New wipeout!! actually an older game like wipeout

[JABBERJAW]

There is this old arcade game that EGM2 once said was better than wipeout. I never played the game. I have looked for this on a Rom for a long time and just found it. I am going to my uncles this weekend to try to download and play it. Once I have it figured out how to play I'll post all the information that is needed to play it. I saw pictures and it looks graphically a little better than Xl, and it looked like the ship was sliding around a turn, so it may be promising. Some of the stuff EGM says is complete crap though

[Task]

AL!

Give us a name, dammit! 8 D

[Roger]

This reminds me of an arcade game I played last summer. The game was all about racing inside a twisting pipe, grabbing power ups and avoiding obstacles.

It was a "lie down" cabinet, you had the screen almost straight above you. Control was using a steering wheel (!). Can't remember the name of the game, dammit!

[Animagic]

if it's that old bullfrog game called Hi-Octane, then prepare to be disappointed.

[eLhabib]

heh, hi octane! funny you brought that up! I remember it somewhere in the back of my head, like a myth. it was quite fun though, a solid Sega Saturn title. nothing to compete with w'o'' though.

[JABBERJAW]

not hi octane. We'll see if anyone can guess it. Only an arcade game. If anyone guesses it before I check it out this weekend, I'll send them a package with some wipeout stuff in it. First clue: It has barrel rolls. Sounds like pure stole this feature from it

[Lion]

Roger: the game you were playing was Ballistics. it's an arcade port of a fun game that was a GeForce3 release title on PC
I love the effect when you pass the sound barrier :D

edit: roger is this (http://www.grin.se/images/ballistics_arcade/ballistics_arcade_4.jpg) it?

[eLhabib]

my first guess would be cyber speed. a very bold clone of w'o''.

my second guess would be killer loop.

and then there's this game I still have a picture of in my mind, but I can't remeber its name... I'll fid out...

oh and I hope you are NOT talking about Powerdrome, that game sucks major ass!

[Animagic]

oh and I hope you are NOT talking about Powerdrome, that game sucks major ass!

hahahahahaaa!!!
so true...

how about Scorcher or Powerslide?

but you said this game was arcade only?
never been ported?

[eLhabib]

oooooh wait, are you talking about 'FLUX' by any chance? that game was quite wipEout-ish!

btw, does anyone knoe hyperdrive? it's an arcade machine by midway, also a w'o'' clone, but a pretty cool one! lots of skill and high speed there!

[Rapier Racer]

nah Killer Loop doesn't have barrel rolls

[Roger]

Yeah, Lion, that's it! Man, that "Mad Wave Motion System" gives quite a thump on the back!

[JABBERJAW]

eL Habib is the winner. Hyperdrive!! Is it any good? Does it have pitch control? How fast is it. Send me a PM with your address and I'll mail you some stuff this weekend. It's on a website called ceasar. xx I don't remember, just type in Hyperdrive Rom in yahoo and you will be able to find it.

Animajic, I actually like scorcher. It could have been better though with more bikes(read marbles) and options. The tracks were hard as heck.

[eLhabib]

8O
whow, it's 5 in the morning, I am just coming home from all night D&B shaking goodness, and now you wowed me!

schweet!
didn't know there was a rom version of hyperdrive! that game is actually VERY cool, although you can clearly see it's a bit of a ripoff from w'o''. Handling is very nice and clean, as I said before, lots of skill and speed required. Track design and style differ quite a bit from w'o'' as far as I can remember, but the couple of times I played it in the arcades I enjoyed it very much. I think I remember it had like an extra turbo feature or something I found very cool. You can definitely be looking forward to it! Be sure to tell me how the rom version is performing, I might want to check that one out, too!

I'll send you a PM with my addy and stuff when I get up again, don't wanna do it now due to lack of concentration, I don't wanna mess anything up :D (heh, I'm surprised this post is still in understandable english! :blarg )

cheers

[Lion]

Animajic, I actually like scorcher. It could have been better though with more bikes(read marbles) and options. The tracks were hard as heck.I have this on sega saturn and thought it was arse personally :)
probably just because I have so much difficulty keeping it on the track after the 3rd one

[Axel]

Are you talking about this arcade game?
http://www.arcadeflyers.net/?page=flyerdb&subpage=thumbs&id=519
If you are, then it looks pretty good for an old game.

[Roger]

Found a good looking Hyperdrive fanpage (http://www.animbomb.com/hyperdrive/). Sure looks sweet!

[zargz]

Yeh this game Does look like wo" but you can't take off and there are not lots of bumps.
I saw it in the Arcade last summer they had 2 of them - broken
I wanted to buy 1 and put wo3 in it - my bro got a friend tha can do that!
But someone got it before me and they repared the 2nd one.
I saw it some weeks ago, someone was playing it but I didn't play it .. :?
May be give it a go next time I go there.
The steering wheel though is perfect - you can press it down and up for the nose and
it's got 2 flops on the backside like the F1 steering that could be used for airbreaks if adapted for a wo" game! 8)

[Manic]

Ha! Nothing can ever compete with the Wipeing of the Out! Nothing!

Did like that Idea with the steering wheel though. As long as it's not in my crotch driving me nuts, agh! But what see I would want the is something which looks pretty much like a split column of steering of a motorcycle so you can control the thrust, vectoring of and the airbrakes of the engines of each side on twin-engined crafts. That is good with the harder of driving but better maneuverability, is good... is ambidextrous with the hands...

[JABBERJAW]

LIon, you should see the last track, unbelievably hard. I don't think it's great, but I had fun with it because it was so hard. I thought the graphics were great(especially on the last two track) for the time, except for the aerogauge like draw in

[JABBERJAW]

Alright, We couldn't get hyperdrive loaded up, partially because of windows xp and we couldn't find the actual download of the game, which is on this site somewhere.

If anyone could get this game running that would be great.
1) go to yahoo, type in Hyperdrive Rom Caesar
2) this will bring you to the site where you can download the game and the emulator. If anyone can get this running that would be great.

[gbit]

Well, after reading this thread yesterday, I just had to play this game. And after an entire evening of searching across the net, I've found what you need to play this game:

1. A computer of sorts, running any major OS (i.e. windows xp, OSX, and linux)
2. An arcade machine emulator such as MAME (www.mame.net)
3. A ROM of Hyperdrive (www.emucation.com)
4. Hyperdrive's hard drive image file (a CHD file in arcade emulation circles)

Everthing is nice and easy to find up to step no. 4 :)

The easiest way, IMHO, to get this is using bittorrent, with the torrent file found at:

http://www.torrentreactor.net/view.php?id=5098765

The file that this torrent file will let you download is ~28GB 8O in size. It is a collection of all the CHD files for every game that MAME supports. One of these CHD files is Hyperdrive's CHD file.

Now, the bittorrent client BitComet (www.bitcomet.com) lets you download single files from within torrent files, so using this, you can download just Hyperdrive's CHD file, which is ~360MB, and save your self from having to download the other 27.xGB.

Fortunately, there are plenty of people who are sharing this torrent on the Bittorrent network, so speeds are very good.

Thats it, and good luck! :D

(Keep in mind that I knew nothing about MAME until yesterday)

[JABBERJAW]

gbit, Did you like the game? Another one you might want to try is VAPOR TRX. that game got an 89 or 91 I think in egm2 in that very same issue. did you use a joystick to control your craft?

[Lion]

gbit did you get it running playably? I can't :\
every time it starts it says that seattle.snd needs redumping, and the game runs at like 1fps, looping sound all the while
-nosound doesn't help either.
turning off throttling helped considerably but it really seems like my 2.4GHz P4 just can't cope

[JABBERJAW]

Cousin had problems getting it to work, but not even playing. Has anyone got it running at a reasonable speed yet? I wouldn't think it would tax a decent speed computer since it looks only slight more advanced than say wipeout xl.

[gbit]

Well, I have tried it on 2 different PCs, and in both cases I get the 'seattle.snd needs redump' message, and after mame starts up, I get a plain, dark blue screen, so no dice for me either.

Oddly enough, mame lists the game as 'working', so may be there is an incompatibility due to the version of mame being used. Looking on some forums it would seem that these CHD files are for specific versions of mame.

I have been busy writing a java raytracer, so after the initial try I gave up and left it :).

BTW, the CHD file I downloaded was for mame version 0.96, so you may want to try running it with that version, since I tried the game in mame v0.97.

It would be nice if this thing had been released for the psx :) Then playing it on the PC would be no problem at all.

[Lion]

mirror of the old midway site: http://www.animbomb.com/hyperdrive/
looks like support was added to it properly in mame 0.84u2 and there's no further reference to it in the changelog.
I tried it in 0.85 (closest I could find) but it didn't work any better. looks like functioning but not playable is enough to get it off the game_not_working list
how do you know what version it was ripped for?
this sucks... the more I read about hyperdrive the more I wanna try it!

EDIT: I think I know what the story is here...
no guarantees, but this is my understanding of how it sits:
it looks like mame recognises the version of seattle.snd that we have, but it's known to be problematic, it's warning us that it needs a redump for this reason.
as to whether there's another version which is known-good? no idea, and I am not sure how to find out

[JABBERJAW]

Has anyone mailed the people who run the site for help?

[gbit]

Success!!

I got it working. At last :lol:

It turns out that the CHD file is dependent on the version of mame you are running. It was made for version 0.96, so will (probably) only run with that version.

Proof of it running: http://members.shaw.ca/agarach/hyperdriveScreen.JPG

I used Mame32 version 0.96 available at:
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/classicgaming/mame32qa/Mame32v.96_Binary.exe

I must say, though, that you will probably need a 3Ghz P4 with 1GB RAM to get this running at more than 2fps, which is what I'm getting on my brother's Athlon 1800+.

Good luck!

[edit]
Being able to 'play' the game (2fps can hardly be called play) jogged my memory. I have played this game before at the arcade, and I remember it being rather fun :).

[Lion]

I've managed to get as far as into a race in 0.95, 0.96, and 0.97. but personally I didn't count a framerate that low as "working" :(

[gbit]

Yep, it seems that mame is best suited to emulating lunar lander and various other 2d games, as opposed to the Voodoo2 powered 3d games such as san francisco rush and hyperdrive.

[G'Kyl]

It alway was. :) Emulation for games with 3D graphics is still in early stages, even programs emulating specific machines don't run at reasonable framerates yet, let alone accurate sound emulation.

Ben

[Lion]

I don't currently have a functioning linux box handy, but someone here must be able to try this in xmame, it has an opengl renderer that should be able to help
tempted to start an install on my old dual p3 1ghz rig just to try this out

[JABBERJAW]

Does anyone think a 3+ ghz computer with 1 gig of ram and a jacked up graphics card will run it correctly? Heck, it it can run playstation games, this isn't much more as far as pushing poly's around

[wipeoud]

Forget about hyperspeed i runned it 6 months ago after much trouble under mame.
It runs at 3fps even with all sort of tricks like render only every third frame.

Its unplayable.
ist not suported very good (got graphics errors) in mame in this stage maybe after 1 or 2 years it runs faster.

[JABBERJAW]

Well, people on that site have reviewed it, and it got a 65 %, so it must be working right somewhere. Hey, when you were going to buy that arcade cabinet, how much did it cost.

[wipeoud]

It was a half year ago maybe its now supoorted. But wasnt the review from the acade machine?

btw do you have link to the review for me?

edit by Lance: needless quote removed; read the guidelines, please

[flying_saucer]

pc stats;

2.4ghz, 1024mb ram ,128 mb nvidia 6600GT videocard.

[xEik]

Have you tried running the emulator or are you just posting your PC stats?
If it's the later, I fail to see the relevance of your post to this topic.
If it is the former, what were the results? A decent framerate, mayhap?