Thruster2097
18th May 2005, 11:32 PM
No matter where I look on the internet now, it is full of whiney-assed punk kids who think that "l33t" is a word. Damnit, I thought that leetspeak was invented, and immediatley killed off back in the eighties! Oh well....
Sifting through the piles of (ahem) reviews from the aforementioned whiney-assed punk kids, you would be easily led to believe that forza pwn's GT4. And to those of you who are over 12 years old, apparently Forza is better than GT4. No actual reasons why though, which is why I thought about starting this topic to find out everybody's opinion. I have got both forza and GT4, as well as a whole bunch of other driving games, two of them which I have to mention are Midnight Club 3 and NFSU2. I have to mention these because a large reason for buying forza has nothing to do with racing, more to do with pimping out your ride in the sassiest decals and paintjobs you can find. It's also a moderatley interesting race game, too, so I'm gonna divide this into two sections - forza modifying and forza racing.
Forza Modifying:
Out of the four games mentioned, forza doesnt have the amount of aftermarket parts for cars that NFSU or MC3DUB do, but it has the most powerful decal and vinyl application tool I have ever seen. Truly awesome and second to none, it allows you to actually customise your own design on the car, something unheard of to the NFSU faithful !
You have 100 layers of vinyl for the front, 100 for the back, 100 for the wing, 100 for the bonnet and roof, and a further 100 for each side of your car. 600 layers of vinyl stickers that you have full control of size, angle, pitch and colour. If you've got room, you can choose from some of the 5 pages of aftermarket tuning company logos to give your car the competitive feel.
I have already made a VXRacing VX220 out of vinyls which looks stunning and I intend to be keeping forza just for this feature.
Forza Racing:
Forza's weak point is its collision system with other cars, and car handling. It's so mind-numbingly bad I prefer to race time trials. I dont know if its just me, but I find the xbox controllers so twitchy, and also completley not progressive tike the PS2 pad. The accelerator, brake and steering almost behave like on-off switches, which is really poor considering all the working parts on the pad are either analog joysticks or progressive triggers. It should be smoother than a pint of baileys, it just so isn't. Control is better on the PS2's button style pad. Car collision system is shocking, the AI barely have to look at you and your car will be dancing toward the nearest wall.
Poor quality and intrusive HUD screen layout coupled with some of the worst tyre and environment noise do not make it a pleasurable experience. However, the in-car engine noise is a dramatic improvement to anything in GT4. At last, actual sound from inside a real car! It wasnt too much to ask for and finally it is here. The very clunky gear shift noise gets really annoying really quickly, but the engine noise is astonishing. The ferrari noise needs a bit of work, though.....
Overall, if youre into tricking out your ride, this is something you cant miss out on. However, if youre more concerned about actually getting a racing game for your money, look elsewhere.
There, I have had my bit, now let the ranting, raving and pwning take over.....
Sifting through the piles of (ahem) reviews from the aforementioned whiney-assed punk kids, you would be easily led to believe that forza pwn's GT4. And to those of you who are over 12 years old, apparently Forza is better than GT4. No actual reasons why though, which is why I thought about starting this topic to find out everybody's opinion. I have got both forza and GT4, as well as a whole bunch of other driving games, two of them which I have to mention are Midnight Club 3 and NFSU2. I have to mention these because a large reason for buying forza has nothing to do with racing, more to do with pimping out your ride in the sassiest decals and paintjobs you can find. It's also a moderatley interesting race game, too, so I'm gonna divide this into two sections - forza modifying and forza racing.
Forza Modifying:
Out of the four games mentioned, forza doesnt have the amount of aftermarket parts for cars that NFSU or MC3DUB do, but it has the most powerful decal and vinyl application tool I have ever seen. Truly awesome and second to none, it allows you to actually customise your own design on the car, something unheard of to the NFSU faithful !
You have 100 layers of vinyl for the front, 100 for the back, 100 for the wing, 100 for the bonnet and roof, and a further 100 for each side of your car. 600 layers of vinyl stickers that you have full control of size, angle, pitch and colour. If you've got room, you can choose from some of the 5 pages of aftermarket tuning company logos to give your car the competitive feel.
I have already made a VXRacing VX220 out of vinyls which looks stunning and I intend to be keeping forza just for this feature.
Forza Racing:
Forza's weak point is its collision system with other cars, and car handling. It's so mind-numbingly bad I prefer to race time trials. I dont know if its just me, but I find the xbox controllers so twitchy, and also completley not progressive tike the PS2 pad. The accelerator, brake and steering almost behave like on-off switches, which is really poor considering all the working parts on the pad are either analog joysticks or progressive triggers. It should be smoother than a pint of baileys, it just so isn't. Control is better on the PS2's button style pad. Car collision system is shocking, the AI barely have to look at you and your car will be dancing toward the nearest wall.
Poor quality and intrusive HUD screen layout coupled with some of the worst tyre and environment noise do not make it a pleasurable experience. However, the in-car engine noise is a dramatic improvement to anything in GT4. At last, actual sound from inside a real car! It wasnt too much to ask for and finally it is here. The very clunky gear shift noise gets really annoying really quickly, but the engine noise is astonishing. The ferrari noise needs a bit of work, though.....
Overall, if youre into tricking out your ride, this is something you cant miss out on. However, if youre more concerned about actually getting a racing game for your money, look elsewhere.
There, I have had my bit, now let the ranting, raving and pwning take over.....