New screens from HD press version

[supersocks]

Not sure if this is worth a new thread, but this finnish site posted few screenshots taken via photo-mode from pre-release version of HD:

http://pelaajalehti.com/2008/03/14/wipeout-hd-pelaaja-playstation-3-rapping-martinez/

EDIT: More pictures: http://www.konsolifin.net/uutinen.php?site=ps2&id=4432

[Sausehuhn]

Zone mode looks awesome!
I miss the all-glass underwater tunnel with those beautiful refractions, though.

[Lance]

I find that I like both of these tunnels:

http://pelaajalehti.com/wordpress/wp-content/2008/03/wohd_20080313_214355.thumbnail.jpg

http://pelaajalehti.com/wordpress/wp-content/2008/03/wohd_20080313_221430.thumbnail.jpg

The black track surface looks like rubber. :o

[eLhabib]

DON'T. LIKE. HUD.
godawful design, sorry. SO nineties... :(

[DawnFireDragoon]

i hope that isn't the final HUD, it's terrible!

the graphics look insane for this game, but the most exciting image for me was at the top, that stretched out landscape one, THAT looked like wipeout should!

[rdmx]

Game is looking awesome :nod

But i'm gonna have to go with the 'wtf have they done to the hud' crew :paperbag
Also, i think the blue bit at the top is the new shield meter?

But if it is, then what is with the percentage at the bottom right of the screen next to the speedo? (it reads 0 by the way). Is this a new game mechanic? :g

[Medusa]

Ugh, eww, the HUD, it looks like...something from...*shudder-gag* Fusion.
Don't like the style. And although I love the backgrounds and ships, I just can't seem to like the organic-look track surfaces.

[rdmx]

Hey, I liked fusion's hud. But this one has all manner of different colours and reminds me of 80s 90s style things.:cold

[Axel]

HUD is bad, hopefully they will have a chance to re design the thing. Yuck :(

[supersocks]

*Looks at the first and second pics*

HUD? Where?

EDIT: I added new link to the first post.

[mdhay]

I think Fusion is bringing back bad memories as a console flop.

[infoxicated]

Ugh, eww, the HUD, it looks like...something from...*shudder-gag* Fusion.
Yes - I was laughed off when I pointed this out, so I guess those of us that play HD will get to party like it's 2002 all over again.

[stin]

Pictures looks awesome but hopefully for the better. HUD? :cold

But I`m still buying HD.

stevie:)

[eLhabib]

holy crap. this last batch of screens looks pretty much like a finished product to me, which is good and bad at the same time. Good because it means we micht get HD sooner than we thought (and the game does look GREAT), and bad because it seems that this really seems to be the final HUD design.
I usually don't say things like this, because usually it does the person it's pointed at wrong but: whoever is responsible for the HUD design - you were the wrong person for the job, sorry. This is simply TERRIBLE. And this is also something that destroys the whole game for me. Its like putting one foul cherry on an otherwise perfect cake. YUCK!

[ColdRem'S]

Does anyone know Finnish to tell us if there's something interesting here?
:sonar

PS: english link on IGN:http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/859/859617p1.html (sorry if it isn't new)

Looks like it's time for previews:http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3166952&p=37
I guess we won't have to wait for too long. My bet is on April.

[Sausehuhn]

Yes, the HUD is terrible. Not stylish, not WipEout.
Why not take something simple?

But there's one good thing about it: The weapon indicator does not seem to slide in like in Pure and Pulse. That's really important for fast gaming.

[supersocks]

Does anyone know Finnish to tell us if there's something interesting here?

Nothing you can't find translated in that 1UP article already (It's by same guy after all). Except they used wip3out soundtrack, Prodigy's Music for the Jilted Generation and Bomfunk MC's Super Electric in their custom playlist. Which was nice. :P

EDIT: Oh gosh he mentions it on the picture text, lol.

[element42]

Is that a dual-hulled Feisar in the third picture down in the first set?
Did I miss something by not getting, or being interested in any way in, Pulse?? I thought Feisars were going to look the same... for ever!

[Sausehuhn]

That's the zone ship :D

[Dogg Thang]

I actually don't mind the look of the HUD. But the visibility needs to be improved definitely. There's no way most people could make any of that out mid-race.

[Sausehuhn]

OMFG these looks ace: http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3161157&sec=IMAGES

[Dogg Thang]

Leave no space unfilled - http://www.1up.com/do/slideshow?pager.offset=0&mt=0&cId=3161157&mId=3512023

[Frances_Penfold]

Most of y'all have more experience with the Wipeout franchise than me-- but I don't see what is so terrible about the HUD?

The only annoying thing I see is that it isn't pushed back to the corners of the screen-- seems that the HUD items are too close to the center.

I wonder if Wipeout HD will take a cue from games like Metroid Prime and allow the HUD to be adjustable-- it would be cool to have the option of make the HUD items semi translucent, and to control their position on the screen.

[Lion]

I'm still undecided on the main game HUD, I think it's generally OK, but the non-functional elements ( borders etc) are a little too busy.

The zone HUD is excellent, however

[rdmx]

What i've noticed is that Anulpha Pass no longer looks like the F Zero look alike track (or so other people say). Praise be! :banzai

[eLhabib]

I'm still undecided on the main game HUD, I think it's generally OK, but the non-functional elements ( borders etc) are a little too busy.

The zone HUD is excellent, however

'generally OK' just doesn't cut it for a wipEout title, though. The franchise is famous for its style and graphic design. It is beyond me how they could come up with such an uninspired HUD, especially after seeing the bliss that Pulse's HUD is... they should've just made the Pulse HUD in high res - but I guess the same thing happened here that happened in the development of Fusion: 'hey, we got lots more graphical power now, lots more pixels to use, lets make it super-fancy with lots of detail!' - WRONG! A good HUD has to be simple, easy to read, not obscuring the action, dynamic. Fail in all categories here. Hell, to be honest, now that I looked at both, I even liked Fusion's HUD better than this, and I'm certainly not teasing here! Someone f*cked up big time. I sincerely hope this is going to be revised, but I fear it won't be...

[mdhay]

Nobody complains about Half - Life's hud, so crowded is obviously unsuitable.

[omega329]

To be honest, I love the HUD:g but I would prefer it in the corners, allthough I can see the point in putting them towards the middle (big telly requires moving eyes around a lot to see the hud).

[Nadia Elenova]

The only thing I would left unchanged is the lap counter :P and push it back to the corners, of course.
BTW I absolutlely LOVE the feisar zone craft, can't wait to see the rest! thanks everyone for posting this pics.

[eLhabib]

Just found a batch of special screenshots over at gamesradar - very sexy looking!

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/Rotation%20of%20wohd_20080214_175045.jpg--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/Rotation%20of%20wohd_20080218_153855.jpg--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/wohd_20080220_121114.jpg--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/wohd_20080220_123632.jpg--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/wohd_20080220_122957.jpg--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/W/Wipeout%20PS3/Bulk%20Viewers/PS3/2008-02-26/wohd_20080220_121846.jpg--screenshot.jpg

:banzai

[Lance]

HFS! :totallybug-eyed: > pic 6

and 3

and 2 and 1. :)

[Sausehuhn]

Lance, you should edit your links ;)

Again about the HUD:
Why didn't they just keep the HUD they had in their Games-Convention-Promo? With a bit more contrast maybe.

[Lance]

hm. I wonder why they turned out that way. Been nearly asleep all day [only an hour and a half of sleep this morning, none between that and previous morning's awakening. Yes, we old folk always take the advice to keep regular hours, regular meals, proper diet, etc etc. Suuuuuuure we do.] so I'm guessing that's why I didn't notice, nor do I feel like being arsed to find out why at the moment. :D

[supersocks]

Fabulous pictures. Would make perfect poster images. But something is missing...

http://www.omamoka.com/stuff/ion_trails_in_wohd_small.jpg

That's more like it. :D

[Sausehuhn]

I just don't understand why the don't keep the flare effect. WipEout without flare just doesn't work!

[DawnFireDragoon]

i've just made the decision not to buy this, and in doing so not a ps3 until final fantasy xiii now. i love wipeout more than i can express, but the series has gone too far into f-zero territory now. pulse started it and every new screenshot of HD confirms my fears...and i HATE that HUD, it's something that is always there and it is just horrible to look at, it shouldn't be that way. I'm gonna keep my hopes up for the real wipeout ps3 game, and hell i'm sure loads of people will get this and have some good things to say, i'm sure people will say 'give it a go' but i had the same feeling with pulse, played it, dissapointed. poor tracks, shiny stuff everywhere and annoying weapon warnings...as i said i'm a big fan, but need to rant when one of my favourite game series' is letting me down. <end rant.

[Egg]

I just don't understand why the don't keep the flare effect. WipEout without flare just doesn't work!

Big sprites or full-screen effects on PS3 = crippling on the framerate.

If it was 720p / 30fps, you'd be laughing.

[Sausehuhn]

Just wondered because it was included in the G|C Promo... but then there were less details...
Shame that is.

[Skvall]

The overscan on many TVs will make the HUD look closer to the corners than in the pictures. Guess thats why many rather have the HUD closer to the middle than too far out in the corners.

Not that it will help the design though.

[Egg]

A few new shots.

http://www.gamereactor.dk/nyheder/69189/Flotte+Wipeout-billeder/

[rdmx]

Nice! You've updated the HUD so there is a futurisitc yet readable font on there. The HUD arguably looks much better now. In fact it doesn't look too 80/90s anymore :nod

[Darkdrium777]

There was engine flare before the new HUD. Proof (http://www.1up.com/media/03/3/7/9/lg/552.jpg?r)

Unless this build with the old PulsE/W'O"3 style HUD was running at a lower detail level (It doesn't really seem like that), why was it taken out?

[Egg]

It was a big, fat ugly low-res sprite, and therefore offensive to mine eyes.

Oh, and big sprites are not good for 1080p 60fps performance.

Anyway, fret not about the engine glow - wait till you see what the effects guys (Ste and Richard) have come up with since you last saw the game in action.

[omega329]

bit off-topic, but how is HD rendering reflections? are you using environment mapping or raytracing? or some other method I don't have a clue about?

[Darkdrium777]

Anyway, fret not about the engine glow - wait till you see what the effects guys (Ste and Richard) have come up with since you last saw the game in action.
So we can expect some kind of engine flare? It would be very cool if you could achieve this, since the exhaust trail looks really hot with all the blue flames, while the engine itself looks cool (temperature wise ;)) because there is practically no effect coming out of it. And therefore it doesn't look very realistic.
Nice to hear that you are still improving the game, a few weeks before release :)

[omega329]

Not realistic? If you'd ever stuck your head in the unfiltered exhaust straight from a engine that's "just ticking over", you'd be surprised by how hot it is...

[Linchpin]

The screens are looking sweet :D
I don't think they'll be using ray-tracing for reflections omega , real time ray-tracing is still very much in its infancy , they're more likely using environment mapping

[omega329]

I thought that, but this is a PS3 were talkin' about :rock
just kidding, I doubt that even a PS3 could do real-time ray tracing, hell my PC takes almost a min for a single frame!

[Lance]

Not realistic? If you'd ever stuck your head in the unfiltered exhaust straight from a engine that's "just ticking over", you'd be surprised by how hot it is...

So apparently you have experimented in order to know this. That explains a lot. :D

[Darkdrium777]

Not realistic? If you'd ever stuck your head in the unfiltered exhaust straight from a engine that's "just ticking over", you'd be surprised by how hot it is...

What I meant to say is that little effect comes out of the engine on the screenshots we have seen so far, and it looks like the exhaust trail is there for no apparent reason. It follows the ship, but it not attached to it, a link is missing between the exhaust port of the engine and the trail, and that would be, you guessed it, the flare.

[Mano]

A few new shots.

http://www.gamereactor.dk/nyheder/69189/Flotte+Wipeout-billeder/


those last 4 picture ships look beautiful, very close to XL - WO3 reference yet refreshed, specially the Quirex, and the honeycomb shield/powerup looks interesting

[Rapier Racer]

Nice to hear that you are still improving the game, a few weeks before release :)

Was there an official announcement on that? I hope for the 22nd May based on the leaked PSN document that was posted on the net but thats not reliable intel.

[Nadia Elenova]

I'm gonna love Sol 2... again. :)

[Darkdrium777]

Was there an official announcement on that? I hope for the 22nd May based on the leaked PSN document that was posted on the net but thats not reliable intel.
I certainly hope that the UK Official PlayStation (http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item75516/WipEout%E2%84%A2-HD/) site is correct.

[omega329]

So apparently you have experimented in order to know this. That explains a lot. :D
I held my breath ok? Besides, it's not like deisel fumes do that mu- oh wait... yeah, that probably does explain a lot!

[Rapier Racer]

Hmm more like a possible month+ then a meer few weeks, that sites dates are a lot of shite anyway they'll change that at the last minute.

Cryptic and unpublicized thats the way Wipeout seems to be released these days, must be good for the sales and what not.

[ColdRem'S]

New screens here:
http://www.play3-live.com/news-ps3-wipeout-hd-survole-la-piste-8070.html

[Crusader]

New screens here:
http://www.play3-live.com/news-ps3-wipeout-hd-survole-la-piste-8070.html

The picture with the AG Systems ship turning sharply and all of the crisp details and mechanical components is amazing. :dizzy

[Darkdrium777]

The explosion one however is not. :-

[eLhabib]

Haven't seen some of those (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/photos/wipeout-hd/) before, take a look!

[Rubix42]

Apparantly there is a new game video on the PSN in the US today. I'll be donwloading it tonight for sure.

[Sausehuhn]

Could you upload it to mageupload.com, rapidshare.com or something similar? I do not have the PS3, so...

[rushin]

It's the same as the euro one they released a few weeks ago.

didnt stop me watching it all and getting excited all over again though :)

[Rubix42]

Sorry, I didn't realize it was the same video when I posted yesterday. I was at work, so I just new it was put on the PSN for download and wanted to mention it.

I did sit down and watch it on my new HDTV though. If I thought I was excited before, this just took that up another 5 notches.

I highly recommend pausing on some of the ship shots, they amount of detail put into them is pretty incredible IMHO.

[Darkdrium777]

The version I had downloaded earlier is of better quality (20Mbps video vs 9Mbps, and 160kbps audio vs 128kbps). It also doesn't have the "RP" sign at the beginning, and throws you directly into the action. So I'll keep the "old" one, even though its a bigger file.

[Skvall]

The Motorstorm 2 trailer where in different quality on US store vs EU store too. Weird.

[Darkdrium777]

I got my version off Eurogamer. ;)

[Sausehuhn]

http://elhabib.at/2008/05/15/exclusive-full-hd-screenshots-zu-wipeout-hd/

[eLhabib]

You beat me to my own site news! Ouch! ;) Anyway - there ya have it fellas, enjoy!

[Lance]

Max must be one of those people who get up really really early in the morning. eek! [flees the horror of dawn light and crawls back under covers till past noon]

[Sausehuhn]

Or one of these people who live in the German timezone ;)

[Lance]

Yeah, but you got the drop on Martin, and he's in the same timezone. :D Or at least very close.

[eLhabib]

well it was close to noon really, so he didn't have to get up early. What's interesting though is that he posted it here only minutes after the pictures were posted on my site, so he must be scanning the internets for new wipEout HD stuff CONSTANTLY :D
I'm with you, Max, can't wait for this game either!

[RJ O'Connell]

There's some liveries I hadn't seen before! And they all look impressive.

Well, I'm still not too keen on the green Triakis.