kind of good network for this event, regulated through the WOzone Chatbox on ps3.

[SaturnReturn]

Maybe we should start an Avalon chatbox for the event, as I know Kigo has trouble accessing the WOZone one.

[archman]

That would be awesome. But at least we have an msn, if nothing else is available! ;) (info: we need to be in contact when racing in teams)

[KIGO1987]

Maybe we should start an Avalon chatbox for the event, as I know Kigo has trouble accessing the WOZone one.

Ive just have never seen it before. Who was the creator of it?

[kanar]

The WOzone chatbox on ps3 works for a long time now, as far as I know. I think Saturn opened it.

[KIGO1987]

Either my PS3 is being a cnt, or ive simple never received an invite into this chatbox, im not sure..

[KGB]

Soccermums started the WOzone chatroom as far as I remember

[KIGO1987]

Where is she btw? Havent heard from her in quite some time...

Hey does anybody know if Pirhapac's wife play much Wipeout HD online?

[SaturnReturn]

Yeah, I didn't start it. I think previously Kigo set up another one and someone mentioned he couldn't access the WOZone one. Didn't realised you'd never been in it. It's the place to be :D Anyway, I'll definitely invite you next time I see you on Kigo, and if it doesn't work for you or anyone else during Avalon then we can make an Avalon one :+

[KIGO1987]

Thanks Saturn:D. The day ill have a good chatbox open is the day the stupid filter is turned off.

Be assure ill be there this coming Avalon, i couldnt attend the last Avalon event since the ****ing Wipeoutbug killed my KIGO1987 account. The only thing i could do was listin into the chatbox Kanar had set up. Anyhow looking forward to these races, ill be racing for fun this time, **** being professional on Wipeout online these days, ****ing lag and bullshit ****ing Vista pads. Ill just be cruizing in the rear of the grid in Triakis this time round:)

[KGB]

I have played Pirhapac's wife before but not for a while, she's even faster than him:P

[yeldar2097]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! I'm on holiday that weekend
Great timing kanar :D

[RJ O'Connell]

Count me in fo' sho'!

[kanar]

thx a lot for the support guys. Kigo & Tck will be ready too to localize the event if needed, and good news from djkyoto : br & vista pads seem to be healed by 2.76. Well, I just need practice now.

[SaturnReturn]

OMG!!! Are you serious? Barrel rolls are fixed? If that's true it is just in time :D

[KIGO1987]

276 bus is the Chinatown express in my area....

back to topic.

This sounds cool ill check it out:)

[blackwiggle]

2.76 works if everybody has updated,it's an optional update,so if somebody in the race hasn't you still get the same old problems

[Darkdrium777]

Soon, yay :)

I can't imagine what three days of wipeout will do to my autopilot thumb though. :bomb

[LOUDandPROUD]

I have no plans this coming weekend, so I'll be able to participate a lot more this time than I have in prior Avalon events...can't wait!!!

[stinkleroy]

Nice new teasers there kanar :p

[SaturnReturn]

kanar - I'm taking part in the Team Link event on pulse so won't be available as a backup HD host during those hours. Just thought I should let you know.

[AnErare]

Saturn, I think I'll be able to be backup host so that's not a problem, count me in Kanar.

[Avenger2197]

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend.:( Not until a new PS3 is bought to replace the sudden death of my old system. Sorry Kanar, I was really looking forward to this.

Man, I hate this crap.:bomb:bomb

[kanar]

damn I feel sad for you mate. Mine (first serie as you) sounds like a Boeing 747 taking off, just after 10mn of use. I hope we could share some races again in the near future.

[KIGO1987]

Looking forward to the Pulse sessions this weekend:g

Not sure ill attend the HD sessions though, but'll remain online on the PS3:)

[archman]

I'm happy that you will join us on Saturday and Friday. Though I'll skip friday. Girlfriend coming home YAAAYYY!!!

[kanar]

Ok. I'm going to sum up the things a little ah ah. Here's the estimated road map for FRIDAY;


-HD : I'll be online from 19h00 GMT 'til late in the night. As Kigo & Blackwiggle are Australians, they're free to host some no weapon races & keep an eye on the records if they want to, before the Euro zone meeting. Well in fact, same for you Sat, Ane, TCK, Dark... I you're eager to start before feel free to do so.

Races & Host back up will be organized from the WOZone chatbox (If some people haven't access to this chatbox, or if it's full, we'll open a second one).
Here's the definitive list of the avalon HD MayDay Crew lol : KIGO, BLACKWIGGLE, SATURNRETURN, ANERARE, TAROTCARDKILLER, DARKDRIUM777, & me.

-PULSE : Unfortunately Arch couldn't make it this particular night. We'll see if MrSmadsmartAlex, ACE-FLO, KIGO or maybe someone else can host friday sessions. I'll try to join myself, after some destructive HD hours.

Gah -2 days...

[djKyoto]

Who knows, I might show up this time.

[KIGO1987]

May i suggest that a really good way of communicating between us would be through the use of MSN messenger. Exchanging hotmail address details through WZ PM is a good idea, yes?

[stin]

It`s a possibly I will be there as long I`m no drinking beers because I have not had a decent drink since before convention.:robot

stevie:)

[stinkleroy]

Thats a good idea in theory Kigo, but I've recently switched back to a wired connection to try and combat lag. Because of that, can't operate both my laptop and ps3 at the same time.

[RJ O'Connell]

I'm still trying to find my PSP so I can possibly get back into Pulse...and possibly play a bit of the Avalon events for it.

stinkle, my set-up is about perfect - a wired connection for PS3 and wireless to play PSP without leaving the house. Bliss.

[JJPAP]

Ahhhhh! 4 days off from work :p
Moroccan Tajine w/ lamb in the oven.
South African Redwine in the glass.
Wife off visiting friends in Milano (envious: Yes!).
Kids behaving well.
Jazz on the radio.
And The Avalon from friday to sunday :rock
Really, once again, looking forward to it.

[stinkleroy]

Pappy can I come to your house for tea? lol

[JJPAP]

LOL :lol
Every single WO-zoner is welcome!

[stinkleroy]

Woo Hoo...party at Pappy's house people :hyper

Hehehe

[Darkdrium777]

Oh my god, it is soon. :D
So how does it go?
We do two races with guns, two without, then Endurance?

=====

My internet has been slowed down to a crawl for some reason. Unless the situation resolves itself in the next few hours, I will be simply unable to host or play. Currently, I get this result on Speedtest.net

http://www.speedtest.net/result/479114727.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Compared to:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/472252964.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Which isn't my best result...

[kanar]

hey dark, basically, yes. But feel free to adapt it (in the case you would want to host some races, later in the week). The main objective is to keep running the record tables (and host some good races of course lol), that simply means to host some no weapons races sometimes. I'll be online for 19h00 GMT, maybe sooner. I'll connect to WOZone chatbox, and we'll see how the things are going.

edit : ok Dark, no worries. Hope you could at least join us for some races.

[Darkdrium777]

Sorry kanar, I edited my post.
My internet is going through the crapper right now, if the problem doesn't fix itself I'm not going to be able to participate as I wanted to (let alone play online) :(

[eLhabib]

D777, I think the real problem with your internet is the low upload speed, that's what causes all the problems in online games, like vista pads and the like.
If anything, try to boost your upload speed.
Here's mine, and that's not even fast for european standards...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/479127761.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[lunar]

eL, that`s faster than anything in the UK, I think. Our military probably has something almost that fast to control the nuclear bombs and protect the queen and vital tasks of that nature.

JJPAP you have the most organised life of everyone here, I think. Brilliant.

I might get into a few races late tonight, but apart from that I don`t think I will be able to race. Thanks for the teasers, Kanar,(every one`s a classic :) ) and best of luck for the marathon ahead :coffee

[eLhabib]

Well, I did say european standards... ;)
As for Avalon - I will definitely try to join later at night, when I come home from a party (if I'm not too drunk then, that is...).
I'll also be on sometime in the afternoon, if anyone wants to warm up.

[kanar]

hey guys & gals, thanks a lot for the support again. Means a lot to me. Yeah 3 hours before the beginning of this marathon. Woaw, It's been 9 months that I'm playing this game now, you know, the hard way, always trying to find time in my real life for playing wipeout. I just realized that I couldn't continue this way for long. My Ps3 is about to experience YLOD (hope it won't happen this we lol), and I need to get back quickly to a more balanced life. That's why I think it's probably my last crazy week-end, before a real break this time.

Anyway, back to topic. As Archman will be busy, our mate ACE-FLO will host the PULSE session tonight (19H00 GMT). I really hope to race you all this we. May the BR & weapon pad be with you all.

[archman]

Always thanks for the help, Kanar, and I wish you a great time spending this Avalon moments with woz crew! ;)

[stin]

1900hrs for Pulse right?

stevie:)

[kanar]

yep 19h00 GMT+1/GB TIME for pulse & 18h30 GMT+1/GB TIME for HD. I can't say when it stops lol. Good bath Stevie!

GMT+1/GB TIME = GMT+2/FRANCE TIME

[archman]

Kanar, it says 19H00 !!GMT!! (EUR ZONE, GMT) on the first page! (Britain is on GMT+1 because of summertime!!) So, for Britain, it's 20H00, France is 21H00, just like Croatia. Or I misunderstood something from the first page? I apologize.

[kanar]

GAH this f*****g timezone stuff. I'm GMT+2, England is now GMT+1. Right. I'm fixing the first post. Well we can begin when we want anyway lol

[archman]

Ok, then 19H00 GMT, cause I already told ACE-FLO everything and time. I ****ing hate this daylight savings ****ing bullcrap!! But we must bear in mind that a crap summer time is on now. Unless someone wants to wait an aditional hour or be late an hour. :D

[Darkdrium777]

If anything, try to boost your upload speed.It's impossible. Everyone with my ISP has that, and we aren't about to change service providers when they're still giving us unlimited while other people who register now get bandwidth caps.

My internet is back to the 6mbps, so I should be able to play.

[AnErare]

Argh, I'm being delayed because of problems on the local railways.. I'll probably drop in the chatbox around 2000 Avalon Standard Time ;D

May the bends be with us :P

[ACE-FLO]

Hello everyone - As you've been infromed by Archman that I will be hosting tonights Pulse Avalon session, which is really Kanars legacy, I just wanted to take this opportunity to say I hope I can do this prestigious event some justice. I've not been a member long to this site, but have made many friends whom I race with regularly.

I feel honoured that I was asked to host tonight... Thank you Kanar and Archman for this decision.

Also I will be in contact with Avalon members who will be participating tonight through MSN messenger. Members who are participating - if you wish to engage in some fun chat inbetween races and during loading times, please PM me your MSN... I will then add you to my list.


I find these chat sessions to be full of laughs and helpful in getting to know other pilots better...

Other than that - I wish everyone participating tonight a happy and eventful evening/night full of the Mayhem and Madness we have come to know and love as Wipeout...

Hopefully we'll get thru all 48 races (24weps off and 24 weps on)

ACE-FLO (Air-Licker)

[AG-wolf]

I hopped on for a little bit... and promptly had my *ss handed to me on nearly every race I was in :P Especially those weapons-off races D: I even flew Auricom and my ship was MAN-HANDLED all over the place ;__; Maybe I'll try and join some more on saturday or sunday, but it's memorial day weekend so I may just spend the next three days at the beach.

[archman]

Let's kick it, mate!

[SaturnReturn]

Can I kick it too (in pulse)? I'll be there, just let me put my glasses on.

[RJ O'Connell]

I might be able to get into Pulse. MIGHT.

[blackwiggle]

No wonder ther has been so few posts at this forum in the last few hours.

Every Zoner that has ever read a single post here is ONLINE ATM.

Glad we all recognizance each other and group together [makes for better races]also helps when KANAR is not held singly responsible for this whole 3 day continuous event .

If you see a zoner hosting a race Phantom/no weapons then 90% chance this is a AVALON meet.

Guys can we make it that whoever takes over the AVALON meet while KANAR has a break creates a chat room and invites as many people as possible

[RJ O'Connell]

I am online with the PSP now, huzzah! Can't do HD this weekend cos I'm out of town and didn't bring the PS Triple with me.

EDIT: HOLY F*CKING BALL BAGS ON FIRE OUTPOST 7 BLACK IS THE WORST TRACK EVER MADE.

[KIGO1987]

Yes Outpost7 is a hard ****. A real challenging track. Sure does give the HD newbie pilots a good scare when they go on it for the first time expecting something basic

Really Really Great Pulse Avalon sessions, and an even better MSN chatbox going on;) , brilliant, all you guys would of loved it as well.

Thanks

ACE-FLO
Archman
Ash-Omen
blinky77 (RJ)
James
INFUCCKSU
Kaori
Kappeskopp
MrSmadSmartAlex
SaturnReturn
tveg (aka **** to some, lol)

Some really really fast **** was going down tonight, love Pulse online just insane crazy and fast. Looking forward to the next set of races guys:+

[archman]

+1 KIGO, thank you and every other pilot except infaxsu who participated on this awesome event! (4hrs shooh)!

--speechless---loling at the chat session!

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Thanks for that awesome racing guys! It was so hardcore that my brain is now running out of my nose.
Thanks to all who raced:+:+

Is this happening again any time soon?

And BIG thanks to ACE for hosting - great job mate!

[kanar]

Wow seems like the pulse session was a blast guys! Glad to read that. Well we had a blast on HD too. And 4 new records. Crazy Wotan. Ericd7m got metropia reverse too. Crazy night. Thanks a lot for the help SAturn & Darkdrium, and AnErare, and all the zoners who joined the races & the chatroom tonight.
I'll be around in the afternoon for more races. And Elhabib, I'll add these freaky 20 laps races this time ah ah.

Thanks to (my host) : Stinkleroy, tumutus, LLANTA18, Eddi82, Sukkermund, elboboesteparlo, keizerpinguinNL, blackwiggle, Bastoune-one, K_Haruki, Richxyz1, Mister_Mateo, AG-Wolf, Wotan998, Argusis, Haydn, cattmook, D4_wo, Amorbis, Zoth-Ommog, chaos80, JJPAP, Przemaspr, il_mago_di_Doz, speedy700, tug_14, astragale, I_Coin, ga8tan, INFINITY_1, AnErare, Bigi_PL, popcornxx, error321, ericd7m, TorquedSoul, erich123, turbo_alpha_male, BlackReign, yeldar2097, andre_dj, cedkiller11, portalist, Hametag, dudewithaname, axel210, bedorca, fabimus, Elhabib, texasalex, hellblast, spock500, D-yoyoG4, matt-obiwan44, ferald69

[RJ O'Connell]

Yes Outpost7 is a hard ****. A real challenging track. Sure does give the HD newbie pilots a good scare when they go on it for the first time expecting something basic
No, challenging is not what I'd call it, I'd call it "horrendously busted". Silverstream, Odessa Keys, and P-Mar Project are nice and cuddly compared to Outpost 7. Too many chicanes for a Wipeout track if you ask me. It's hard enough with the double hairpins.

[stin]

Well, took me 45mins of trying to get online last night but I was slightly late after my golf lesson.

However, I did played with Kappeskopp for a few races then my connection error came up and I was seriously pissed off with my friggen connections!:turd

Again, I will try my best tonight if I`m sober!:lol

stevie:)

[JJPAP]

Absolutely great HD sessions
The AG is not too fond of the red tasty fuel, though :dizzy
No leftovers.
Will go to the supermarket soon.
Tonight there´ll be tajine for everybody :lol

[archman]

Lol I got a bad rep point for my last post here, sounding like: dont dis the all-time best INFAXSU.

LOL at the one who continuously sends bad reps for nonsense. I'm not the only one that received your bad rep. ;)

[Darkdrium777]

Infaxsu clone account?

[KIGO1987]

Whos the dodgy **** that gave you neg rep?? INFUCCKSU is an idiot like i stated here before on this very thread, being an irritating turd to other members here at Wipeoutzone as well as on other forums. Saying **** like ACE-SLO and crap. Stupid pretty ponsy boy from manhatten. Someones got to cancel his clone account here if he's going to be pesky again. Cant mods like Lance chase after his IP address or something?

Still laughing at the chatbox sessions on MSN last night. God there where instant classics. Couldnt stop laughing. The track intro comments as well. Arc Prime Black, "Cant stop the signal? Windows Vista already did":lol"Flawless curves on Platinum Russ, loooooool XD!!!!" Damn funny stuff. Looking forward to the next rounds. Hope the power stays on here, weather here atm is crazy:cold.


No, challenging is not what I'd call it, I'd call it "horrendously busted". Silverstream, Odessa Keys, and P-Mar Project are nice and cuddly compared to Outpost 7. Too many chicanes for a Wipeout track if you ask me. It's hard enough with the double hairpins.

It is a bit of a shitty track when you think about it, those 3 successive tight hairpins are a real bitch.

[archman]

Hehehhe, KIGO, I love that you enjoyed it! It's pretty much always like that. Stay tuned for today's TeamLink Division Tournament!
Starting at 19h00gmt! Come join on msn 10mins before the start!
Can't wait! (Though my gf will be there 100% of the time, so I'll be, I guess, a little silent, because speaking to her)
Hey, you need this log of yesterdays chat? ;)

hhaha :D

[stinkleroy]

Great times last night, although today I feel like death ;) 9 Hours on HD is far too much for anyone lol. Thanks to everyone I raced last night, most fun I've had in ages :D

Definately looking forward to more tajine pappy :p

[ACE-FLO]

question: Who is the sad and lonely wiper who gives bad rep to anyone speaking the truth about his over sized and fragile ego?

Need another clue? Who got skooled by my buddy Smad on deKon W last nite (Smad only had the game a few months too) ?

Who races AG with cfw@333 and thinks they are a high fashion model?

answer: Gayfag-Sue... lol this guy leaves the weps off races coz he cant execute his cheats...

try as he may, he knows he's let himself down... and we're making sure he don't forget!

[KIGO1987]

Couldnt of said it better myself. Well i could of, if there was no swear filter here, lol.

What about in the final races. On Moa Therma white.

1, 2, 3 **** you INFUCCKSU in 4th, XD! lol.

Arch, James, Kigo, then pretty boy. Loved how he left the room after that race too:)

Anyhow enough talk of pretty boy. I think Kanar's May session of Avalon thread is going a bit off topic now.

[kanar]

ah ah not at all. Enjoyed to read that. I'm glad you kicked some asses on Pulse lol. Me & my ps3 will be operational in 35 mn, for a crazy 1st reverse go fast. Hope to see you all on the tracks. Watch out for the deadly 20 laps/br on debut!

[stin]

I decided not to play tonight due I`m just starting drinking (1400hrs) because, I`m seriously pissed off with my ****ing car!:turd, it will need a new fan belt! and I suppose to play an important golf tomorrow afternoon but I have no car!!!, so I will be meeting my commitee to kick up their arse!, so hopefully they will pick me up!;)

Sorry guys!

stevie:(

[yeldar2097]

1.46.60 for ericd7m on metropia R ;)

[RJ O'Connell]

Can't wait for today's PSP games, even though I'll probably end up last every race except on the easy tracks.

[ACE-FLO]

TeamLink is different - Last place dont really matter - its the teams overasll points that do - Like tesco says - every little helps lol

I know I'll be finishing last at any rate - but will be playing for the hell of it

Dont believe me? Check out the tables from what happened last time... Its embarrassing for me but waht the hey - all in the name of fun!!!;)

EDIT: offtopic but this is too funny - I just put "Welcome to the House of Fun" by Madness into my custom soundtracks for pulse - played with it too, offline and its just too damn funny and cool. Try it if you dare... Lol

[kanar]

Doh! the reverse go fast was stopped by a huge freeze airstrike. But we're still alive. Metropia R no guns, 2 races to follow. And after this reverse session, we'll start the crazy 20 laps ranking table! Online in 10 mn.

[ACE-FLO]

Sorry Kanar, RE: Infagsue: I couldnt help myself and had to do it....

Read what I wrote lol...

http://uk.gamespot.com/psp/driving/wipeoutpulse/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-49451271&pid=938816&msg_id=m-1-544042567#m-1-544042567

Just had to be done! ;)

[RJ O'Connell]

Speaking of MSN, feel free to invite me to the chats when they're up.

[ACE-FLO]

Definiely will do mate! Just PM me your MSN detail. Thanks.

[yeldar2097]

ubermall endurance - yeldar2097: 7.23.21
chen R - yeldar2097: 7.55.31
ubermall Rev rev endurance - wotan998: 7.20.76
every other track - wotan998: toooo fast :P

[kanar]

awwright. My go fast reverse/forward ended up -finally-. I've updated the record table. Ready to go back into WoW. Reverse tracks, 2 guns/2 without, and now the inFamous 20 laps race added definitely into the the tracklist ah ah. See u in 15 mn. AnErare, u still there? Kigo!! Where are you? lol

[yeldar2097]

my face is melting

[SaturnReturn]

Kigo's on Pulse with us in the TeamLink event.

[Darkdrium777]

Heh, the guy still hasn't learned his lesson. Sad, sad person that he is if he needs to pat himself on the back at every post.

[KIGO1987]

What the hell are you talking about there D777?

[Darkdrium777]

I forgot to quote ACE-FLO.

http://uk.gamespot.com/psp/driving/wipeoutpulse/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-49451271&pid=938816&msg_id=m-1-544042567

Talking about him, that guy in the thread there...

[KIGO1987]

Ah k, my bad. Mr Fuktard who gets cockabsorption alot these days.

By the way imense ****ing close races between TEAMS Monkeyarse and Fiat Pandas, great fun tonigh. Time to go onto HD and join the fun with AVALON HD 05/2009:D

[kanar]

ah ah right on schedule mate. I'm about to host the forwards in 10mn. great HD night lol.

[leungbok]

Fantastic avalon session tonight on the reverse tracks ! You still rocks, Kanar :+

[Amorbis]

I've had some great races so far this weekend. Endurance races are so intense, when you're 0.5 seconds ahead of Wotan the pressure can really get to you :eek. Regular racing was top notch too, too many good pilots to name! And too many pilots to blow up.

I should have recorded my Moa Reverse endurance time :brickwall. But someone will beat it anyway, so no loss really ;).

[ACE-FLO]

Can I kick it too (in pulse)? I'll be there, just let me put my glasses on.

You sure did kick it SR, in fact you rocked. Join the next TeamLink and Avalon pulse events please...

[SaturnReturn]

Dude, stop telling me I rocked. I came last in almost every race :D As I said, I was just happy not to get DNF. Without my regular 1 points we wouldn't have won. Of course the others coming in 1st,2nd,3rd helped a little too ;) That's what it was about for me tonight anyway- just get whatever points I could for the team. Pandas>Monkeys :p

[XBARNSTERX]

Great avalon races today kanar, thanks alot, particuliarly the no weapons, enjoy them.....looking forward to next lot:hyper

[kanar]

Where am I? Thanks a lot to everyone who joined. I'll probably need a rehave tomorrow ah ah.

thanks to Hn9354, JohnBaileys, LLANTA18, OLOuk, TarquinFarqhuar, Pokerflat84, oO_Wezzzley; Greenix, yeldar2097, ericd7m, Andybob35, chaos"Rapier Racer"80, tug_14, LOUDandPROUD, noumso8, elhabib, haydn, stinkleroy, amorbis, splitgczero, XBARNSTERX, AnErare, bio_dio, h55d, g85k, darius1230, mrtaurus86, valen541, z1r0rEi, m0nk3y286, dualparadox, grobeuh, freeman1021, dano94, erzed, pdkitten, finish_killer, richxyz1, wotan998, tommyboi1989, JJPAP, leungbok, theFroste, almaniaf, markabaya, stev_ben, wiyck, shenlong, darkknightvergil, jhak17, kal_126, microchino, sylvain2097, vagif, f-pina, Mister_Mateo, Mini-me2007, BarryPuma, golox_13, mouseman2, hominator, Lory1969vr, demodile, kut59, The_big_lebonski, KIGO, ruli, SaturnReturn, the_bald_eagle-1, AkFurtif, antiwarhero, cgjung, INFINITY_1, Mjolnir74, gemjnj, txworld, & luxo for moa rev lol

[archman]

Kanar, thank you for this organization and for promotion of TLD! Yesterday night powered by Avalon was a pure blast I have never felt before. It was hot racing, too damn tight, but the chat sessions...we need a topic for that. (everything is logged, lol!)

A big thank to all the participants: sox, ace, alex, SaturnReturn, James, KIGO and Asayyeah! You were all magnificent! ;) Stay tuned for the next event. The summer is here, heh! ;)

[kanar]

Hey Arch, I did nothing regarding pulse, I read you guys had a blast, and it's simply due to your -and ACE-FLO, and all your diehard PSP clan- dedication to organize a good meeting. Thanks a lot to Kaori too, who announced and supported the pulse meeting on WipeoutArena.

Wow I'm a little tired lol. But I really had a blast too with all the zoners I met online so far. Really, and to be honest, and that will be my last rant lol, I MISS 1.26. But when I see Wotan or other aces improving some times, I just can say to myself "well it's just practice, and good ping lol". I'm just talking about the joy of racing . I mean our opportunities to enjoy a perfect online race, perfectly feel your ship, and chain some PL, decreased with these focus killers such as vista pads & broken BRs. Not even mentioning the rest. Anyway, I'll probably be around on HD this afternoon for the last rushes. More endurance races guys? ah ah.

[KIGO1987]

Fantastic avalon session tonight on the reverse tracks ! You still rocks, Kanar :+

Get off HD and join us in Pulse next time leungbok you cranky old fart, be like the good old races of Pulse last year;)


Dude, stop telling me I rocked. I came last in almost every race :D As I said, I was just happy not to get DNF. Without my regular 1 points we wouldn't have won. Of course the others coming in 1st,2nd,3rd helped a little too ;) That's what it was about for me tonight anyway- just get whatever points I could for the team. Pandas>Monkeys :p

You did well on Moa. Goddam ships flying crazy in that race, i think you pulled of a 3rd in that race.


Kanar, thank you for this organization and for promotion of TLD! Yesterday night powered by Avalon was a pure blast I have never felt before. It was hot racing, too damn tight, but the chat sessions...we need a topic for that. (everything is logged, lol!)

A big thank to all the participants: sox, ace, alex, SaturnReturn, James, KIGO and Asayyeah! You were all magnificent! ;) Stay tuned for the next event. The summer is here, heh! ;)

****ing awesome weekend! Chating with ACE, im deffinatly up for this again soon. Just after my exams though. God those races and online MSN sessions where brilliant. Mega lol XD!


Hey Arch, I did nothing regarding pulse, I read you guys had a blast, and it's simply due to your -and ACE-FLO, and all your diehard PSP clan- dedication to organize a good meeting. Thanks a lot to Kaori too, who announced and supported the pulse meeting on WipeoutArena.

Wow I'm a little tired lol. But I really had a blast too with all the zoners I met online so far. Really, and to be honest, and that will be my last rant lol, I MISS 1.26. But when I see Wotan or other aces improving some times, I just can say to myself "well it's just practice, and good ping lol". I'm just talking about the joy of racing . I mean our opportunities to enjoy a perfect online race, perfectly feel your ship, and chain some PL, decreased with these focus killers such as vista pads & broken BRs. Not even mentioning the rest. Anyway, I'll probably be around on HD this afternoon for the last rushes. More endurance races guys? ah ah.

Ive got a really **** connection, which makes playing HD just really crap. But the really great news today ive received an email from my net providers, my ****ing 2year contract is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyper**** yeah!!. Means i can look for some decent connection now, non of this shitty pingy crap i get all the time. Kay now, what speed and contract shall i be looking at now guys??

[AnErare]

W000P, W000P, there's the internet police!

It's too bad some people take their advance, turn it around and make it backfire into the crowd..


But anyway! Yesterday was a quake-surfing, mind-boggling, face-melting, ds3-crunching, thumb-splitting, freeze-corrupting and lcd-screen-plasmafying day of HD races! Did I forget anything? :P

At one point we had 3 hosts with 2 of those entirely filled with avalon madness! Thanks for that, Darkdrium! :D I was starting to think we need the option to race with more ships, like 12 or even 16 to further increase the spirit ;P I even managed to recruit some hellishly fast snipers from Japan. Aka-sho we all know, as well as hn9354, but also rerealm and K_Haruki! Thanks for joining guys you are so fast and genius with the guns. I always had to be on guard, it's as if you never mis and when you guys hit it's real deadly momentum :D And the chats. Simply wicked! I like to joke around but this was stellar verbal action :D

Looking forward to more of the same for today :)

[OBH]

I've had some great races so far this weekend. Endurance races are so intense, when you're 0.5 seconds ahead of Wotan the pressure can really get to you :eek.

or when he smashes you into a wall to take the lead with only a few laps remaining ;)

great stuff all round. loved every minute of it. looking forward to a bit more today!

[kanar]

ok last dive into WoW for me. 14h30 here. Day3 finale. Let's disconnect a last time. Hope to see you around guys.

[LOUDandPROUD]

Thanks so much for the fun races yesterday...though I must apologize for my horrific performances. Yes, I'm about to make an excuse lol. I just got a brand new tv two days ago. Went from a 46-inch, floor-standing, 1080i, rear-projection unit to a 50-inch, wall-mounted, 1080p, plasma unit. So, in addition to a larger and far better picture (in regards to WO, the graphics are almost TOO good now, if that makes sense lol), my viewing perspective has changed, so it's totally thrown off my piloting. I really hope it's just a matter of getting used to it, as I'll be damn bummed if not. :| Anyone else experience something like this when upgrading their tv? Anyway, I'll be online to join the Avalon event again in a bit...see you all soon! :hyper

[eLhabib]

I went from a 24 inch monitor to a 46 inch tv (both 1080p) - took me about a week to really adjust, but in the end I think my performance has been improved due to better visibility of the track ;)

[AG-wolf]

Icaras, Icaras, AG-Systems, Icaras, AG-Systems, AG-Systems, Icaras, Icaras, Icaras, AG-Systems. Stop it, all of you :P

[eLhabib]

Word.

[LOUDandPROUD]

eLhabib,

Good to know...hopefully a week of getting used to my new setup will do the trick for me too. :)

[stin]

I went from a 24 inch monitor to a 46 inch tv (both 1080p) - took me about a week to really adjust, but in the end I think my performance has been improved due to better visibility of the track ;)

So that mean is...you don`t need your glasses! :P

stevie:g

[stinkleroy]

Thanks to everybody I raced this w/e. Awesome races and awesome people. And most of all thanks to Olivier for being utterly crazy :D

[JJPAP]

Before going to bed: Just want to say BIG THANKS to kanar for yet another Avalon. These events really means a lot!
And thanks to all of you racing The Avalon-tracks and joining the chat-room(s). Hillarious - sometimes I even had a hard time swallowing my tajine :lol
See you around The Kanarian Islands. Soon.

[chaos80]

I would also like to thank Kanar for hosting this weekend and everyone I've raced!! Had so much fun!! :D

[kanar]

Who oOh. Thanks to all who joined us for this crazy week-end. We spent great times together. AnErare! Thanks a lot for your help mate!! And by the way, you're the new chatbox MVP! (too bad KIGO couldn(t compete!). So much fun with all of you guys & gals. I really love these "wipeout unite" moments on the WZone chatbox. Regarding the races, weeeell. Wotan you confirmed you're one of the best hd pilot around. You're clearly a great MVP. And as usual, the MAGEC promotion is ****in amazing. Eric what did you do on metro reverse lol. And Luxo dfinitely settled in Moa Rev! There was definitely uber skilled wipers everywhere. I've just one regret, and as soo many wipers said it in the 1.40 thread, I'm really sad we had to play under these racing conditions. I remember the good times when we just moaned about the crazy ramming & physic. Now we pray before each race in order to have BRs, no glitches, no vista pads, no rockets in the ass, no 5 quakes per race, no uber Cambodia (Cambodia+Banda hache races), no microFreezes, no ram/respawn, no blah blah blah. This game became crazy. All these interferences that make you run away to offline mode. The Zone & wipeoutArena members are definitely the only efficient patch actually. So that's why I thank you all again for this week-end. We all had at least one moment of glory lol. And we shared it. Ok bedtime ah ah.

thanks for today!

eRZed, Luxoflux, ericd7m, Mus, Peh-Hok, JJPAP, MakyuraJT, DarkKnightVergil, Wotan, PKOve, P_Denton, kncb203, stinkleroy, AnErare, gambell, novide, fgdk, tug_14, AG-Wolf, erich123, Spoon_Meyer, finish_killer, SaturnReturn, UltraMegaAwesome, Topcat23, imre92, SHENLONG, drummer_man31, mikefive, Zoth-Ommog, roulmax, z1r0rEi, yeldar2097, LOUDandPROUD, GambitRF, reach-big7, Razovfsky, klocki_Lego, Bigi_PL, dariusz1230, aloria13, codante, mic-dk900, chaos80, freeman1021, Lloyd_87, madein83, jolek81, Phoenixgr, error321, fredyloco, DarksydeAnt, Alpha-2echo, Lory1969vr, kida409, markwijnants, Alex123321, bob_la_fatigue, Allastor, Haydn, gawic, xavlgx, Vaira, elois/Ankou, TcK, DrMannevond, Alterego, I forget XXX names sorry...

[SaturnReturn]

Hey kanar. I wasn't there much this weekend but thanks as usual for hosting. I think you had lots of backup from Darkdrium, AnErare, Kigo etc.

I have to give up all hope of a record now. The only ones I ever got close to have been improved upon so much. I can't even fathom how the guys achieve those times without boosts. Crazy! But they all deserve them, that's for sure.

Thanks to archman, ACE-FLO and co too for my Pulse introduction. I think this may be my main WipEout game from now on. Look out for me in the record tables soon :p

[tug_14]

Well, it was my first avalon .... pffff fast very FAST
Racing with all best pilot in the world show me my real level and i have to practice for the NEXT Avalon but it was a pleasure to meet them ( and fight them ) .

Thanks to hosters
Thanks to hoster's boss , Kanar obviously :)

PS : as me u saw the french team , they are ready for the world cup .
Ca va etre chaud as we say in french ...

Thanks to all , c u on next A........

[Darkdrium777]

Icaras, Icaras, AG-Systems, Icaras, AG-Systems, AG-Systems, Icaras, Icaras, Icaras, AG-Systems. Stop it, all of you :PHahaha seriously :lol
It's true though

[KIGO1987]

No i wasnt really up for Bandi Ache and Cambodia tonight, just bought a new controller, and i very much do not wish to break it.

As i said before on the 24th, yesterday, my stupid 2year internet contract with Dildo has finish, now i can shop for speed, what speed internet do i need for Wipeout HD to get zero lag guys?

Is 1.5mbps enough guys. Cause i think thats the only amount of speed i can get out of my shitty area??

[LOUDandPROUD]

Thanks again, Olivier...good times. I hope to get better by the next Avalon event, so I can be more competitive. Don't hold your breath though... :P

[Darkdrium777]

That's what I had before. Now I have 6MBps. There is still lag. It's not the connection, it's WipEout HD's God-awful netcode. :|

Even on the LANs at the Euro convention it was still the same thing.

I'll say again: 1.5MBps doesn't cut the lag. At all. It might help for Vista related problems (I have 6MBps and even less Vista messes), but not the collisions and etc. There's still as many.

[ACE-FLO]

Hello Superstar Pilots of the Anti-Gravity circus we love... Avalon May Day will never be forgotten by me. This has been the most fun I've ever had with wipeout in ... well, since WO1... Thanks to Kanar, the unity you've helped to create is now a legacy... Nuff Respect.

I will be posting the results for the Avalon pulse session tomorrow on this thread! Sorry for being late with this... but I've been on MSN for most this evening with Kigo, RJ and even Saturn for a bit. Very funny moments on MSN with Kigo.

[eLhabib]

That's what I had before. Now I have 6MBps. There is still lag. It's not the connection, it's WipEout HD's God-awful netcode. :|

Even on the LANs at the Euro convention it was still the same thing.

I'll say again: 1.5MBps doesn't cut the lag. At all. It might help for Vista related problems (I have 6MBps and even less Vista messes), but not the collisions and etc. There's still as many.

It's not the netcode. I have no lag at all. Ever.
It's the upload speed you have to worry about.

[Darkdrium777]

Upload doesn't have an influence on the packets you receive from other players. That's download. And I'm sorry, but if WipEout HD requires your type of connection, it's still the netcode that's badly optimized :lol
FYI I played Motorstorm, a physics dependent racing game, also by Evo/SL. No lag. I play FPS online, no such lag... It's WipEout HD, it's the only game I know that I've ever played online that seems to "forget" it's offline code and act up completely randomly and very often at your disadvantage online. Because seriously, there's no reason for the collisions to be this penalizing online, while offline they're still ok. That's a problem with the game, not with anything or anybody else.
And lets not mention the vista pads and the barrel rolls. Barrel rolls first and foremost shouldn't be affected by lag, they are performed on the client side! Yet they are! Ridiculous :lol When you shoot or turn or steer or whatever in other games, it works, there is just a delay between you pressing and the action being performed (the ping). In WipEout HD, there's no such thing as ping, everyone lags xD Truly terrible. :lol It's funny but it's sad at the same time, because it's really fun to play online.

And yeah, just to prove my point: look at the ships in the euro convention videos, see how they behave? Exactly like online! Yet you're on a LAN! a LAN! That's direct! NO PING! There's no downloading or uploading, yet it acts the same as if it were! But I suppose it's the upload speed that's got to do with it... [/sarcasm]

[kanar]

Just woke up. Ah, nothing's better than a good day at work after a great wipeout week-end... :turd... Seriously, and to go back on topic, Darkdrium I can understand you. Elhabib, you know we're not talking exactly about lag issues or bandwitch problems. I mean for my part, I just stated, after 9 months & 2 updates, that something went wrong somewhere. I remember the days we plugged 2 ps3 & hosted 2 rooms at my place... Seriously my ISP hasn't decreased my connection band. I believe there are interferences between 1.30/1.40 & sony new firmwares & different series of hardware maybe... wrong CELL process... I really dunno. I just don't understand how a nearly perfect online experience turned into something that make me questioning myself like that. I've never felt such frustration when playing before last month. Which is seriously crazy. And LOL this is not because you guys kicked my ass the entire week-end, I was used to that before ah ah. Gah the good old days. Anyway, I'm lurking from the start at this fantastic zone mode lol. This game has infinite gameplay doh. And the sun is shining, the weather is hot, I want to play basket-ball too lol.

see you soon my friends. Best online community ever.

[Wotan]

Thanks a lot to kanar and the wipeout community, for this absolutely crazy weekend . It ruined my health, once again (especially enduro tour who was very hard) .The chatroom was too nutcase, I laughed a lot, although I have to admit that I didn't still understand everything (isn't it stink ? ^^).

Thx everyone, again ounce. See you ;)




I have to give up all hope of a record now. The only ones I ever got close to have been improved upon so much. I can't even fathom how the guys achieve those times without boosts. Crazy! But they all deserve them, that's for sure.


I'm sure you can beat some records, ubermall in particular. I saw your yputube's video , and if you content with making the shortcurt without br, for use it somewhere else you will spare time ;).

[alterego]

Hi Kanar, hi all!

What better than an avalon session after a twelve hours basketball sunday tournament!

yesterday evening my tired 46 years old body relaxing in a Ag Sys cockpit at phantom speed!!!!

I want to thank kanar, Anerare and JJpap for the hosting and all the wipers that kick my arse yesterday evening....what a mega community this is...... and all in name of velocity and friendship!

wow!!!

Read You soon
cdrom

[blackwiggle]

Sorry I couldn't participate past the first hour of this weekend's wipeout marathon .
Just couldn't keep my eyes open with all the flu medication ,I kept dozing off [very embarrassing ] while I was online,
Slowly coming good,but still feel like I have personally walked into a bomb without craft protection [ringing in the ears etc]

Glad to see SO many Zoners participating,this has really become "THE' event for all that truly LOVE this game.

VIVA AVALON !

[eLhabib]

@D777: fair enough. The game really does behave differently online than off, which is weird, to say the least. I'm not sure that's a lag issue, though.
What I understand by lag is ships jerking around the track, disappearing into walls and then reappearing in front of you, and the like. I haven't had that one single time since I upgraded my internet connection.

[yeldar2097]

I'm not sure BRs are to do with the netcode (i don't know if anyone said they were, i'm just saying :)) because I have just as many issues forcing a BR offline as I do online. As a matter of fact, my online BRs this weekend were more consistent than my offline one's
*offline = single race NOT tt/sl
[/OFFTOPIC]

kanar i love you - you're THE man
wotan i hate you - you're too fast
everyone else.....ummm....you're all great as well
:D

[guillaume]

And yeah, just to prove my point: look at the ships in the euro convention videos, see how they behave? Exactly like online! Yet you're on a LAN! a LAN! That's direct! NO PING! There's no downloading or uploading, yet it acts the same as if it were!
LAN? I thought HD didn't support it?

[eLhabib]

Well if you remember, guillaume, at the convention we had what you could call a LAN. The way it works (I suppose) is that the online servers are there only to connect the players to each otherm but once the race is started, traffic doesn't go over the servers, but rather directly peer to peer. That's why we had NO LAG AT ALL at the conv.

[guillaume]

oooh, right! Thanks for the enlightment! :)

[KIGO1987]

I wish i had a lag free connection. I cant even upgrade to ADSL2+ cause this ****ing bullshit area doesnt offer it. Not Happy.

AVALON was quite fun this weekend, even i was on the PSP format over the PS3 format. Looking forward to the next round:g Good times ahead;)

[KGB]

Sorry i couldn't make AVALON at all, I'm trying to put a new bathroom in, so I am up to my neck in :turd.

Well done again Kanar

Next time I will be there ;)

[ericd7]

Thanks Kanar and all wipers for this week end, it was great.
Waiting for the next :hyper

[Darkdrium777]

eLhabib, you are right about one thing: there is no lag per se on the convention vids, but there is still something wrong with it: if the game acted properly on the LAN, both ships when they hit each other would repel each other, right? But it doesn't, it does the same thing as if it were two players distant hundreds of kilometers one from the other. You get pushed away but the other ship acts like an impenetrable wall.
And then we have the lines the other ships take. You were all good players at the convention, yet doesn't it look like all the other ships are scraping the walls in the turns, they go directly to the outside line and follow the turns then? The exact same thing happens online, and you see players going through the walls when there is a lot of lag. But it's something good players do not do, they always take the inside lines, not the outside ones...
Both of these things happen on the LAN and online though, which means it's not related to the internet connection you have, it's related to WipEout HD. And as I said, I've played Motorstorm, you'd expect, if it's related to the internet connection, that I would have had the same kind of issues, only made worse by the fact that Motorstorm is reliant on physics and interactions between the cars. But there is nothing wrong in Motorstorm. In fact, I have yet to be hit by a car and driven into a wall, and then that car teleporting instantly some distance away like it had not hit me. Something that happens a lot in WipEout HD. Sure I've had the occasional prediction code fail, where the car appears to crash in the wall, but then appears as a ghost and keeps on going, but that only happens on your end. In WipEout HD it seems the prediction code always fails, as you have the ships constantly following the outside line in turns (Have you ever seen a ship online take the inside line on the first turn at VinetaK forward? I have never). You'd expect the packets you receive from other players to correct this situation fairly quickly and show the ship where it actually is sometimes, but it never happens. And you get that even with your connection I am certain.
That's why I say something is wrong with the netcode/prediction whatever. In Motorstorm there isn't this issue of the player always looking like he's performing some kind of action, when in fact he's never doing it, in Killzone 2 there isn't the issue of a player going one way and in fact he's going the other the whole time, in UT3 there isn't this issue, in Warhawk there isn't this issue, etc.
I wish WipEout HD would be better optimized for this myself (Which is my whole point really), but it's been there since forever, even in Pulse although a lot less (It only happened when there was packet loss, now it happens all the time), and it's never been fixed. For the next game I hope they work on it, or at least use some of the AI code for prediction, that way if you lose packets between players, the ship AI takes over until the next packet. This way you have no ships scraping or going through walls, they are where they appear to be.

[ACE-FLO]

As promised - here are the results for the Avalon Pulse Session:

Round 1: Weapons on

Track 1st Place Time

Talons Junction W.............Infaxsu................1:59:71
Talons Junction B..............Infaxsu................Time not recorded
Moa Therma W.................Arch595esc...........2:03:86
Moa Therma B..................Kaori714...............2:02:75
Metropia W......................Infaxsu................1:42 :88
Metropia B.......................Kappeskopp..........Time not recorded
Arc Prime W.....................Infaxsu................1:56: 77
Arc Prime B......................Infaxsu................1:57 :32
De Konstruct W................MrSmadSmartAlex..1:40:49
DeKonstruct B..................Infaxsu................1:44:28
Tech De Ra W..................Infaxsu................1:55:33
Tech De Ra B...................Arch595esc..........1:53:25
The Amphiseum W.............Infaxsu................2:06:64
The Amphiseum B..............Arch595esc..........Time not recorded
Fort Gale W.....................Infaxsu.................Time not recorded
Fort Gale B......................Kaori714...............Time not recorded
Basilico W.......................Arch595esc...........1:32: 88
Basilico B........................Infaxsu................ 1:37: ??
Platinum Rush W..............Infaxsu.................Time not recorded
Platinum Rush B...............Infaxsu.................1:52:36
Vertica W.......................Kigo1987...............1:3 9:31
Vertica B........................Infaxsu.................T ime not recorded
Outpost 7 W...................Kappeskopp............2:06:13
Outpost 7 B....................Infaxsu..................2:07 :18

Round 2: Weapons Off

Talons Junction W............Infaxsu.................1:55:39
Talons Junction B.............Arch595esc...........1:58:51
Moa Therma W................Arch595esc...........2:02:71
Moa Therma B................ Not Raced
Metropia W.....................James_sp..............1:43:3 2
Metropia B......................James_sp..............1:49: 85
Arc Prime W....................Arch595esc...........1:56:24
Arc Prime B.....................Arch595esc...........1:57:32
De Konstruct W...............MrSmadSmartAlex...1:41:90
De Konstruct B................Arch595esc...........1:44:71
Tech De Ra W.................James_sp..............1:53:91
Tech De Ra B..................Arch595esc...........1:53:71
The Amphiseum W............Arch595esc...........2:09:13
The Amphiseum B.............Arch595esc...........2:15:91
Fort Gale W....................James_sp..............1:37:74
Fort Gale B.....................Arch595esc...........2:11:39
Basilico W.......................Arch595esc...........1:31: 31
Basilico B........................James_sp..............1:3 7:74
Platinum Rush W..............Arch595esc...........1:49:92
Platinum Rush B...............Arch595esc...........1:51:06
Vertica W.......................Arch595esc...........1:38: 91
Vertica B........................Arch595esc...........1:53 :53
Outpost 7 W...................Arch595esc...........1:59:25
outpost 7 B....................Infaxsu.................1:59: 84

Wow - eyes are hurting... too much data entry... lol

Thanks to all who participated - was an excellent way to spend Friday night! 4 hours of madness and mayhem on track and laughter whilst on MSN lol - must do again!

... Peace!

[KIGO1987]

****ing awesome sessions on Pulse i gotta say.

Lol. Only got Day1 Vertica White. Love that track, not a much as Moa though. Gotta Love Moa;)

[ACE-FLO]

Glad you wrote that about Moa Therma. Also one o my faves too. A long and wide track, where the races are almost guaranteed to be tight... and carnage heavy, yeah - you gotta love Moa... good call!

[INFINITY_1]

Awesome weekend , Thanks to Kanar and the other pilots.:clap:clap:clap

[AnErare]

That list looks awesome Ace, damn that's been a wicked tournament! My HD experience far outweighs the joy I got from racing pulse online but I might join you guys in the next Avalon :)

HD has been so damn hot over the weekend. At one point there were 3 hosts providing Avalon wickedness, every time it's seems to attract more and more pilots from more and more countries. Most of the "new" people scare away if they realise its going to be 4 races PER track but a lot stick around and persist anyway. I hope the next will be even better. Kanar your idea has truly become legendary! Big thanks to you man. :nod

During breaks I often chose to remain on guard while manoeuvring my ship into a tactical spot out of the starting grid. To both not hit anyone at the start and have a good view of the passing pilots. This has shown me some great moments with close finishes but also the occasional pilot pasing straight through my ghosted ship while I was looking rearview! Frenzy! Amorbis once passed through me as if he was trying to take my skin along ;D Amazing action. I almost had the impulse to start a fight or shift aside, couldn't decide because I knew I didn't have to do anything ;)

5 Fly Hi Platinum Ica Darts to you Kanar.

[ACE-FLO]

Yes AnErare, the sessions were very tight and intense. This Pulse revival has become a success with so much talent gracing the pulse servers, its ensured the longevity of this format.

And now, with TeamLink Division thrown into the scene, dare I say us Pulsers have a new lease of life too...

Adding to the already anticipated Pulse Avalon events, this is nothing short of a revolution! Please do join us soon!

[eLhabib]

D777, maybe the netcode for HD is worse than Motorstorm's, but the things you were talking about, with ships not being displayed on their actual racingline - that's terrible! And no, I don't have that! Don't really see it on the conv videos either... :?
I'm pretty sure when I am racing online, that the other ships get displayed pretty much exactly where they actually are...

[Darkdrium777]

You should look closely then. :) Because it always happens. At least for my type of connection. And it shouldn't, if it doesn't happen in Motorstorm. That's my point. :)
And because it happens, you get the ridiculous collisions with it. :|
Again, look at every turn on every track: I don't have your connection but I'm placing a bet that never you will see a ship close to the inside wall on a turn. Because it most certainly never happened at the convention. :)
Just look at yourself in this video (http://www.wegame.com/watch/European_WipEout_Convetion_2009_HD_Tournament_Divi sion_1_Tour_3_Race_1/), and look at the weapon pads. :)

[SaturnReturn]

Has anyone ever made a thread specifically to discuss lag? The lag issue seems to come up in every Avalon thread so maybe the topic deserves its own. The discussion and theories are actually very interesting, especially looking at the videos. A whole topic on theories about what is happening, an individual's interpreation of lag, why it's happening etc, could be a good read. It would be much easier to find the info and it would show up in thread searches too. Anyone wanna start one?

[KIGO1987]

Lag....

Had a Marketing lecture yesterday.

Professor gave me a question

Why do new products on the market today always have a very high chance of failure?

My Response to the class was,

They are built inferior and shitty that is why they fail.

Was thinking about the terrible lag i always get. That is why i gave that answer.

[KGB]

Saturn: I asked this question a while ago, not many replies at the time. :)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5724

[Darkdrium777]

Time to bump this thread then.