Website for Global Rankings

[Connavar]

Look at it this way: if you enter all your times now, sure you'll be low ranked
(but you're FAR from being last, right?) and then you improve them little by
little and you'll see yourself going up ranks, which should motivate you.

Now if you only keep the best ranks, what you'll have is an artificial global
ranking, not representing your true rank, is this what you want?
What's the fun in this? You won't even want to play anymore if you know you're
adding worse times and risk going down.

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

I will stop "complaning"and try to better my records :+.

Cpould you still give me the formula for the detonator and zone part for my excel-sheet.

Thxs
prttoettoet:hyper

[Connavar]

1000*exp[(score-best)*0.6/score]

[prttoettoet]

Thxs Connavar

[Motorsagmannen]

wth... i got a #1
how did this happen without me noticing :eek?
must have been some tournament, anyways yaay finally :beer

[Connavar]

New package has been sent, will be online soon I guess.

1) Filters like column sorting, page # ... are now kept in memory, so you can
sort by total points in the overall rankings, then browse the pages.
(prttoettoet you can do this!)

Also the < and > buttons keep those filters in memory, so if you go to page 5
then check someone's matrix then come back with <, it'll return to page 5!
Sounds stupid but it's very useful!

2) Right click on someone => popup menu will appear and you can do:
- view profile
- view matrix (useful to quickly check someone's matrix)
- select (= same as left click)

3) Can view times in the matrix (wasn't working before) + can edit/add them
inside the matrix too (that was a requested feature, now it's done!).
Have to right click on a cell => EDIT or SELECT (same as left click)
This is SUPER USEFUL, thanks to whoever had the idea! :+

4) Automatic clone time replacement.

This version was just about polishing the existing features, still need to
improve the chat a little bit, and the user page, and then we'll have the
events page running!

[Constrictor]

Hi Connavar!

It stared yesterday (I think) that I'm not able to utilize your service w/ my favorite browser (seamonkey 2) any more. IE8 works :rolleyes:

The pages shows a static interface with working pull downs but without showing any results. No changes I do in the filters section will change it. It is stuck without showing any results. And yes I cleared caches/cookies allowed all scripts :dizzy

Error console shows this:
Warning: Use of getBoxObjectFor() is deprecated. Try to use element.getBoundingClientRect() if possible.
Source File: http://wipeout-rankings.mooo.com/
Line: 0

+hth

[Connavar]

I'm going to download this browser and make the site work on it!
Already got Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome in addition to
Firefox of course, for that sole purpose :)

Edit: Everything works fine!! Maybe you disabled cookies or something?

[chboing]

bravo ! perfect update :)

[ProblemSolver]

@Connavar: I wish I could say more than simply Thank you! You've put
some serious work into it, your website is a real contribution to our
community. :+ And it gets better every time. Fantastico! :clap

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

pretty cool. I still have two questions:

-could there be a matrix with all the recordtimes
-how do I get better times :D:D e.g. the times of yeldar2097

greetings
prttoettoet

[Constrictor]

Hi Connavar! I'll check further on my side. Other OSs and SM2.0 installations. Maybe it's just the crappy MacBook :P I'll keep you posted.

btw, as Seamonkey 2 is Gecko there should be no issues compared to FF, Camino, kameleon and others

[Connavar]

Hi, yeah there could be, I'm not convinced it would be useful though...
You can always check the bot matrix :D

How to get better times? This has already been discussed in other topics,
I think you already know the tracks and all modes, so for you:
- make sure to really optimize your racing lines, you often need to be as close
to the walls as possible, without hitting them
- master advanced techniques: sideshift, barrel rolls, good located turbos
- keep beating your ghost!!
- watch some of his videos, then ask yourself if you can do the same, and
if not, then why?
- also, if you can record some videos yourself, yeldar himself will be able to
tell you what you need to improve :)

I don't think you'll reach yeldar level very soon (I'm still far from him), but you
can get closer.

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

thxs for your answer :+ but I know that I suck and I know my capacities. :-:redface: Still I love the game. :beer

[Connavar]

Man I just checked your worse records ... improve your detonator records ASAP
haha, I also need to improve them, Hellfire did a great tutorial about it, check it
out, this will help you for sure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxSMzRbwlo

Also zone, about zone: just do it over and over again until you stop hitting the
walls.

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

I've seen that video but I still don't know how to play it. If I look at the bombs, I don't see the track. If I look at the track, I don't see the bombs. I hate detonator (I suck) but I know it is killing my ranking. The same for Zone. I can handle it till Zone 35 (Zen) and then the game is over for me. I have looked several movies with respect, but it isn't my thing. Another things about the records: can it be true that 1 person has all the records for detonator, sometimes with 150 k difference?

Still it would be nice if there were some tips and "tricks. E.g. fastest lap, Vineta k, venom. I use the boost at the start, have br's and good lines (I think). Still the record is 3,5 seconds quicker. I really don't know how to do this .......... Yelder help....

Greetings
prttoettoet

[Constrictor]

Ref: my special SM2.0 issue.

It seems it is on my side - but I don't have a clue why. Other system, same OS same setup same Browser does work :blarg

On the faulty system I started the jscript debugger and got this in jquery.js (Sizzle CSS Selector Engine)

#0: function anonymous() in <http://chboing.free.fr/wipeout/js/jquery.js> line 19
#0: function anonymous(K=MouseEvent:{0}) in <http://chboing.free.fr/wipeout/js/jquery.js> line 19

This happens when I try to use the < and > buttons on the right side of the pulldowns (e.g. matrix, recent, overall, ...) w/ Apply

btw, I have no clue what I'm doing as my jscript skills are nil and me debugging jscript is like being good at detonator or zone. Will never happen.

I'll check later again

[Connavar]

Vineta is an exception because you can do a Boost+Boost+BR+BR at the start!!
So don't worry...

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6200
(Check blackwiggle's post :) )

About detonator: it's more important to look at the track, and never hit walls,
and then if you randomly fire when there are bombs, you should stay alive,
charge your EMP too!

[ProblemSolver]

... Another things about the records: can it be true that 1 person has all the records for detonator, sometimes with 150 k difference? ...
Well, I can tell you. It's because he is and can be dedicated like nothing else
if you put him on a good challenge. We've worked out together how to score
with maximum efficiency and also found some nice little tricks. ;) You wouldn't
believe how involved the scoring is and when you have to do the right thing to
get the most out of it.

Edit: His records are all for real, I've seen him doing most of them while sitting
right next to him.

[Connavar]

Oh you guys are friends? Geez the Zone virus is spreading in Germany!

[ProblemSolver]

Yeah good friends. He actually bought a PS3 while seeing me zoning. :D
I think he would also be one of the best in other modes if he wouldn't play
cs that much.

[prttoettoet]

Maybe he has some tips for a loser?

[ProblemSolver]

Have you read through the 'Detonator mode (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6522)' thread? DD already posted
a big tutorial over there (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143166&postcount=93). If you grasp all this and become really good then
there is still something sHoqa can tell you, if he likes to do so.

[Connavar]

New change in overall rankings, records with a Ratio lower than 150 points,
are not taken into account for this overall ranking, meaning that some people
gained a few positions while others lost.
(They will still count as 2/3 of your average without them)

[ProblemSolver]

What about a default flag for those that haven't set any? The indentation bugs
me quite hard. :nod

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

only some another small modifications and I will be the No. 1 :hyper:hyper:hyper

Maybe because I'm dutch or suck at detonator???

prttoettoet

[ProblemSolver]

Well, prttoettoet, if you pay Connavar 1000 EUR per month then he might
set you on position 1 per default. ;)

[prttoettoet]

Is he so expensive?

ProblemSolver, I will tell you a secret (i am the bot). Don't tell anybody.

[Connavar]

Haha... something like this: if (name=='prttoettoet') score=(score+2000)/3 ? :P

ProblemSolver: I just tried with an invisible flag, but it looks bad.
Can you give me an empty flag like [wipeout] flag, that would fit?

[ProblemSolver]

Will do.

[Connavar]

Tried with a border, looks bad, then a simple question mark: not bad,
and now i just tried a simple grey cross (5x5 pixels), and it looks ok!

[OBH]

A teeny-tiny-annoyance = you cannot right click players names in the chat window :)

really, really wish the event bit worked.

[Rezatron]

I have a big suggestion for the site and would like opinions whether it would be worth to implement. The Player Profiles are now easier to access but are quite bare, what about giving each player the option of entering their stats from the 7 pages of statistics in the game? It really tells you a lot about a pilot! Perhaps even some of these stats can be used as new ranking criteria. If this was implemented it would be great if looked like is does in game (graphs etc).

[Connavar]

OBH: It worked before in the chat but I disabled it, should it show the same
options or something else? Don't worry about the events, coming soon!

Rezatron: good idea, but it would involve a lot of work, not sure if people will
be ready to enter them... anyway there will be more stats, right now it's only
showing the minimum.

[Koleax]

although i should say if you can beat the best players so easily on this one track then it should transfer to the others without question.
I don't think I ever claimed it was easy. I had rare luck with boosts to help me, though. You should not expect that luck to transfer to the others without question. And if you're only looking at the times on Connavar's site, that would mislead you, since I don't update them.

[Connavar]

With an insane number of turbos combined with very good racing, it's
possible to beat any world record, trust me you need both, not just the turbos,
because other top players had both luck and near-perfect racing with BRs etc.

So what kgb meant is that even without so many turbos, you would still have a
good time, albeit not a WR, on other races, just because of your racing skills.
And now if it doesn't show up, then your time is most probably glitched.
Again I say "probably", for everything is possible.

As a matter of fact, I think I will use such a rule for the BOT, to only allow WR
from players having a good ranking already. What do you guys think?

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

I fully agree, I hope my WR's will be counted.:D

A question, in my ranking system the are only 415 records, but I gave in 440 records. So I suppose that 25 records are to "good" :+ Can I see which records those are (prob. zone and detonator) and which points/time I have to achieve to get it rewarded as a record??

Greetings
prttoettoet

[brainbeat]

ive got a good rank now but when i got wr on tech de ra mp it was my 1st high score was in top 1000 on most times that were up from early days, about 80 records, i stopped playing and came back about 3 months ago

could be unfair in some cases, not that theres gonna be many new plyrs now.

[Connavar]

prttoettoet: the 25 missing ones are your 25 sub 150 points records.

[prttoettoet]

Ok thanks, I will work on it.

maybe you have to change this by Zone AP en AP return, because here the records are so extreme.

prttoettoet

[Effedieffe]

I got another idea, what about having a "Users" filter sortable in alphabetical
order or by flag and on the side of each nick a checkbox where you can select
your watched players, then a "Watched Racers" filter to use to keep in touch
of your friends or "enemies" :D progress?
And in each profile with some nice stats a "Watching" and a "Watched by"
window.
Hope I explained well :rolleyes:

[Constrictor]

Hi Connavar,

whatever you or myself (I'm innocent) did - my SM2.0 glitch vanished and it's working again as it should.

btw, nice features added

btw^2, RFE for the profile. The statistics in WOHD could be (partly) transferred to the profile. Like overall playtime to date, win/loss ratio and stuff. Whatever makes sense and is interesting.

[JJPAP]

Hi Connavar :)
Thanks a lot for the updates - brilliant!

Could you please explain a bit ´bout how this Events-thing works? In theory it sounds like a very good implementation, but I´m a bit uncertain how to use it for upcoming events.

Cheers :+

[shapealot]

hi connavar updates are great :+

can you change the bot on SL TJ rev venom i beat the bot and cant add my time 32.42 bot is set at 32.60

thanx in advance

edit: i think psynadir's time on the amphiseum rev venom SL is a glitch, only 4 speed pads

[leungbok]

i think psynadir's time on the amphiseum rev venom SL is a glitch, only 4 speed pads
Yeah, suspicious record (like Divykecks on sebenco venom) ! Maybe you can ask him if he can make a video ! Who knows ?

[shapealot]

i hope you dont mind i took the liberty of changing the bot myself i set it at 32.10 is that ok?

[leungbok]

Who else than the owner of the record can appreciates what can be the possible maximum ? :)

[SaturnReturn]

Agree with Leungbok. Connavar asked everyone originally to enter times themselves if they had a good idea of what the Bot time should be. It might not be a good idea now though for people to know they can do this. If they accidentally get it wrong, then what happens? There could also be those that would abuse it, as anyone can access the site I think. If it's easily undone though then there might not be an issue. Possibly something for Connavar to consider though.

[yeldar2097]

Appoint some "Bot" mods :D

[Vartazian]

Speaking of Bots and the Like. I found a bug where my Times wouldnt upload. Very frustrating when im just trying to eliminate some very poor times I had in the past and im stuck with poor scores.

[Connavar]

Bot Mods will be elected soon.

[yeldar2097]

Can I pretend that was my idea?

Thanks :+

:lol

...still working out how to do events (i'm a bit thick see ^_^) :g

[Connavar]

Vote is over, the following players have been elected as Bot Mods:

yeldar2097, xbarnsterx, pirhapac, Connavar, Leungbok, chboing, phaeton_pl,
Rezatron, shapealot, Wotan998, AkFurtif, ericd7m, kingheim, Elois-13, pafduck,
JFthebestJan, BlochNWhitey, Luxoflux, IH8YOU, SaturnReturn.

so they'll have the right to modify the bot (when the next patch comes).
Congratulations!

By the way, a friend found me a new host, so the address will change soon.

[prttoettoet]

Damn it,

I'm not a Bot Mod :brickwall

prttoettoet

[Rezatron]

Connavar, since last week's update i've noticed a small bug. When the 'overall' filter is selected is resets the track to 'ALL'

Maybe this was done on purpose? dunno

[Connavar]

If you have chosen a mode, track and class, then doing GLOBAL is the same as
doing ALL, so when you do GLOBAL now, it sets track to ALL, you always need
1 of the first 3 filters to be ALL.

[phaeton_pl]

Thanks guys, it's a pleasure to be in such an extrordinary group. :hyper

An idea:

- would that be difficult to display "overall matrix" with a top player name in each cell? Something like all, all, all, all, all filter but showed as matrix? See picture (great design work in MS Paint)

Difference in colour could depend on how many top records player have.

[prttoettoet]

Hi Phaeton,

I find this a very very good idea: my name on those places :+:+:+

but ........... I'm just dreaming. I print your picture and put it above my bed :D

greetings
prttoettoet

[Connavar]

Yeah good idea, I can do that if you want!

UPDATE: use this website now:

http://wipeout.gamerstats.net

don't use the other one anymore.

[prttoettoet]

Also with my name in it (I would pay you, I already do).

[shapealot]

thanx connavar it would be a pleasure to be a bot mod :P

[Connavar]

phaeton_pl: I did the names matrix, but the color is based on:
the record name holder + the player name in the [edit] box (or your name if it's
empty), the goal was to easily differentiate people ... but sometimes it might
not look good (like 2 good players having the same colors), just play with player
names (in the edit box) until it looks good!

[phaeton_pl]

Looks cool,
I can see that 20 names covers 80% of a matrix, can we give them a colour manually?
yeldar2097 gets black as he own most records,
XBARNSTERX gets white as 2nd best to make a difference,
3rd gets dark red,
4th gets dark blue,
5th gets dark green,
6th dark grey,
7th dark yellow,
8th light red
9th light blue
10th light green
....

Just an idea, dont know will that look good....

[Connavar]

That's a very good idea about alternating colors, I had thought about it too,
so it confirms :) Yeah only a few players cover most of the matrix, but here I
did a very quick method, based on a XOR operation on the names, it still works
better than nothing, I will implement another color system later, thanks for
the help! If you have more ideas, don't hesitate, the goal is to optimize this
website to 200%.

[amplificated]

You should probably update the original post to include the new URL

[Connavar]

Done, is someone motivated enough to create a good guide,
like to replace the first post?

[prttoettoet]

Hi Connavar,

I saw that you put in the name of the recordholder. Couldn't you also put in the record (Elite-record). Than I can print my own records and the overall records and can easily see where to better my records. The bots aren't complete.

greetings
prttoettoet

[yeldar2097]

Hey conna! Just wondering if it is still possible to edit other people's times. I was trying to put in a new time for Luxoflux last night but it wouldn't let me (just after I put my time in so there's no problem there).
If not, no problem, I'll just tell Lux not to be so lazy :lol

[shapealot]

@vartazian bin tryna beat youre flash MH TT, bin pullin my hair out coz i keep missin 1 BR. anyways ended up equaling ya time 1.43.69 only to find it was .10 faster on connavars site, is it a typo or have i gota keep tryin... i hope its a typo i cant take it anymore lol

edit: connavar i cant enter my time on moa rev venom TT, ive checked the bot but its a second quicker.
1.49.37 24 speed pads

[Effedieffe]

Hi Connavar, since a few days I can't edit my times in the site, I logged in but the time I wish to edit returns to the previous state. I tried the main browsers in Mac and Win platforms.

[shapealot]

all my other times are goin in fine apart from that moa time in my last post

[chboing]

i tried to do something, but didnt succeed
sorry

[shapealot]

thanx for trying anyway mate

[Effedieffe]

I have successfully edited some times but my Ubermal/Venom/TT still returns to its previous state.
Thanks anyway chboing.

[Connavar]

bug fixed

[shapealot]

thanx connavar don't know what we'd do without ye

[Connavar]

... Couldn't you also put in the record (Elite-record). Than I can print my own records and the overall records and can easily see where to better my records ...
Done. Any other idea?

[tug_14]

may be add row with total time in speed lap , time trial in each class and a column in same way for each track .
It's only an idea not a request ...

[shapealot]

that could be very interesting, nice idea tug :nod

[yeldar2097]

Can't log in: Page refreshes when I click "Log in"

Firefox 3.5.5

[Connavar]

Thanks for the standardized bug report!
Bug has been officially squashed now.

[yeldar2097]

Cheers Conna, all working nicely again ^_^

[Rezatron]

Hmm, someone is doing is mass record add to the site this morning. While this is always appreciated, the boards are way out of sync and some of the records added for my ID (and others i'm sure) are actually worse than my unsynced times thus regressing my rank. So to whoever, perhaps is not the best time to do this?

[leungbok]

Add your own best times then, we'll trust you since the official leaderbords are fixed ;)

[tug_14]

Rezatron, someone is called Chboing " zeus fingers ".

[Rezatron]

Yes thought it was him. :twisted

[Connavar]

"zeus fingers" :lol

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Hei Connavar! I want to contribute a little :nod

In italian the translator changes the word "records" with "registri". It is grammatically true, but not in this context. We say "registri" for records of files, etc.
In this case, just translate "records" with.... "records" :beer

And the button "OK / refresh", you can translate it with "OK / aggiorna".

Thanks again for your awesome work! :pizza

[Connavar]

Thanks a lot for your help, I've been looking for translators to correct the
mistakes and add new languages, I want to add Japanese, Russian, ...

In Italian, I need a translation for the following terms:
title screen
best lap
rank type
log in
home
edit a record
a better score exists!
register
log out
click on the date to edit
login to comment
event type
event name
edit
view profile
view matrix

Thanks

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Thanks a lot for your help, I've been looking for translators to correct the
mistakes and add new languages, I want to add Japanese, Russian, ...

In Italian, I need a translation for the following terms:
title screen = schermata di titolo
best lap = giro migliore
rank type = tipo di classifica (not 100% sure about this, where do you use it?)
log in = accedi
home = home
edit a record = modifica un record
a better score exists! = esiste un risultato migliore!
register = registrati
log out = esci (means exit) or disconnettiti (means disconnect) or log out, choose what you prefer :)
click on the date to edit = clicca sulla data per modificare
login to comment = accedi per commentare
event type = tipo di evento
event name = nome dell'evento
edit = modifica
view profile = guarda il profilo
view matrix = guarda la matrice

Thanks

Answers in the quote :g

[Connavar]

Thanks a lot! Now the website is 100% Italian friendly :)

[chboing]

Rezatron, someone is called Chboing " zeus fingers ".

:D nice, when are you coming by for a geek afternoon with wotan tug ? we should make this next week ! :)

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Thanks a lot! Now the website is 100% Italian friendly :)
Thanks to you :beer

[Dark_Phantom_89]

Just want to say great work on the site Connavar :+ - I'm in the process of updating my records now

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Hi Conna! There are still some mistakes with the Italian translation :)

aggiungi registri -> aggiungi record

ok/refresh -> ok/aggiorna

cassa -> elimina

annula -> annulla

description -> descrizione

cheers! :beer

EDIT::+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+

[JFthebestJan]

@connavar:
on ur site SL+TT=elite. that's a great idea.
but why is it, that every player is twice on the leaderboard?
why not combine both times, f.e.: TT(1.29.39)+SL(27.26)=elite(1.56.65)

just my 2 cents

[Reezy]

I agree with Jan, but have average of (TT rating + SL rating) = elite rating.
ie. As it is when you choose to include all speed classes in your query.

[SaturnReturn]

I just got a bit confused. Some of my single races times didn't seem to have updated. So I was entering manually. Then I seemed to find loads more. Took me a while to remember the game puts MP times in with Single Race in the Personal list. So I'll go back and fix my mistake. Just thought I'd let folks know in case I miss any and they see two of my times matching - just let me know and I'll fix it.

EDIT: Just deleted some and will try again. Should all be correct now.

[Rezatron]

Connavar/chboing, please delete the top three (glitched) entries on SINGLE RACE - FLASH - CHENGHOU FORWARD. Its really messing up the points. :-

thx in advance :+

edit: found another, delete the top record on SINGLE RACE - VENOM - SOL 2 please!
edit 2: top record on SINGLE RACE - RAPIER - SOL 2...

[phaeton_pl]

There's much more :nod

Connavar could you give "bot-mods" a permission to delete glitched times?

EDIT:

I just edited time on Sol 2 Rapier Single Race, I added 20 seconds and it worked :)

[yeldar2097]

yarrrrrrrrrr :pirate ^_^

[Connavar]

Yeah will do that soon, good idea.

Edit: kaori bug fixed, now when you click on a country, the country is visible
and you can deselect it. Before, the only way to deselect a country was to click
on a ship ... Thanks kaori!

Edit2: botmods can now delete any time :)

[amplificated]

Figured it was strange I couldn't update my time for Tech De Ra Reverse Rapier last night... got 24.19 when the bot is 24.20.

And I missed a BR and went wide, could easily be in the 23's...

could someone fix that? :hyper

[SaturnReturn]

I entered a time of 24.00 for Bot, so it should work now amplificated. If it needs reducing further then I'll let someone else, who knows Rapier better than me, do that.

[amplificated]

thanks Saturn :+

I'll also leave it to someone else to beat me before I try to get a sub-24 time (at least for a while) :P

[Koleax]

So bots are adjusted when Amplificated beats them but not me? :P

I know, I know. It's okay.

[leungbok]

People beating the bot should upload some video to show that their time is legit and also to give great show of the best pilots in action :)

[amplificated]

I didn't do anything all that dissimilar from my venom run (was a WR, but I've since beaten that with better lines and boost) which is on YT, other than miss a possible BR or 2 from the last lip bit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j8lB8c-p3s

No glitches :P

If that's not enough, wait until barnster wants to reclaim the #1 spot, I'm sure he'll beat it in short order :(
If that happens I'll whip the camera out and see what I can do

[yeldar2097]

My bad...

[SaturnReturn]

I just went to check a time and got the same thing. Was also going to post a picture but yeldar did it for me. Saturn's little helper FTW. ;)

[yeldar2097]

Hooray it works again :D

[Connavar]

Too many connections? Maybe someone tried to hack the website or something.

[ProblemSolver]

Hey Connavar, can you add a space between the amount of zones reach
and perfect zones, i.e. '... / ...', within the extra field? :) Similar with Detonator.
Looks more pleasing that way. Thx m8. :+

[kanar]

Hey Conna, I think I found a glitched comment here (pic in attachment).

[Rezatron]

That comment was posted 4 months ago and clearly made in jest, as signified by the ":D" It is true, you need to be very patient in SR mode and wait for many turbos, that's all. What's really the issue :?:

[kanar]

The issue is I'm your first fan dude. So please keep going with your great comments on the game and on all the pilots around here, keep insulting my mates, as you did with Leungbok before, and now on the new Pirhapac vid on youtube, showing your real face to everyone (best vid ever). As I said I'm your n°1 fan, remember, the one with a HUGE internet ego (as you described me). So be assured I'll, we'll, never give you a break, watching your every move. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0n8uP4qZIs&feature=PlayList&p=C190C60BA715CE0A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=28)

[KGB]

Am I wrong for thinking that Pirhapac was just goading Rezatron on that video of his, calling him a quitter. The way he PMs he reminds me of that chyroo 007 or whatever he was called, I really hope it wasn't him using a different account. Don't know the full story here, but both parties growing up might help the situation a lot. :+

[Lance]

Let's keep it friendly here, gentlemen.

[leungbok]

Am I wrong for thinking that Pirhapac was just goading Rezatron on that video of his, calling him a quitter

If the guy quitted (if it was a connexion issue, it was easy to explain that), it's not an insult, it's a legitimate answer !

[SaturnReturn]

Goading is exactly what it is, whether he quit or not. As far as I can tell from the caption on the video, he raced one race and then left the game. Since when is that a crime? It's a game. Also, if people think others are being arrogant, then I fail to see how this kind of thing is going to change their ways. It's actually just indulging in it further. Surely it's just better to ignore it.

I maintain that it takes two sides to sustain this kind of thing, and as long as both sides are willing to carry on with it, they're both as bad as each other, and therefore as hypocritical as each other. The sooner people realise this, the sooner it can be put aside and we can all get on with the enjoying the game.

Connavar puts a lot of effort into his site. It's there for everyone to use to augment the game and increase enjoyment. I for one wouldn't want to see it reduced to yet another outlet for petty juvenile bickering.

[kaori]

You're right Sat, but I think we all have a juvenile part in us, we play videogames !
The website of Connavar is awesome, everyone can find interesting competition, at his level, and compare the times or points on each track with best players or just friends.

I enjoy register my records, even if I am not in the top ten, and I find some determined opponents. Like you Sat, why do you increase all these speed lap ? I'll catch you one day, I will ! ;)

[SaturnReturn]

I do it because I enjoy improving my skills and the site gives me a very clear way of measuring that improvement. It looks like we have plenty of time left to improve at HD now anyway. That seems to be the only silver lining to the recent bad news. Once again, thank god for Connavar's site, which will always maintain the history of our achievements on WipEout HD, even if the official servers don't.

[ProblemSolver]

We should skim over the official records again. Who knows what the next
news has to offer for us....

@Connavar: Wellington89's Vineta K ZONE record got delete from the official
leaderboard. How should we handle such a situation? It seems like that if one
doesn't race again on a given track for about 10 - 12 months, it's record gets
deleted.

[Connavar]

I plan to keep all Wellington's records of course.
Too bad we don't have AHH-QUADZILLA's records anymore.

[ProblemSolver]

For sure.

But a new player maybe wondering about seeing another one ranked within
the leaderboard of your page but not on the official one. I thought about
some kind of indicator to inform others that this is possible, since the
problem will worsen as time goes by.

[KGB]

I thought all Wellington or AHH-QUADZILLA had to do to get their times back on the leaderboards was to Sync their records again. Ironic as Wellington first brought it to our attention.

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5634

Maybe any discussion about it should be posted there.

[ProblemSolver]

Yep, this was the thread.
Well, I don't think it works that way as you said, since Wellington has
synchronized his records back in October 2009, at least. He even did a
rank 1 score on TDR Reverse in ZONE mode this time. It might be possible
that one as to touch a given track, doing at least one run, within one
year to keep the record on the board. I'm curios whether my VK record gets
deleted as well within the next two month.

[Koleax]

2. Each mode/track/class combination gives scores to all players in that
combination:

Everyone gets this score:
1000*exp((best-time)*9/time)

So the leader gets 1000 points, and the other players get less, depending on
your time compared to the leader time, I tweaked the parameters (namely the 9
one) to have a bad score (about 500) when you're doing 20 sec instead of 19 for
the leader.
So the formula is the same for Zone mode, except "time" is the score? Do the number of perfect and total zones cleared factor in at all? I'm curious because when I go to "Matrix" and click "Time" for Zone mode I get what look like times that may or may not be in proportion to the zone scores.

[Connavar]

Yeah I think so, I forgot.

About global rankings, the formula will be modified soon, again the goal is to
have a clear picture of who the best players are (and I'm gonna lose some
ranks in the process!)

[SaturnReturn]

Will it change ranks within speed classes or just the overall rank across all modes? Basically, am I gonna have to claw my way to third on Phantom all over again? I only just got there. :P

[Connavar]

Third? wow. No, phantom will be unaffected.
I just looked at your matrix, and you should gain many ranks in the overall
rankings, as deserved.

[phaeton_pl]

Could you also resize " < > " buttons? They are so small :)

[shapealot]

i moved up a few places last time, i wonder where im goin this time :? lol

[Rezatron]

Connavar, according to the current overall index formula, are each of the game modes weighted evenly? If so, perhaps you could alter the formula to favor certain modes over others. I'm sure we all agree that a top Speed Lap or Time Trial record is much prestigious and difficult to obtain than a Single Race record.

I'm thinking:
1a) Time Trial
1b) Speed Lap
2) Multiplayer
3a) Zone
3b) Detonator
4) Single Race

or switch 2 and 3 (or make 2 and 3 weigh equal, not sure right now). What do you guys think?

[SaturnReturn]

I think single race is easier too, but only because it's less competitive. I've done some single races recently and easily obtained good scores, which have improved my rank a lot. So I can look at it and see that really, I'm not better than a lot of the people below me in the rankings who actually have barely done any single races at all. But if more people took part in singles and treated it as a legitimate game mode instead of shunning it, then it would be more competitive and wouldn't be so easy to get good points from it. I think it would be better to encourage each other to compete than make competing in it less worthwhile.

Multiplayer is a bit different, because it's heavily affected by the internet connection of the individual, and those he or she is racing against. I often feel like I'm at a disadvantage in terms of getting good records online because my ping is at least twice that of others. But at the end of the day, the more time I spend on multiplayer, the more chances I have of getting good times, so I don't mind if it's weighted equally either.

[Koleax]

I do not have a strong opinion, but, if it matters, I would put Zone and Detonator above multiplayer and single race. The former are modes that are exclusively designed to finish with quantitative scores while the latter are primarily designed to give an ordinal result (first place, second place, etc.).

Although I do wonder a bit about the formula for Zone. The pure four tracks have rather skewed index distributions for the very top ranks, especially Corridon 12 and Pro Tozo. You can be ranked in the top 20 and still not break 500. It may be that these tracks are not as competitive, as SR said, but it does make me curious if Zone mode naturally moves to a less proportional score distribution than times for TT and SL.

[Connavar]

Good ideas there ... but of course speed lap players will want more weight for
SL and zone players more weight for zone, so right now I'm gonna leave them
all equal, in a first step I'm going to improve the interpolation formula to better
reflect players' skills.

Yeah maybe I should modify the formula for Zone, originally I found the
parameters by giving 1000 points to the best player and a good score like 800
or 900 to a good or very good player etc. Now if a good Zone result scores 500
points only, then there is something wrong indeed!

[OBH]

So close to my first ever SL Phantom Rank 1... Joint on Talons Junction with AkFurtif on 21.74.
Swear ill be dead long before i ever get a 1st :)

[SaturnReturn]

Joint first is still first. ;) I don't understand the number vs. rank though. You are number one, but rank 2. Sort by points and it puts you first. Maybe because you have less pads, but then shouldn't you be rank 1? It's weird.

[leungbok]

i'll try to beat that for avoiding those rank/number issues :twisted




...but there are many weeks i'm trying that :brickwall

[Connavar]

This problem should be solved like this: whoever scores first gets
the rank (here #1), people equalizing it will be #2, #3 etc

[shapealot]

when are you updating the formula conna?

[Connavar]

8 days

[AeternusVJ]

Hey, how long Connavar, you help me long time ago with the blink brigade trophy!

I´m ranked 164 in Vineta K/Forward/Phantom ^^. Good memories!

[Connavar]

Really? Nice! :D
(Patch coming within the next hours)

Edit: done, the overall rankings have been improved (better interpolation algorithm),
seems to be working as someone like ericd7m jumped into #12 position!

[shapealot]

im sweating with anticipation, wonder where im goin lol

[novide]

Hi Connavar

i added a new rekord: vineta k (r), SL rapier, rang 22, 611 points
and now i have lost one rank in the overall ranking?

how works the ranking?

cheers, novide


ps. thx for your great ranking site

[KGB]

I see my times have been updated yesterday. Great :clap. I was thinking about doing them myself since I started the TT and SL comp but couldn't find the time. Cheers chboing (I take it) :+

[ProblemSolver]

Who has added all the records, yesterday? :eek Connavar, you got access to
SL's database server?

A big thumbs up! :):+

[tug_14]

seriously ?
U don't know who added records on connavar's website ?

:clap
:brickwall

hard to believe that ....
may be a problem with u belly button ?

[leungbok]

seriously ?
U don't know who added records on connavar's website ?
The answer is even on the post above :lol

[ProblemSolver]

seriously ?
U don't know who added records on connavar's website ? ...
xD Man! I wrote; "Who has added all the records, yesterday?" English, anyone?
But to answer you question, I do know who can add records on Connavar's webside, but I
just wanted to know who has added all the records, yersterday? There is a difference, can
you see? And in case you haven't noticed, hundreds of records were added yesterday in
one go. So in essence, I just wanted to know if Connavar got the data from somewhere else
or if he and / or chboing has collected them over time and updated the website in one go,
which I believe was the case.

[KGB]

It's been asked before but I'd actually like to know how chboing adds so many, anyone....?

[tug_14]

well PBS , you wrote : " who .....
but u was meaning ; " how ....

even my english is bad , i think im not wrong .

may be some english people can help us :)

[Connavar]

Well if you guys think I add records using the web interface, you're wrong!!
I write data in a file over time, and then I just upload that file, skipping the
interface, so that's why there were suddenly many new records.

(Also, adding a time takes a lot of time on the server because it does
many consistency checks and updates ratio's and so on ... If I had time
I would accelerate this process)

Only myself and chboing have a direct connection to the server database
and are able to do this.

Btw we're spending a lot of time on those updates, I think we should just
be thanked for our efforts. Our original goal was to populate enough data
and then let everyone else add records, but it didn't really happen, still
we're ready to stop doing it any time.

[novide]

wow, i lose rank per rank, if i enter a better record... why?
there must be something wrong...

it is a big motivation for me, to do better records... hmm

[ProblemSolver]

@tug_14: Seems like you don't know that I've posted in this thread before and
that I do know who has entered the most records and things like that. Since I
assume that we do know each other here, and as such share a given context, I
left out the quotation marks around my question.

@Connavar: Being thanked isn't enough, I would say. The webside is great and
really shows your dedication. :+ What bugs me as well is that even some of the
top player don't enter their records. :?

[Connavar]

Ok, shapealot you're #5!

Added 2 clones: No-Ghost and Conor-Buckley, so they won't show up in the
rankings anymore, if you guys know more clones, just post a comment here or
a private message on the website, or anywhere!

Also JPA2097 has become a BotMod!

[Rezatron]

Here's some confirmed alts that can be merged:

1.themaderfacker aka
bloody_harry666

2. vinnymonster aka
zero-attention

3. reach-big7 aka
FEET_Fly-back7
Love-me-I-Love
fly---------back
I think one more i'm leaving out... I forget

4. Sinus1 aka
XdanjouX
qloverp
rainrunner
sheer_hell
Biolumineszenz
sonnenhell
sonnenball
sonnenklar
:-
+ more for sure that i'm not aware of... :lol

Next are IDs that only have WOHD installed and hardly any trophies (or trophies that can quickly be won playing online races only), low rank (5-15), sometimes even no avatar selected, and of course surprisingly strong performances on the track not matching the trophies or rank. I hate being ambushed by an alt! :bomb Not sure whose are these:


Wow__your_good
Reptile-ninja
do_you_feel_that
feel_that
he_he_haha
l_-_o_-_v_-_e
come_icaras
U-wait-n-See


Just looking at the formatting of the IDs you can tell half of them probably belong to one person. Is it you? :lol I'm watching and compiling :sonar

It's messing up the boards with so many unknown alts in the top 100 of multiplayer...

[leungbok]

conor buckley is another alt account ! :rolleyes:

[amplificated]

With so many records to upload and keep track of (like 300 or more?), it gets hard to maintain a persistent effort to correct them all the time. Thanks heaps for the blanket update, my profile has so many more and updated times now! :P

[shapealot]

@connavar & chboing thanks go to you guys for all youre effort on the site, im sure everybody will agree. im on it everyday checkin whats been added and without it i dont think i woulda put as much effort into my laps :p

BTW what exactly has changed about the formula? thanx in advance :beer

[Connavar]

Hi shapealot, the formula is now a lot more complex, I modified it to try to
represent better pilots' skills, it's still far from being perfect (I shouldn't be in
the top 10 for example) so I will improve it further. Because before, ace pilots
such as ericd7m, Elois-13 and SaturnReturn were outside the top 24, now they
are in, so it works better.

Rezatron, thanks a lot for those clones, I will add them to the site shortly.
Leungbok: Sarah Conor Buckley has already been terminated!

[Woopzilla]

Thanks to Mietepiet for making me have a closer look at the site. And of course, a BIG thanks to Connavar for making the site. :D

I knew of it... but thought it was only for super pro players. I then had a closer look when Mietepiet directed me to it and saw it has records up to rank 300~ which I fall into. :) So, I've gone ahead and updated all my TT, SL, SR and MR times.

I don't know if you're taking suggestions but would it be possible to display 24 results per page? (24 tracks total... or maybe more if you include Zone tracks)

EDIT: Ohhh.. nvm with the above question... was answered below. Thanks. :D I thought it was a 'jump to page' box.

[mic-dk]

ooh, I know that one!

In the box next to MYSELF | NEXT PAGE | BOTTOM, you simply enter whatever number you want displayed pr page and hey presto! :D

Edit Looking over the records, I'm missing quite a few MP/SL/TT records. I only have 13 MP records entered?!? When I try to add the missing ones, it seems to accept the edit but the entered time is just gone. Are the times really that lousy...? ;)

[Connavar]

Hi, are you telling me you're unable to add some of your times?
That's a bug. Can you just list some of them so I have a look?

[mic-dk]

My bad... I had a certain ship selected, so of course only the records set with that ship is showed.

So, your site works exactly like it's supposed to :)

Sorry for yelling 'fire!'...:redface:

[Rezatron]

One more clone to merge: Xtriko aka Xtriko2097

[ProblemSolver]

Clones;

{PhantomV6, Max-RX6, Phaze2097} and {silverfox073, silverfoxy}.

[yeldar2097]

More clones:

Jango Fett = Boba Fett, Clone army, Stormtroopers

[Connavar]

For {PhantomV6, Max-RX6, Phaze2097}, who is the "master" account?
Max-RX6 has more records so that's the one?

[Rezatron]

merge: WormwoodMoridln aka LiquidMoridin

"WormwoodMoridln" is a typo in the database... should be WormwoodMoridin

[ProblemSolver]

@Connavar: It's Phaze2097 now. xD

[Connavar]

Ok just ran the automatic function, seems to be working fine!
Every clone got deleted and offered his times to the original.

(Btw all new updates concerning a clone will be redirected to the original,
just like before, in case someone tries to add a clone time)

About MAX, I'm using Max now, but I could rename him.

[ProblemSolver]

Name him Phaze2097, that's his new PSN ID and WipEout HD account. His old
names are history, he told me.

[Connavar]

Are you sure, because I recently played against someone called Max-RX6,
he had the french flag too ... I hope I didn't merge/delete wrong clones?

Also I'm identifying new user flags now ... 1053 new so far and counting,
it shouldn't really matter as the major players are already known, but still
good for statistical purposes, knowing which country plays wipeout the
most etc :)

1) Rezatron: sinus1 updated now!
2) Haven't added the new flags yet, will do soon, check contributors to
see who adds what; I try to find on internet, soon 1000+ new ones

[Rezatron]

Ok just ran the automatic function, seems to be working fine!
Every clone got deleted and offered his times to the original.
Sinus' alts are still visible.

edit: I've also played against both Phaze2097 and Max-RX6 within the past 2 weeks.
edit2: How did you know the flags of so many users Connavar??? I've added 80 just from memory, how did you know?

[novide]

hello connavar...

I have lost index points again in the overallranking, after I typed better records...
i am the only one, with this problem?

sorry for bad english...

[Woopzilla]

Maybe that's how the formula works... but my overall ranking is also dropping with every rank 30~ rapier/flash/venom record I enter. :O

Trying to fill my matrix form. :g

I'm currently outranked (I'm rank 541, he's 540) by a guy who has 15 records all with rank 300-600 entries. I have 180~ 100+ ranks. :<

Don't take this as a complaint though... it's a great site that's made me start doing more SL/TT for all tracks and speed classes. :D :+

[novide]

this would make no sense... i have improved only 4 old records today and lost 5 places in the overall ranking

[Connavar]

woopzilla, can you give me the name of the culprit (the guy with 15 records)?
That would help me locate the problem. Don't worry guys if the formula is
bugged, I will change it until it becomes 100% fair, just keep updating your
records!

[novide]

THX Connavar :+

[Woopzilla]

I think it's the formula. I just dropped to rank 829. ^^ I was rank 200 yesterday... but after entering my new records today (only ranks 10 to 50 records), I've dropped by 600 ranks.

The random account I checked to compare was: matejosa

He is now 400 ranks above me despite only having one sub 100 rank and everything else in the hundreds. Not sure how that really makes sense. :P

I think my bad Detonator scores are pulling me down a bit but even with those I wasn't as low as today. There were a few accounts who only had 10-15 entries but are now way above me in ranking.

EDIT: You can now find me at rank 2134. :P Maybe my index is low because I don't have any venom/flash/rapier multiplayer race records?

[Connavar]

Yeah the formula is bugged :(
By the way, very bad scores are not taken into account, so it's something else.
I will investigate and correct this.

[chrix12]

Says my time 0.30.35 on Anulpha Pass speed; Venom; Pirahna+; rank 76, my new record is 0.30.27 Pirahna (not +) :beer 14 pads and 4 br

[Woopzilla]

Heh, thanks for looking into it. Take your time though... really appreciate all the effort you've already put into this website! It seems only the 'index' score is odd. The average and overall scores seem correct (I think?).

It's just something I noticed while adding lots of records to fill my matrix form. The matrix form is an awesome tool to check on where to improve instead of using the clunky ingame menu. :+

Thanks again. :g

EDIT: @chrix12 You can sign up and make an account on the website to update your own scores. :P You don't need to wait for someone else to do it, that's the best thing about the site.

[Connavar]

Ok i found the bug, it wasn't the formula but something else, now you're rank 72

[Woopzilla]

Wow, I didn't think it would make me jump up that high... thanks for the hard work! :+

EDIT: Lol, saw your message. :) I'm #41 now... are my records still causing bugs? xD

[shapealot]

hi connavar i think the top 2 times on sol 2 flash speed lap are glitches. thanx

[leungbok]

Even if these times are legit, no doubt that the 2 owners of the sol2 sl flash are glitchers :roll:

[phaeton_pl]

Fixed. "Bot mods" can delete records. Glitchers have their own ranking, the official one.

[Connavar]

^ Haha.

Finally finished a 3d simulator, so now I have some time to spend on the site.
I'll do the event section then.

[shapealot]

i didnt realize we could remove times thanx pheaton :beer

[Connavar]

I got bored so I added Russian language support but I don't know all the terms
- if anyone speaks Russian, maybe he can help me filling them?
Спасибо (Thanks).

Same for japanese would be nice too!

[phaeton_pl]

Я знаю русский язык, но Google Translate лучше знает. :)


Seriously, i find that tool really useful. I'm using it to translate some french comments on YT :P

Connavar I do know russian language a bit, how can i help?

[Connavar]

Haha ok, I also know a bit, well if you can just check all the terms and tell me
where the problems are. I just added Japanese too, but there I barely know
anything at all, so it's full of mistakes.

[OBH]

I was wondering; would it be possible to let players upload more then one time for a single track, but 1 per team?? And to be able to search by team used as well as track/speed etc?

My thinking came about because Ive recently really got into using pirahna, and would like to upload a few times. However many are not as fast as my icaras times. It would be awesome to be able to upload these times as well, and then filter the leaderboard by pirahna times only to see whos a faster fish than me :)

[Connavar]

There is already a solution but it could pollute the leaderboards quite a bit...
adding those times as another account name which doesn't exist yet.

So a convention is required to easily filter those times out when not wanted,
like using:


*Piranha* osama_bin_haydn

with the * (must not be a valid PSN name)

or something like:


osama_bin_haydn/Piranha

(I think the / is not accepted for PSN usernames right?)

The problem is ... how many people are going to add such times?
If you're the only one, it's not really worth making the changes.

[Woopzilla]

I have one request:

When sorting times by track the HD ones are in order of how they appear in the leaderboards. The Fury tracks are ordered differently though, would it be possible to re-arrange them to: TJ, TJ R, Amph, Amph R, MH, MH R, TDR, TDR R?

It's just a minor thing that would make cross-checking times a little faster. I compare them as I go down the list on the site while flicking through the ingame leaderboards.

Thank you for possibly considering it. ^^

[Connavar]

I will add an option to have:
1) current order
2) wipeout hd order
3) alternating order: vineta fwd/vineta rev/anulpha fwd/anulpha rev/...

[Woopzilla]

Cool, thanks a lot! :D:+

[OBH]

You make a good point Connavar. Cheers for the reply :beer

[SaturnReturn]

Thinking about OBH's suggestion - I don't know if many people would use it or not, but one of the best aspects of your site, Connavar, is that it adds so much longevity to the game by giving us features the standard tables don't, as well as reliability and accuracy. Imagine how much more time we could all play the game if there was a separate table for every ship. With WipEout's future uncertain, I think a lot of us will be squeezing as much enjoyment as possible out of the game, and this could really help us to do that. Also, some people like Hellfire are really loyal to one team and for them to be at the top of a record table and compete on a level playing field in that sense could be really cool. I would definitely compete with Hellfire's Goteki times if it were possible, as I love it too. I wouldn't include the separate times in the overall rankings though as I think that would be too confusing.

If it's a lot of effort then maybe it's not worthwhile, but perhaps something to consider for the future.

[OBH]

i like your thinking :beer

[Connavar]

Yeah, also those speed lap challenges could be added to the website...
Let me just think of the best way to implement this.

[amplificated]

The bot time for TDR(R) Venom needs to be adjusted, as it's only on 30.5 at the moment. I uploaded a vid to youtube of 30.07:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0zMMj7jlGk

There are some lines that could be cleaned up and maybe some other things I'm not taking account of at all that could be used, but with the method I used, I think a time of 29.8 or so is possible...

[leungbok]

done ! Bot is now at 29.70 ! ;)

[shapealot]

bot sorted amp so you can add youre time now. i set it 29.70 coz you will no doubt beat it soon enough, good work mate nice vid

edit: @leungbok that was wierd we must have edited it at the same time lol

[amplificated]

thanks :)

[XBARNSTERX]

Excellent mate, lovely start. Really liked the ending too ;)

[Rezatron]

Site seems to be down right now, but maybe it just this crappy wireless that i'm stealing. I want to add some pedestrian MP Phantom times hehe :rolleyes:

[amplificated]

3rd time I've asked for a TDR reverse bot time adjustment, for Flash this time :P

I got 27.22 with pretty much the same method as my Venom time, bot is 27.50

only damn track I seem to be able to get #1's on though :(

[yeldar2097]

Changed it

[amplificated]

ty :)

[shapealot]

ive bin tryna edit the venom VK SL bot but it wont let me :/ could another mod give it a try for me, set it at 23.70

thanx

[Rezatron]

hmm, I can't edit it either.

:?:

edit: it lets me change the speed pads but not the time...?
edit2: I deleted the bot and tried creating a new one... the bot is now gone but it won't let me make a new one. Whoops! :redface:

[shapealot]

the bot has been terminated! thanx reza at least i can add my time now ;)

[Reezy]

How long is the site guaranteed to be up for?

[shapealot]

it still wont let me add my time :/ conna need youre help mate

[Connavar]

wow the site is still up and running :+

shapealot: what time do you need added?

[shapealot]

hey conna :) venom VK SL 24.25 8 SPs icarus+ could u set the bot at 23.70 as texasalex has a 23.93 cheers mate thanx for the help

[Connavar]

Haha I know why it happened!!
In my code I have something (useful before the bot existed) that says that in
venom, under 24.30 is impossible, flash under 22.20, rapier under 19.50, and
phantom under 17.

Damn I'm missing a password, when I get home (in 1 week), I'll do the change.

[yeldar2097]

So Shape and Texas beat the bot AND the bot's code!

Awesome :dizzy

[shapealot]

lmao no way i beat the code, i am neo lol :rock thanx for the help conna as allways mate

@yeldar dude youre close to the phantom limit on VK rev should give it a shot youve got a week b4 conna gets back

[yeldar2097]

Pahaha there is no chance I'll be able to get that. I think I might need a few more BRs for it and I haven't the foggiest idea where they'd come from :lol

"You take the blue pill..." :P

[R3BU5ER]

Hey guys, I thought I'd upload some times to the site, but I'm little new to that...so I wondered what to fill in with extra? What does that mean?
And do I have to be logged in for adding times or can I just do it?

Thnx in advance

[Danterich]

You have to be logged in to enter times i guess!
I want to update my records, which has been entered by someonelse(thx again), but i have registered and cannot login :frown:
Do i have to wait for a confirmation mail or what?

[yeldar2097]

The extra is usually for things like Speed Pads/Perfect Zones etc... :)

[Woopzilla]

I find it's also always best to select the race mode in the drop-down menu, so you will know what to enter as the 'extra' column will be renamed to a more specific name.

You might accidentally enter the amount of speed pads for a multiplayer race when it actually wants fastest lap. :P

[KGB]

You have to be logged in to enter times i guess!
I want to update my records, which has been entered by someonelse(thx again), but i have registered and cannot login :frown:
Do i have to wait for a confirmation mail or what?

No, no mail confirmation needed. I have had problems before loging in due to which web browser I was using. Try a different one mate.

EDIT: which reminds me. I finally beat my Sebenco and CP reverse multiplayer times a couple of days ago for the first time in about 15 months! You do not know how happy I was. I will have to update them later.

[Connavar]

yeldar: your vineta-k rev lap was PERFECT, but apparently it's possible to execute a double
BR in the 2nd tunnel, that could save you a bit more than 0.10 seconds, then if you do a
perfect boost at the end, landing on the pad, a bit under 0.10 seconds, then your lap will
be around 17.03 ... +/- 0.05 seconds :)

[Danterich]

No, no mail confirmation needed. I have had problems before loging in due to which web browser I was using. Try a different one mate.


Yeah, but i´m confused now. I tried Firefox, InternetExplorer, GoogleChrome, Safari with the same results: seems that i cannot login/enter/edit times!!

Connavar, which browser do you use/ recommend?

[Connavar]

Maybe it's because your account existed already, I can delete it if you want?
Done: re-register now

[Danterich]

Thank you mate, now it works with Firefox :hyper
I´ll update my times tomorrow.

[amplificated]

Amphiseum fwd Venom speed lap's bot time needs to be fixed; texasalex has a time of 37.57, and I have 37.67; but it's currently only on 38.10.

wanted to beat texasalex's time, but got stuck in a rut :( will try later.

[yeldar2097]

Edited the bot for you :)

[amplificated]

thanks!

[amplificated]

I hate to be the one to point it out, but there are a couple of times for T'sJ Rev Venom that are known to be glitched, though both are unintentional (yeldar's 32.24 and brainbeat's 32.67)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6836&page=9
check out posts #329, #336 and #339 in particular

[leungbok]

Yeah they apologized of using that method, but it's necessary to have their feedback about their second best (the unglitched one) before deleting the glitched times.
maybe they both can give their "legal" time in this thread ! ;)

[amplificated]

hopefully - but in those posts I pointed out they mentioned their second best at the time; so if we don't hear from them soon they can fall back on that, I reckon. I haven't seen much of brainbeat in a long time.

I'm sure yeldar has beaten his 33.04 since then though :P

[yeldar2097]

Haven't tried so no I haven't :)

Hang on, where has the 'Delete' button gone? I swear there used to be one there....

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

I (really)can't seem to access the site.I always get a "page cannot be displayed" error

[yeldar2097]

Connavar I think the code for Vineta K Rapier SL is getting in the way of the bot again.

Bot needs to be set at 19.20 but I can't change it.

:)

[amplificated]

I altered your time for you, yeldar - I wasn't 100% sure anyone with an account could edit any time, but it appears you can :P But it was the safe option to let people know here why a time would be edited. I'll leave brainbeat's for now, hopefully he can fix it himself if he has an updated time.

@ feisar:
Maybe try firefox if you aren't already, and make sure adblock+/noscript aren't blocking the page

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

adblock plus certainly ain't blocking(I do not have it) and I have no idea what noscript is

[DreamyElf]

the page worked fine for me yesterday morning :)

[Rezatron]

So do the Syncopia records count towards the index/point totals:?: I haven't tried the glitch yet so i'm unsure. If memory serves Connavar mentioned something about this months ago in this topic... I searched the topic for "syncopia" but it turned up nadda.

[SaturnReturn]

Yes they do, although I'm not really sure they should. If it gets to a point where everyone can do it easily then I doubt anyone would mind though. Things seem to be heading that way at least.

[amplificated]

I thought about that, after I put my time up on the site. I agree that any points should not be allowed for that track; it's a glitch to get in there in the first place... shouldn't count to any legit total. Still should be viewable/postable to though, it's a fun track to play!

also, I think the index may be a little messy at the moment since there's no bot. The index and average don't even out, or is that because the algorithm expects 24 records?

[yeldar2097]

Yeah something needs to be done, I'm pretty sure my TT index of 998 is massively dodgy.

Doesn't matter what it is really, Syncopia's just a bit of fun after all innit :D