Wipeout PS3 INFO?!

[yawnstretch]

http://www.datascope.co.uk/scee/

Scroll down!

:)

[Sausehuhn]

They are looking for network specialists?!?

online gaming anyone?!

:hyper


PS: the "Environment Builder" part is for Sumi ;)

[yawnstretch]

"The Wipeout Team are looking for an experienced Network User Interface Programmer to take control of the lobby, ladders and other client/server front end systems. The candidate must have good C/C++ skills and at least one published title. Knowledge of HTML, Java, Tomcat & JSP is a requirement and experience with SCE-RT would be an advantage."

Its under Network User Interface Programmer

[Lion]

cool, it's interesting seeing the varied sources that game info can come from...
so we now know that wipeout/ps3 is planned to have online play with a ladder system

[eLhabib]

was there ever any doubt? ;)

[mikrucio]

HOLY ****!!!!
wipeout ps3!!
this is gonna be VERY entertaining.
it's well over 1 year away. but still coming none the less.!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:dizzy

[lunar]

Great find Yawns :) Something is afoot at SL. Though, unless I missed something on that page, there`s nothing to confirm that this lucky person will be working on a PS3 Wipeout. It could be a new PSP wipeout game, or even some other possibility. I read a few reports that EU Pure would feature online gaming. It`s curious that on the US version you click "Download" to go online and get your packs. On the EU you click "Online". Now we`re really into wild speculation of course. ;) I really hope it`s PS3 though.

[Rapier Racer]

Online PS3 Wipeout, that’s enough to make you wet yourself! If it’s anything like Pure with better than Fusions graphics, which were nice then WHOA :dizzy

[username]

i dunno, i have a bad feeling that it is going to turn out like fusion :frown:

[Sausehuhn]

I have a bad feeling that it is going to turn out like Pure.


Nothing against Pure - I really love this game - but I don't want a Pure2. I want longer, wider and thinner tracks, I want other weapons, I want another design, I want more history and I last but not least I want ANOTHER HANDLING!
I want a real WipEout that is going back to the roots somehow.

[Mobius]

I want to ba able to afford a PS3, then I might consider getting one in a coupla years. I cant just rely on Wipeout and UT'07 to keep me amused with something that expensive...

Ive got my psp, which is good and all, but the lack of games is bothering me a bit.

Im lookink forward to seeing screenies (E3 anyone?) There is always some soret of magic with me when I see some for the first time.

[Lance]

Max: both wider And thinner tracks?

[username]

guessing that some parts are wide and some thin, but yes as max said, i want a wipeout with a more real feel to it

[Sausehuhn]

@ Lance and Dan

yes. I want thinner and wider parts. And then some tracks with more wider than thinner parts and the other way around.
Something new.
Do you know how fast you can get on these wider parts?

[eLhabib]

exactly as fast as you get on thin parts :P

[lunar]

I think the general width of the tracks in Pure is just right. The Delta packs experiment nicely with track width: from the huge open first turn of Iridia to the bottlenecks of Anulpha Pass and Koltiwa, but any more than this would be too much, and in the game generally there`s not too much of anything regarding narrowness or wideness, which leaves you wanting more, which is good. This is possibly a lesson learnt from Fusion, which was a game that always tried to go too far in almost every respect, and ended up going nowhere. I`d be very surprised if they turned out another Fusion disaster on PS3, particularly if the Pure team inherit the job.

[Sausehuhn]

@ eL

yes and no. A wider part can have more speed pads (because of more space) and you don't hit the wall that easily, so you also don't lose speed.


@ lunar

I like the mix as well. Even when I don't like the Delta Pack that much (mainly because of the design) I like the mix between thinner and wider parts.
But Pure's tracks a short. And I hope on PS3 we will see tracks as long as Altima or Cubiss Float.
If they really make that long tracks it's important to keep the track interesting. Bigger and thinner parts would bring variation... not to mention open areas like they are on Florion Height which I would like to see back - wisely used they can be alot of fun I'm sure.

[username]

yes i see what you mean max, good idea. but i think in general the tracks need to be thicker all round slightly (exept for the finner parts).

also still as max and i said: a more real feel would be better

[lunar]

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/PS3_Bananna_Pad_Scrapped_UPDATE_9924_0_17.htm

not really wipeout ps3 info, but it could be if the motion sensing is implemented in a future wipeout game. It sounds a bit scary to me, but if this controller works well it could possibly free us to turn and change pitch simaltaneously, such as you can only do accurately with a neg at the moment.

[Zerow]

I'm not fussed about what the PS3 controller will look like, but it would be nice to go hands on with the 'banana phone'.

As for changing direction and pitch at the same time accurately in PS3 WipEout, I'm all in favour of that, should be great. :)

[Mano]

At least for Wipeout i think it would be better backwards compatibility and full freedom for button assignment for the negcon; or better yet, a new and improved negcon.

[Asayyeah]

I agree Mano , i vote for a new Neggie wireless in a Wipeout ps3 exclusive bundle pack :)

[lunar]

Oh yes, a fantastic thought. :D With four shoulder buttons too.

[infoxicated]

Would you really need the negcon with the new tilt-sensitive PS3 controller? ;)

[lunar]

I don`t suppose there`s much chance of sony supporting a new negcon , or possibly even old ones, having just brought out their own tilty thing, anyway. In the interests of level playing fields and all that, maybe it would be better if old negcons weren`t supported. Heresy! I hope Asa and Mano don`t read this. :paperbag

I`d say my main concern with the tilt controller could be knowing where the centre is. But we will have to wait and see how it works, if there`s a wipeout ps3 and if it supports tilt. We are lacking real substance for this topic at the moment. :)

[Mano]

For precision, definitely, tilt sensors are not that accurate as far as i know (i could be worng).

Besides racing always requires some kind of tactile feedback and im not referring to force feedback, but like Lunar says you need to know things like where is the center phisically, otherwise control would work but would be very imprecise.
If that werent the case F1 cars would usually (not referring to probable new technology prototypes) be driven by sensors as would be jet fighters.

we need the precision to reach and control higher speeds, its bonded. Like that Pirelli advertisement campaign: "power is nothing without control"

like Asayyeah said a bundle would be great. i would be all over it like an adolescent over a playboy poster.

Lunar: i read that, not very happy with you right now, will probably send a couple of viruses your way ;)

i always hear that about leveling stuff, but shouldnt we be thinking about leveling it taking as example the best? and work it up that way? if not then we should all play with dpads since many might not have a dualshock....;besides negcons (at least the white ones) are really cheap, and well for example in every competition there are different equipment differencies.

But in this case its not only about having an edge, the game is, in my case, really more fun to play with a negcon.

[Dominator]

I have a bad feeling that it is going to turn out like Pure.


Nothing against Pure - I really love this game - but I don't want a Pure2. I want longer, wider and thinner tracks, I want other weapons, I want another design, I want more history and I last but not least I want ANOTHER HANDLING!
I want a real WipEout that is going back to the roots somehow.
Yes history, roots, and bring back the old "Force Wall" weapon, was that it's name? It's been sooo long!!

[lunar]

well, just floating out an idea, Mano. I knew you wouldn`t like it. ;) I`m just thinking that maybe it`s not a good thing for peak performance only to be possible using what is, after all, a discontinued product. But maybe there`s no need to worry because hardcore players will always find negs, if they want them, and the rest don`t really care. I think you made a very good point, especially that it is more fun with a negcon, but a new neg is definitely the best solution, unless the tilt dual shock works better than we guess it will. :)

[JABBERJAW]

the negcon better be included, especially since the majority of the base here uses it. It would be cool if the tilt sensitive controller worked well, but my guess is that it will be crap compared to the negcon.

[infoxicated]

I have to disagree there Al - I'd be quite surprised if the "majority" of times on this site were set using a NegCon. The majority of the top times perhaps, but I'd put good money on a very high perentage being set with D-Pad or Analogue Stick.

Personally I hate the fact the negcon even exists - it ruined Wipeout 3 for me. Couple of plays with a NegCon showed me how easy it was to get better times with it and I just lost all faith in whatever was motivating me to go for good times. For comparison it would be like discovering people were playing Socom online with a mouse and keyboard when I'm stuck with dual shock - I'd just give up on that too.

Most PlayStation controllers vary within set parameters depending on who makes them - Sony, Logitech, etc. However, in my opinion, the advantage in turning agility provided by the negcon makes it an unfair advantage over the basic Dual Shock and the third party derivatives. When the playing field isn't level I might as well be comparing apples to oranges when I'm comparing times on the records tables.

Looking at the specs, there are no legacy ports for older controllers on the PS3. With the NegCon being twelve years old now I'd gladly see it go unsupported in all future Wipeout sequels. Sure, that's going to upset a few people out there, but I imagine the majority will welcome the level playing field.

[Asayyeah]

no upset for me just disillusioned.
The old free spirit of Neggie is disappearing into the limbo of Normalisation.
That sucks.
Keep in mind those who are racing simulation with a stering wheel what do they search ? only to get the closest feeling to drive like a real car , don't they? That's why they have choosen to buy one rather than using the 'normal' Dpad. It's similar to Neggie , this is the most immersive controller for playing wipeout and subsidiarily get the best time with it.

[Lance]

You already know how I love neGcon!

[Zerow]

I never even got the chance to try a neGcon. I would like to, just to see how it feels to me.

[SubLux]

better than Fusions graphics

understatement... :D

so most of you use the NegCon to achieve good times? why? bechause of the amount of analog "travel" it allows? i have almost allways used the old D-pad infact.. oh, and could anyone list their top time on altima on a PAL Wipeout? venom class... wonder if my old one is any good..

[Mano]

I totally agree with Arnaud, its about immersion too, but like most games you try to get good hardware to enjoy more the experience or to see how better can you do with it, in my experience someone that uses lesser hardware and gets good performance isnt necessarily better than the one using the best.

for one i think that diversity is a must in everything, its true that standarization is very helpful, but if things go to standarized then again tend to slow down evolution, in our case: in the game, in skill, in possibilities, etc.

When things get easier wih new hardware you try new stuff, you break limits, if you just use it in the boundaries that your previous hardware set then of course youre going to get bored with it.

[JABBERJAW]

Yeah, but they someone will make a steering wheel that works great with it(n64 had two of them). Not as good as a negcon, but also still much better than the analog stick. I have always hated the analog dual shock for any game and hate that I have to use it sometimes. I always preferred the joysticks due to it having arm/hand control as opposed to thumb control for accuracy, though, not many good dual analog joysticks out there anymore. DAmn it namco, get your head out of there and get a new neggie going(but at least give it a better design so it will sell).

[Mano]

I second that with the top of my lungs.

They need to boost that racing niche group that LOVES the negcon (japan mostly) and get a design that appeals to everyone, but for god sakes dont sacrifice anything in performance, good designs are integral.

I know this might be too much to ask for something that might not even happen, since logitech got their mittens on the racing fans with the logitech DFP; which i might add im wanting to get my hands on. But definitely there are chances to make good money out of it, taking the price range approach.

For an improved negcon i would be willing to pay up to 50 USD, provided it has great performance (better than the previous), great build quality (way better built than the originals) with a replaceable "twist", and a good design overall (well placed buttons, good assignment, good looking, etc.).

Maybe for it to sell well it needs to be a proven thing between racers and reviewers.... and a lower price range.... after that if its successful they can start shelling out better and more expensive models, who knows.

[Asayyeah]

Ok Neg-luvers it's time for us to unify our power and create a Pro-Namco-Neg-lobby and spam it all over the net. mwhuahahah:robot

[lunar]

to continue the unnofficial "PS3 Wipeout controller thread"...... One of the main problems we anticipate with the tilt controller for Wipeout is the matter of accuracy, and "knowing where the centre is." Dpad/stick control doesn`t satisfy many players because it lacks really independent turning/pitch controls. These problems could quite possibly be overcome simply by assigning the analogue stick/dpad for left/right movement only, while the forward/backward tilt function was used for pitch control, with all other functions disabled in regard to tilt. In this way, by combining tilt and standard controls, perhaps the tilt sensitive Dual Shock could give us the kind of control many of us want.

This would maybe not be as good as a neg, but who knows until you try it? And it would quite probably be better than all-tilt or all-stick/pad control for some players. The chances of us playing PS3 wipeout with new or old negs is pretty remote anyway, we just have to hope that SL will find new ways to make the game as exciting as it was back in the day, and to give us the control the game needs. :)

[yawnstretch]

Hey Lunar,

Not much info on wipeout at the mo :(
But then there isn't much info on other big games either (2 seconds of Ridge Racer and nothing of Killzone). I really want to get a PS3 but nothing was mentioned about our fav game at E3.

That said, Im sure more info's on the way. A friend of mine seemed to think that the PS3 would be compatable with PS2 controllers - which would also allow NegCons wouldn't it? Is the PS3 compatable with PS1 games?

The new controller brings about interesting possibilities and I think your idea of the d-pad/analog being used for turning whilst using the tilt forward and back for pitch is a good one.

I have an idea to add to yours. If a person tilted the pad in the air quickly left and right the barrel roll could be accomplished in a very cool way.

Don't forget the pad also senses if it is lifted up and down which might also be used somehow.

[Sausehuhn]

As far as I know the PS3 won't support PS1/PS2-controllers.

[Zerow]

Yes, PS3 is fully backwards compatible with PSOne and PS2 games, but you cannot use PSOne or PS2 controllers for it, I believe.

[Glockster0]

Just wish We get back True Pitch Control @ some point woohoo I'm back Fast Eddie style.

[yawnstretch]

I wish Sony would announce some news about the next wipeout - especially given the success of pure :(

PS3 isn't looking very exciting at the mo - this is the kind of game that would generate a lot of interest in the expensive machine.

[ShaneNewville]

I am going to cry for days on end if there is no Wipeout for PS3.

I originally bought psx for the very love of Wipeout and XL at the time.
If I had money for a PSP, I buy it for Pure. The same goes for PS3.
I like other games, but, the Wipeout series holds a special place in my heart forever.

[lunar]

there is going to be another Wipeout, don`t worry about that. :)

As Yawns says, some announcement would be appreciated, but I suppose Sony has a plan for the right time to release any official news. It just can`t come soon enough for us.

[Riccardo Raccis]

I really need a Pure 2 for my PSP. I spend two hours a day on the bus you know ;)

[lunar]

I believe that might be possible as Pure was such a success. We might also get more PSP wipeout if/when Sony release the PS1 emulator for it. Dream of Wipeout 3 on your psp..... 8)

[q_dmc12]

or original wipeout:hyper

EDIT: I wonder if the emu will have adhoc ...

[eLhabib]

now THAT would be killer!

[Zerow]

There's a good chance it will support Ad-Hoc for PSOne games. I certainly hope so. :)

And a sequel to Pure on PSP? Yes, please! :D

[eLhabib]

actually I don't think they will support ad-hoc. the original version didn't have an ad-hoc multiplayer interface (of course not), and I don't think they'll build one for each game...

[q_dmc12]

well how would ppl be able to play the multiplayer games with other ppl???

(I.E. twisted metal, WO3, 2097, WipEout(was there 2 player??), jeopardy, football, etc.????)

[eLhabib]

of course there was multiplayer in those original games, but for several players on a single console, which of course isn't possible on a psp. however, if they were to convert that single console multiplayer, or even the link cable multiplayer, into a wireless multiplayer, they would have to implement that seperately into the code of each game emulation, which sounds like WAY too much work to be realized. My guess is those emulations will be 1:1 ports, without any enhancements, and the originally built in multiplayer simply won't work.
but you can always hope...

[Mad-Ice]

The idea of putting all the wipeout titles onto psp would be so nice!!
Can't we all just keep on writing to sony and make them crazy for it? I don't think it would be that hard to do it.

[eLhabib]

it's already semi-confirmed that the old wipEout titles will appear as emulations on PSP.

[Zerow]

Sounds like Ad-Hoc is pretty much out of the picture then.

Ah well, simply being able to play PSOne games on PSP is still going to be amazing! :D

[Dominator]

When wipEout comes out on PS3 I would love to see some sort of Special Edition type package incorporating the first three wipEout's as well as the new game, it was done with Doom 3, so why not our beloved wipEout, please SL/Sony surely it can be done, PS3 being backward compatible and all :D

[q_dmc12]

Sounds like Ad-Hoc is pretty much out of the picture then.

Ah well, simply being able to play PSOne games on PSP is still going to be amazing! :D
I can already play NES, SNES, Sega Genesis and N64 games on my psp:dizzy :p

and most of those emulators support wireless multiplayer anyway - I just don't get why it wouldn't be in Sony's best interest to do the same, homebrew or not. And why does it have to be so difficult if an amature (16 yr old) programmer can do the same...

[Mobius]

Once sony ventured into software market, they kinda got greedy, so even though no-one has to pay for homebrew, Sony don't particularly like the competition from a free market. Which i understand as many of the psp games out i have fond majorly dissapointign as they have only been console points, nothign bespoke or specially designed for, such as the ninty DS games...(everytime I babysit for some friends, i take my psp, so they play loco roco and i play ont he DS they have...its warped...very warped...)

What if Thom Yorke was a computer geek...? He'd proabably writitgn a song about it now...

[Lance]

And I'm sure the song would be convolutedly and heart-breakingly painful. And there would be some clearly discernable commentary on society and politics hidden in the personal tragedy.

I love Thom, and the rest of Radiohead, too, of course.
[digs way back into the past and starts singing My Iron Lung.]

[Asayyeah]

don't want to hijack this topic, cause i don't have any new info about ps3 wipe, but one step is acheived last day by purchasing a new Samsung lcd ( le32r73bd ) for playing in perfect condition when ps3 come with wipeout :)
i ve changed my old sony ( 14 years old always working perfectly ) hope to enjoy my new tv as long as it :)

[RingoSpoon]

Asa - have you played Pure on your big new HDTV yet using your PSP2TV? :)

Thats what I was planning doing at Christmas - on Kai of course ;)

[Lance]

What I want to know is if the PS3 actually exists. So far I've seen lots of hype and one tv ad two days ago that did not mention any actual date of availability. Is that just the usual pre-emptive advertising/promise that won't be delivered on for months or years that Sony often does to try to beat out competitive products that are actually already on sale?

[Mobius]

They were planning a worldwide launch...and this is the final result.

Japan: 11/11/06
North America: 16/11/06
Europe and Australasia: Hell/freezes/over

I love being a Brit sometimes...but the reaosns are slowly fading away. I must admit I fell in love with the USA when I went this summer. So its just another nail in the coffin for em to move when i get the chance to :p

Anyway, back on topic...*relurks*

[guillaume]

Hopefully we'll see the PS3 in Europe in march 2007....
With the next Wipeout? That would be great :)

[Rapier Racer]

Probably not and definately not ;)

[Sausehuhn]

I don't want a new WipEout to be released within the next year, really not.
It's the 1st time that a WipEout is no launch title for a new PlayStation console, which means that Studio Liverpool has the time to include all planned finally.

Just an example: as far as I know the classic tracks in pure look like "tron" because SL didn't have the time to completely re-create them with all the environment.
Now SL can take as much time as they want (if there's no Sony boss who thwarts them) and they really should use that time so the next WipEout will be something outstanding; gameplay, graphic and content wise.

[Lion]

Europe and Australasia: Hell/freezes/overthis made me laugh :)

there's video around showing the menu structure and such (very similar to PSP's XMB)
it's meant to tie into central station and playstation online. so if you didn't activate the network gaming thing with your psp or ps2 then you should probably do so to get the name you want in preparation for the ps3

[Asayyeah]

Asa - have you played Pure on your big new HDTV yet using your PSP2TV? :)
Yeah mate i did it on our last session recorded, i must say this is absolutely playable , not pixellized at all ; it's just a bit weird to change from a tiny wonderful screen ( the one from the psp) to a large big tv screen.

Like Max said i really prefer SL work as much as they can to get the best wipeout ever whereas to have a launch title which is developped too quickly with buggy elements.

[DJ Techno]

What I want to know is if the PS3 actually exists. So far I've seen lots of hype and one tv ad two days ago that did not mention any actual date of availability. Is that just the usual pre-emptive advertising/promise that won't be delivered on for months or years that Sony often does to try to beat out competitive products that are actually already on sale?

*eyebrows raised*
500+ dollars and November 17th...will see.

[RingoSpoon]

Yeah mate i did it on our last session recorded, i must say this is absolutely playable , not pixellized at all ; it's just a bit weird to change from a tiny wonderful screen ( the one from the psp) to a large big tv screen.

:) Fantastic!! This was what i was hoping for this Christmas... Wipeout Pure / X-Link Kai displayed at a lovely 40 inches...I can just imagine how big the (back) quake would be ;) Please Santa make it so!! :)

[Asayyeah]

when you will have it make sure to get your sunglasses on : the explosion is really impressive on a big screen ;)

[RingoSpoon]

sweet mate, cheers for the heads up :):)

[lunar]

could this (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=69919) be Wipeout PS3 info? Well, we don`t know, but the idea of recording ingame footage sounds exciting for those online battles we`re hopefully going to have. :)

The link also contains Phil Harrison using the phrase "data cloud". This is going to catch on, and I`m going to use it at every opportunity from now on. :+

[Zerow]

Hopefully PS3 WipEout is the unannounced game being mentioned there. :nod

Even if it isn't though, we could well see a homebrew app that does the same thing*.

* - No need to worry about Sony blocking this sort of thing outright - PS3 is officially open-source!

[RingoSpoon]

Could anyone give me an idea when we are likely to see the PS3 version?

I must admit it is my most anticipated game. I see that some people have already got a PS3 :):)

I want one for Christmas :)

[Zerow]

Next Christmas, you mean? ;)

We likely will not see the PS3 version untill at least 2008. There's still a long time to wait.

[RingoSpoon]

Awwww dont say that :)

Hopefully an Online Hi-Def Quantum Redshift will come out on the 360 in the meantime ;)

[Dominator]

I read this article in Time Magazine!!
Will still buy the PS3, only when wipEout becomes available!!

Sony's Playstation 3 is Not Worth the Hype

People who have been camping out for days finally get their PS3s today. Sadly, both their time and money has been wasted
By LEV GROSSMAN (javascript:void(0))


Posted Friday, Nov. 17, 2006
Sony released the Playstation 3 in Japan on November 11. That was last Saturday. By Thursday Japanese import units had already made their way halfway around the world to New York City's Chinatown, where they were available for a 100% markup — and they were selling. That's how high the demand is for Sony's new video game machine: people would actually pay double the price to get it one day early. The Playstation 3 goes on sale in the U.S. today, but I wouldn't recommend buying one, not even for the regular price, which is plenty expensive without the import markup. Sure, the Playstation 2 was the bestselling machine from the previous generation, and sure, the Playstation3 is powered by a stupendously powerful chip, the "Cell processor." (I'm sorry, but naming a computer chip is like naming your genitals: you're compensating for something.) Patience, young padawan. The time has not yet come.

Look at what you get. The Playstation 3 is expensive: $500 or $600 bucks, depending on which version you buy, plus $60 for each game. (An Xbox 360 only costs $400 max, and Nintendo's Wii — yep, that name, still funny — is only $250.) For that kind of scratch you want the deluxe treatment, and the PS3 simply doesn't deliver it. It's got some good-looking games, but unless you have a top-notch TV, the difference isn't mind-blowing. (And even if you do have a fancy TV, Sony makes you supply your own HDMI cable. Stingy.) And Sony's launch line-up just isn't that interesting. Almost all the PS3's outstanding games — F.E.A.R., Madden NFL '07, Need for Speed: Carbon, Call of Duty 3 — are available on the Xbox 360, and most (all except F.E.A.R.) are out for the Wii, too. There just isn't the leverage there to make buying a PS3 de rigeur.
The only exclusive Playstation 3 title I'm really excited about is Resistance: Fall of Man, which is a truly fun shoot'em up set in an alternative version of the 1950s. Aliens have invaded earth; your job is to put bullets in them. While doing so you prowl through some gloriously detailed, beautifully gloomy factories and labs and shattered cityscapes. The audio is gorgeous, the weapons copious and diverse, the levels huge and complex. In short, it's my idea of a good time.
But so is Gears of War, the stunning shooter just out for the Xbox 360. Resistance isn't enough to drive sales of a $600 console, or it shouldn't be. Playstation 3 doesn't have a battle-tested, feature-rich online service the way the Xbox does. It doubles as a Blu-Ray DVD player (that's the main reason for the high retail price), but guess what? Nobody cares. And did I mention Playstation 3 controllers don't rumble? Whose genius idea was that? Without rumble, it just ain't a jungle.
Give it time. The price will (probably) come down. Sony's online strategy will (probably) mature. More decent games will come out — the Playstation3 is notoriously difficult to develop for, and game-makers are still figuring out how to get the most out of it. Next holiday season, it just might be worth it. For now it's pretty much moot anyway. Because of the difficulty of manufacturing Playstation 3's, Sony has only been able to put a few hundred thousand units on sale in the U.S., so unless you spent last night camped out in front of a Gamestop, buying a Playstation3 is not an option. Congratulations: you made the right call. And you smell better for it, too.

[infoxicated]

That's taken a wander off the map as far as the topic of the thread is concerned - I don't see a single bit of Wipeout PS3 info in there at all, just some, probably, non-gaming journalist telling people what they should think and do.

[Dominator]

Sorry Rob i didn't mean to go off topic!! :)
I'm currently in Australia and have heard from a friend who works for a big electronics chain here that 100,000 PS3 units have been recalled from the U.S. due to some sort of problem, don't know if there is any merit to this story, anyone heard anything like this coming out of the U.S.

[infoxicated]

Sorry Rob i didn't mean to go off topic!! :)
And yet you did it again straight away. :-

I have no problem with you speculating about the PS3 supply in a totally different thread, but either this thread is for discussing Wipeout PS3 info or it's locked - one of the two.

[Angryman]

Hey there.
Anyone know the game Motorstorm?
Apparently the engine from motorstorm is being shared by other internal Sony Game studios. One of the games rumored to be using it is Next Gen Wipeout.
Motorstorm happens to be one of the finest looking games on any of the next gen consoles with awesome lighting, particle effects and a solid framerate, so with a bit of tweaking and some Wipeout magic we could end up with the hottest looking game ever.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.8af7891cde.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8af7891cde.jpg)

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ce91462130.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ce91462130.jpg)

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ab7e9f9d74.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ab7e9f9d74.jpg)

[Medusa]

What about wipeout? On PS3??? This girl just wasted her time reading the whole thread...

(Lock?)

[rdmx]

Interesting, but unless the craft are being splattered with mud and we're having huge awesome crashes, I don't quite see how it works.

Plus, those pics don't do it justice man. It is so blurry - and I'm already wearing glasses...:blarg

MotorStorm:
http://au.media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/imgs_1.html

Fatal Inertia:
http://au.media.ps3.ign.com/media/749/749967/imgs_1.html

[kit-yun]

Hello, thank you pac666 for another topic, it is finally official the episode ps3, i'm happy ^^!

Wednesday I will test the playstation3 on MotorStorm in a salesman, an event because I don't buy the console at his exit (normal because I have the 360) I could see whether it can support the WipEout shock the BIG ps3 :-) MotorStorm is for the moment one of the only games who interest me, then hope that he tears off the face, but considering movies HD, I think that yes. The most important think is "gameplay", wait and see in two days.

[KANDANG]

just wonderin...

would u guys get a ps3 just for the new wipeout if the next wipeout on psp was alil dumbed down (graphics, tracks etc) compared to it?

[Lance]

.
Concerning the earlier diversion to Motorstorm, etc.: As Rob said earlier, this thread is strictly for discussion of Wipeout on PS3; let's keep it that way, please
.

[The Gracer]

i think it would be nice if they created a game that followed throughout the whole history of the FX leagues. all the way from the original game to the next (is it FX750?) league - showing you in a little greater detail the demise and corruption of the original leagues, and then the re-emergence of AG racing in the FX150 league (yes - i have been doing my homework - after abandoning wipeout after the disapointment of fusion i forgot about the series and its history entirely) . it would be cool to see all the old craft and circuits in next gen glory - and it would also make the game very diverse and lengthy. what do you guys think?

[Lance]

It would make the game impossibly expensive and we'd have to wait 5 years to see it. Except by that time a new console generation would arrive and the game would have to be rewritten for it, and we'd have to wait even longer than 5 years. [ :terminal shock: ] ;D

[The Gracer]

well....yeah. you are right. but im not giving up on the idea! :D

yes, :terminal shock: is pretty much the exact description for having to go [insert huge number] whole years without wipeout. 4 or so was bad enough.

[lovedr]

fyi

quote from Clemens Wangerin Development Director SCEE Liverpool taken from latest issue of Develop mag (http://www.developmag.com) delivered today:

"...Wangerin is sure that with the Pure experience under their belts, the team is now "beyond the notion of 'here's the planning, now lets go to alpha, beta, master, and then move on to the next part' - our plans include a period post-master now where new ideas are being built and packaged up for release.
The approach will presumably replicate itself for the next PSP instalment of WipEout and its PS3 debut."

Wangerin can't say much about either game yet, aside from acknowledge their existence, but providing "Sixaxis controls, maybe online multiplayer and downloadable content" to the latter, on a machine he says in fact "has a learning curve a lot easier than the vector units on the PS2" is what excites him.

And with one PS3 title already in the can, "the challenge for us now is to stay ahead of the curve".

[Sausehuhn]

Good find!

Finally an official proof for the next WipEout(s) :)

[Angryman]

http://www.developmag.com/files/cover_images/308/Dev69_web.pdf

here's the full article btw.
Studio liverpool feature starts at page 22 and the wipeout info is at page 25.

[Medusa]

WOW. Great find guys.
TWO new wipeouts on the way, another for the PSP besides the one for PS3!!! I am so pleasantly surprised!!!(even if it is the same game different format.0

[infoxicated]

If anyone's interested, in the picture of the development staff, I'm the twat wearing the Chargers hat in the middle background of the crowd with a face like Beaker from the Muppets. There were a bunch of shots taken at the time - figures that they'd pick the one where I wasn't smiling properly. :redface:

[Zerow]

Brilliant news! Even though there's no particular details. :nod

[Asayyeah]

Not bad ;)

[guillaume]

WOW. Great find guys.
TWO new wipeouts on the way, another for the PSP besides the one for PS3!!! I am so pleasantly surprised!!!(even if it is the same game different format.0

My English may not be good enough here. Do you mean "even if they choose to do the same game for both the PSP and the PS3", or is there any information already telling us that it will be the case?

What if they do the "same" game? On one hand I guess the PSP version would look bad compared to the PS3 one, so it might decrease the appeal of the PSP version. But on the other hand, they may implement some PSP vs PS3 mode, or a cooperative mode, and that could be awesome :g

I don't know what are the chances of SL doing two completely separate games. I'd say not many, simply thinking of the development costs.
I'm not sure what would be best either.

What do you think? :)

[Lion]

I hope that there is enough difference between the ps3 and psp versions of the game that it is desirable for the average joe to own both. I'd say a large portion of the people on these forums will buy both anyway.. but we are hardly representative.
I can understand why much of the game would be shared should that happen though.. sharing assets between 2 platforms has to result in a lower average development costs...

rob: since the cat is officially out of the bag now, and there's meant to be images or something finding their way online relatively soon... will you be hosting a copy on wipeoutzone.com or at least linking to it from the main page the moment it arrives online?

[infoxicated]

I wish I could answer that for you, mate, but I cant.

All the press releases are controlled from outwith the studio, down in London. Sometimes I'll be allowed to reveal stuff the day it's announced elsewhere (the download packs for Pure, for instance), other times we don't get anything for WipeoutZone until the horse has already bolted.

My hands are well tied, basically - you'd know if I could say something. :)

[Angryman]

if they are working on the psp and ps3 versions together, you can guarantee that they will have some form of PS3 - PSP link feature planned. What they have planned has piqued my curiosity.
I'm sure the difference b/w the psp and ps3 version will be significant but they will be interconnected somehow.
I hope Sony Liverpool show something soon after the PS3 launches in the UK/Pal regions.

[lovedr]

ooops - i hope i didn't let the cat out of the bag - but just had to post the news.

sorry if it trod on any toes.

[infoxicated]

Not at all - you're free to post whatever has been released... as am I, unfortunately, which means we rarely get any exclusives. :|

[Sausehuhn]

*images Rob watching the next game's progress and being happy while thinking "ha-ha, you lot don't know which f*cking nice things are going on here*

;)

[RJ O'Connell]

Already revealed, but now it's confirmed on GameSpot (which means it's "official"):


Sony confirms Wipeout for PS3

Futuristic racing sim series will be headed to the PlayStation 3, but no title or date yet.

By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Feb 5, 2007 5:30 am PT

Last June, job adverts were spotted on recruitment consultant Datascope's Web site for a lead designer position at Sony. The ad was marked "urgent," and said the job would be "to have a key role in realising future iterations of Wipeout on the PlayStation Portable and the PS3."

This would seem to be conclusive proof that Wipeout PS3 was coming, but Sony refused to make an official announcement regarding the property.

In an interview with Develop magazine, Sony Liverpool director Clemens Wangerin finally let the cat out the bag--Wipeout PS3 is definitely in development.

He said the game would use the Sixaxis controller and would "maybe" feature online and multiplayer content. A Sony spokesperson confirmed the title, and said, "We have nothing to add, but we will be making an announcement with more details in the near future."
Now I have a reason to buy the PS3 in the future. This is great news. ^_^

[infoxicated]

The fact that gamespot have taken the Develop mag article and quoted it makes it official?

How exactly does that make it any more official?

The job advert at Frontier Developments (http://www.frontier.co.uk/) said for three years that when you went to work there you'd be working on all sorts of exciting projects, including Elite. Guess what - no new version of Elite has been released or announced! :D

[Lance]

Given Sony's past history, it is a given that Wipeout and GT will be in development for the next generation console.

You will notice however, that the rumour mill doesn't have any details of the the game. Look what a surprise Fusion was when it eventually was released. We ain't gonna know much of nothin till just before release.

{sorry for the double negative, but I was feeling silly, like the journalists. ;) }

[RJ O'Connell]

Yeah. In between late 2000 and when Fusion was released stateside I saw no new screens except the early developmental ones...and then after all this waiting it turns out to be the black sheep of the series. :/

[eLhabib]

Hi guys, long time no see. Thought I'd drop by to spread the rumor that first details and most likely screens of PS3 wipEout are supposedly to surface this or next week (this info comes from inside Sony) - so I think it is finally time to get excited!

cheers, eL

[rdmx]

*Becomes silent*
*Raises lighter in the air*

[infoxicated]

// Hopes he has a whole lot of fuel in that lighter.
// Has a feeling that he'll be holding it for a long time before he sees PS3 Wipeout screen shots.

[eLhabib]

what I posted is just what I heard from someone who is in contact with Sony HQ every week. I guess you probably know a lot more about what's really going on...

[Asayyeah]

Long time no see Martin, you left Wipeout board & Kai for too long !
You probably know that we will spend great time in MArch in Amsterdam for the 1st euro convention hope to see ya there and feel free to post here (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3662) if you interested ;)

[Lance]

:o The ghost returns. Hi eL! About time you got back here. :)

[Rapier Racer]

It is indeed, now put WoW in the bin and back away slowly...

[eLhabib]

WoW??? Oh my goodness, what are you thinking of me? I would never touch that thing of evil, it turned too many of my friends into full-time basement-inhabitants!
Nah, I'm just busy and moving in with my girl on top of it. Been lurking the boards here and there, but don't have the time yet to really pick up speed again. Expect me back in action by April! ;)
cheers to y'all!

oh and Arnaud: I read about the Amsterdam convention, and I'd LOVE to go! I just don't think it's gonna fit on my schedule, sorry. But then you never know what's gonna happen...

[Sausehuhn]

PS3 WipEout uses MotorStorm game engine (http://ps3.qj.net/Start-your-engines-WipEout-uses-MotorStorm-game-engine/pg/49/aid/83592)

[Lance]

Sure, sure.


qj says that EGM says.

somebody else on another site quotes qj saying that EGM says.

What did EGM actually say and is it believable?

I suspect we're not going to know for a while.

[infoxicated]

I don't really want to spell this out, because, to the inteligent folk we have here on WipeoutZone, it should be pretty obvious how completely wrong this rumour is.

So, instead, I'll put forward the question; Did any of the F1 titles, or Wipeout Pure, use the WRC engine developed by Evolution Studios?

[rdmx]

*expects someone to find a very logical answer to foxy's question*

Um... No?

[Cannon_Fodder]

Yeah, how gullible can you be! It's obvious Pure used the Loco Roco engine!

If only it had used the music...

Errr...

[infoxicated]

Yeah... if only! :D

[RingoSpoon]

Not played loco for ages I will need to fire it up later.. :)

Anyway..

Has anyone got any information on where that fantastic F5000 Tilt pic came from ? :)

I watched the intro to 2097 the other week...if only Wipeout PS3 played like that :) Awesome

[Angryman]

I don't really want to spell this out, because, to the inteligent folk we have here on WipeoutZone, it should be pretty obvious how completely wrong this rumour is.

So, instead, I'll put forward the question; Did any of the F1 titles, or Wipeout Pure, use the WRC engine developed by Evolution Studios?

Although wipeout for the PS3 might not end up using the Motorstorm engine, Sony did set up their World Wide Studios this gen specifically so that other Sony teams could share technology, this wasn't available last gen.
Aren't other Sony teams using the rain effect from F1 CE?
Evolution also stated that there were at least 2 other games in the works using their Motorstorm engine.

[RingoSpoon]

The first time I seen Motorstorm I thought to myself... if only the next Wipeout had that engine :) I hope you are right mate :)

[Cannon_Fodder]

Out of interest, why "if only the next Wipeout had that engine"?

Sony Liverpool wrote their own engine for Pure, wrote their own engine for F1 PS3 and all their previous games (I believe), why don't you think they could do as good/ better job for Wipeout PS3?

Given we haven't seen anything of a new PS3 Wipeout, it seems a little early to doubt it's quality. Alternatively, they go and grab the Motorstorm engine and you're happy :)

[il_NIK]

And... do you know, guys, if it will be possible to play in internet with PSP by the next PS3?

[Sausehuhn]

Got that info (http://ps3.qj.net/Sony-Immersion-sign-new-rumble-deal/pg/49/aid/84690) which doesn't exactly say rumble is planned for PS3, but imo there's a big chance that it's supposed to be.
So, SL, please integrate a bit rumble-code in the next WipEout. If not for original PS3 controllers, than for 3rd-party controllers or for the force feedback steering wheel thingie.

[Lance]

This is what an article in Ars Technica says [partial quote:
>
Just last week, Sony was still justifying taking out rumble by calling it a "last-gen" feature. While Sony executives can be commended for staying on message, it is a little jarring when the message changes so quickly. "We look forward to exploring with Immersion exciting new ways to bring the largest and best range of gameplay experiences to our customers," said Kazuo Hirai, President and Group COO of Sony. Suddenly, rumble isn't "last-gen" any more.
>

[RingoSpoon]

Yeah the rumble got removed as it interferes with the six-axis tilt mechanism im sure.

No doubt the tilting will get implemented in some way - hopefully not much as I have heard poor reports about it.

[Thruster2097]

I can only speak from experience here. It's pretty much what i do anyway but this time its justified ;D
The introduction of the DualShock motors to the pad revolutionised how feedback was provided to the player. Nintendo were pretty much on the pulse with this new idea, quickly followed suit, come to a stage now that a controller that does not rumble seems dead.
This time round, Nintendo are leading the way with the Wii; total manuverability, rumble feature, wireless, blue LED (and yes they're important!)

If the sixaxis can go any way to emulate the greatness of the Wii's peripheral range, scope, practicality and feedback thenim goini gt be impressed!
Really dont see why a rumble motor can or will interfere with the gyroscopes!

[Rapier Racer]

Interfering with the tilt mechanism what a lot of crap they just didn't want to pay up!

[JABBERJAW]

And actually have more than two buttons

[lunar]

Could GDC tomorrow be the big announcement day? From Sony`s press release:

"Phil Harrison's keynote presentation, "Game 3.0: Developing and
Creating for the 3rd Age of Videogames," will kick off the conference on
March 7th, from 10:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. PST. The speech will focus on the
key components of Game 3.0 -- community, user-generated content,
collaboration and commerce -- all highlighted through live demonstrations
of previously un-announced services and games for PLAYSTATION(R)3
(PS3(TM))."

I can`t think of any other un-announced PS3 games, though that`s surely because they haven`t been announced yet. Going by what we`ve read in recent interviews with Sony execs, Wipeout would seem to fit right in to what Phil Harrison will be talking about. :sonar

[rdmx]

*checks amount of lighter fluid remaining*
*raises lighter in air*
*lighter fails to ignite*
Dammit!

I hope it is about PS3 wipeout :D

[Sausehuhn]

I can`t think of any other un-announced PS3 games, though that`s surely because they haven`t been announced yet.

that made me laugh xD
good one mate :P

[RingoSpoon]

Had a look for some info on the GDC - he didnt even mention Warhawk or Killzone, never mind Wipeout :)

Info and links to vids here..

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157806 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157806)

[Rapier Racer]

Saw this in OPM

Rumour Machine Insider Whispers

Sony is working on a next gen Wipeout game that will feature Sixaxis steering

God damn it give us something more solid that this they are more secretive about Wipeout than Rockstar are with GTA

[heatseeker]

according to e3 the saiaxis pad can do a lot more than let you play games.Sure dualshock is gone but there are advantadges.
take MGS 4 for example no ap sensor but if a 3.11 psp is about it can control metal gear mk.II. NOTE:sorry for going off subject .

[Rapier Racer]

the saiaxis pad can do a lot more than let you play games

Yeah I use it to control my microwave too

[Lance]

I used a pre-production model to steal control of a neighbor's 5000 dollar radio control airplane. Gave him quite a scare, I did. Pulled it out of a dive just before it hit his car.

;)

[q_dmc12]

HAHA! That sounds awsome!

[Max A K Challie]

Next up: Satellites. Then: Satellites with Ion Cannons.

[supersocks]

Is this old news or what? Couldn't find it anywhere else (In finnish only):
http://pelaajalehti.com/2007/06/17/wipeout-hd-on-playstation-3/

Summary:
- WipEout HD was mentioned by Tony Buckley during Pulse preview event.
- Development team wants to bring out first version of WipEout for PS3 as soon as possible.
- They'll release more complete WipEout games for PS3 in future this being "the first step".
- Apparently it's a remake but it's not known what kind of content it'll feature (journalist speculating...).

[Sausehuhn]

Nice :)


PS: I want that artwork.

[lunar]

Nice one Supersocks. If true, that`s the most awesomest thing ever. :D

Korodera, Silverstream and Firestar in HD would be terrifying.

Now all we need to be told is that Namco and Sony are joining up to make the Negcon v2, featuring four shoulder buttons and wireless. *slips off into dream* ;)

[supersocks]

A rough translation of last paragraph:
It is to be seen if WipEout HD will feature old tracks from the series with HD graphics or is it a port of PSP version.

I wouldn't actually get my hopes up for F3600 HD but then again who (http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=wipeout-game&tld=com) knows.

Anyway. F3600 in High Definition would be yummy.

[eLhabib]

Tony Buckley interview (Kikizo):
http://games.kikizo.com/features/wipeout_iv_p1.asp

[Mad-Ice]

You just keep on coming with the good news! Thanks man. All this news about Pulse and Wipeout for the PS3 is really hyping me up. I just can't wait anymore.

[Sausehuhn]

All that information that goes around in these last days make me crazy.
Just what Mad-Ice said: I just can't wait anymore.